Trump just handed Hillary the Presidency

Nah, I'm a $#@!ing idiot.

But even as an idiot with absolutely no political stroke I know in my heart of hearts that the Teflon on the Clinton's is thick enough to withstand limp wristed, half hearted empty threats.

Humility, a virtue that I have tried to but never been able to attain. You are selling yourself short when it comes to your ability to assess reality. This is a very vital ability but very few human beings possess it and something that is definitely absent in the vast majority of Trump supporters.

You would understand this when you wake up to tomorrow to see another half dozen members making posts that suggest that Hillary is in any danger of going to prison.
 
I don't consider Trump's hair.

Now this is "hideous"

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You don't consider Trump's hair to be? have less character than Trump supporters? more dead that Trump supporters? Please answer with sentences and not pictures or videos. :D
 
No it isn't. And if you have any common sense you know that.

Watch five of these videos before you try another ignorant response.

So, what black celebrities do you know of that were/are friends of trump? Jesse jackson? Mohammad Ali? Rosa Parks? Yup. trump was doing black charities in the 80's. Look it up. He's hired blacks, latinos, women.... shit, he has a record of being decidedly none of the things he is accused of. He also has, as I said, 9 years of a reality show, where he treats people on their performance, not gender or race.

I mean you can fall for the MSM narrative, or you can check the guy out.

He is Johnny effing America. And I never thought I would like johnny effing America, but once you understand him, its hard not to love the guy.

Especially watching him get shit on from every single angle in the WORLD. He just takes it, and it doesn't even phase him.


And its like I saw on MSNBC, white woman moderating, two black guys arguing: are the inner cities worse off than they have ever been? because Trump said the inner cities are terrible, they have never been worse, they are the worst they have ever been... typical trump style, just over the top, gross exaggerations.

So teh MSNBC lady fact checks him, tells him that he's wrong, that incomes blah blah blah 1980's blah blah blah... then the other black guy says Trump is an idiot and racist, because he doesn't want to acknowledge the successes of Obablah blah blah blah... So the third balck guy says they are the worst they've ever been, gets shouted down, eventually he explodes out, and says, "the facts dont matter" and oh boy, did Snopey-fact-checkin-anchorwoman and her black friend just laugh him up and down.

Now imagine, some people in the inner city, watching this, life is tough as nails. There are really shots ringing out. Your house does get robbed once a year. Your kids get in fights at least twice a year. Do you really think you give a flying f if life was actually worse in 1978?
 
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This has gone past the realm of funny and is now sad. I know it hasn't gotten THIS bad, but to me it might as well be.

RPF: We have emails Trump sent saying he was running to hedge his bets against the Clintons.

Trumpsters: That email was before Trump changed

RPF: We have an email of Trump saying that he will never change

Trumpsters: Trump doesn't write emails he is a billionare
 
So I'd suggest some serious introspection... ...why do some of you actually really hate trump?

I'm just me, one guy out here in the sticks, I can't speak for anybody else so the "some of you" part is out of my scope..

As for me, I don't hate Trump, nor do I love, respect or fawn over him.

Far as I'm concerned he's just another dishonest, blowhard politician.

I do think he'd probably be better for my part of the country than Hitlery but he certainly doesn't inspire me enough to vote for him.
 
I guarantee you there is no "Grab her by the pussy" tape for Rand. Nor would Rand have stupidly attacked a gold star family and gotten a bunch of completely dumbass supporters (some of them here) to join in with the attack. (Seriously I am ashamed to be associated with anybody stupid enough to think that somehow being a immigration lawyer disqualified a Muslim who's son died in Buish's stupid war for speaking out against the idea that Muslims as a whole should be banned from coming to this country. For one thing a Muslim immigration lawyer would actually stand to make millions from Trump's new "extreme vetting" program. For another, no matter how bad the IRA got, Britain never banned Catholics.) Also Rand has made genuine outreach to the African American community so, unlike Trump, he's not pointing to a token in the crowd and saying "There is my African American supporter." Trump's right in that Hillary has done nothing to earn the black vote. Neither has he. It's a wash. Rand would have made decriminalization of marijuana a campaign issue and won over a lot of Bernie Sanders voters. Rand wouldn't have had to argue with debate moderators over whether or not he was "always against the Iraq war." Rand's also been vetted. The enemy brought out their best guns against Rand, AquaBuddha, the Civil Rights Act etc, and it didn't take. If they could have taken Rand out with a prostitute rumor don't you think they would have done it already? The worst rumor against Trump, that he raped an underage girl just like Bill Clinton allegedly did, hasn't even been given serious air time yet.

I appreciate your support of Rand, and truly wish he was still running. But my larger point had nothing to do with Rand. My point is about a mainstream media that is fully in the tank for Hillary. A media that will lie, cheat, smear, manipulate, black-out, cover-up and do anything they need to push their favored candidates, in this case, Hillary.

As I said, Johnson was effectively eliminated with two simple gotcha questions. Howard Dean was taken out with a simple "yeeeehaaa" clip. My point is about the media and standard election and campaign tricks.
 
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WTF is with the salacious adulation?

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Get a room already!

Double puke.

Alpha male? Trump is a smack talking juvenile. He'd get his ass kicked if he tried his insults on the street. He's been protected his whole life.
 
I might have thought he was a stooge in the beginning.

But he has been saying so many things, and so many times, that takes on Hillary corruption.

If you hate Info Wars, please ignore the intro but please watch the 6 minute or so Trump segment.

That's speaking some truth that I haven't heard anyone other than Ron speak at this level. In many ways he delivers the message in a way that Boobus Americanus can understand better than Ron himself ever could.

I have never been a lesser of two evil voter. There is much about Trump that I find repellent. And I am still concerned with his past association with the Clintons and also Wikileaks revelation that the DNC pumped his campaign. So I'm not sure what I'll do on election day.

 
This has gone past the realm of funny and is now sad. I know it hasn't gotten THIS bad, but to me it might as well be.

that is because you still don't understand him.

You know, trump told his supporters, when he first started, and the media was saying he had no chance, he said, "we're gonna win, we're gonna win more than anybody has ever won, we are gonna win so hard your face is going to hurt from smiling from winning so much, and then you are going to ask me to stop winning, because we are winning so much it is starting to hurt, and I'll say no, we aren't done winning"

If he had failed to clinch the republican nomination, then, sure... ...he sucks.

But he delivered, didn't he?

Trump is not in this for the Clintons, by the way. He does nothing for anybody but himself. He thinks he can be the best president ever. He might be right. I am not doubting him at this moment. I am very impressed with the way he handled the media. it is simply unbelievable to me.
 
Double puke.

Alpha male? Trump is a smack talking juvenile. He'd get his ass kicked if he tried his insults on the street. He's been protected his whole life.

YOu think he is a naive simpleton? Is being an alpha male about being the best fighter? Are you an alpha male, and able to define what an alpha male is?
 
YOu think he is a naive simpleton? Is being an alpha male about being the best fighter? Are you an alpha male, and able to define what an alpha male is?

Are all juveniles "naive simpletons"? I didn't say he was stupid. Maybe you can tell us all what an "alpha male" is since you are the expert? Is it someone who insults people all the time? Is it someone who is so insecure he has to keep talking about how great he is all day? Is it someone who is easily distracted and suckered by opposition set-ups that he can't stop talking about them?

He's a used car salesman, a huckster. A guy who thinks the person with the best personal put-downs of others is somehow more qualified at something other than being a dick.
 
Are all juveniles "naive simpletons"? I didn't say he was stupid. Maybe you can tell us all what an "alpha male" is since you are the expert? Is it someone who insults people all the time?
Absolutely. Every single time trump has insulted somebody, back up the tape... ..and see who did the insulting first. Never take shit form nobody.
Is it someone who is so insecure he has to keep talking about how great he is all day?

But he is. He is the real deal. he is a winner, and he gets things done. He does the impossible. For example, he actually hijacked the GOP with like $450,000, while Jeb shelled out $200M alone. You say he is saying it from insecurity. Nope. He says it, because it is true.

Is it someone who is easily distracted and suckered by opposition set-ups that he can't stop talking about them?

Aww, a weighted question. Chill.

He's a used car salesman, a huckster. A guy who thinks the person with the best personal put-downs of others is somehow more qualified at something other than being a dick.

Rand Paul insulted him first. And Honestly, him saying there is plenty he could insult Rand Paul about was pretty nice. It was a check. You don't let people score hits on you by putting you down. You get them back, hopefully with a dash of jest.

I know many of you have felt my wrath. I rarely insult, (except Zippy cuz I hate him), unless someone says I am whining or some garbage like that. But you don't let somebody insult you to raise their status in a debate or performance.

And he is not a used car sales man. He is a real estate mogul that started with $1 M and a college degree from a military academy.

Now, what is an alpha male?

An alpha male commands respect with his presence. He is a social genius. Women love him because he is genuine, and fun. He isn't trying to sell anything. He is trying to give to everything around him.

I am not having this conversation to convince you trump is God, (although I am starting to wonder),I am just trying to get you guys to analyze your hate, so you can see how illogical it actually is. Because what I am reading is usually just either shock, or envy.
 
I guess you forgot about the Ron Paul newsletters. They were used against Ron in both campaigns.

And to what effect? None really. They didn't cause Ron a drop in the polls. Ron lost because the main thing he was known for, being against the war in Iraq, was an anathema to most republican voters. Remember in 2008 that 70% of GOP voters believed with Sarah Palin the ridiculous conspiracy theory that Saddam Hussein was involved in 911. That number had dropped off somewhat by 2012 but by that point idiot Republicans had firmly identified Ron Paul as "liberal" because he was against the war. Some Republicans are so stupid that they haven't figured out yet irony of voting for Trump, who claims (somewhat falsely) to have always been against the Iraq war. Hell, I heard one moronic talk show host who supports Trump still ranting against the Dixie Chicks and saying "They wouldn't be welcome at a Trump rally" when they got in trouble for taking the position that Trump only pretends to take now that it's popular. (The Iraq war was a mistake and George W. Bush is an embarrassment.) Really, I never met a single Republican who said "Gee....I like Ron Paul despite his position on the Iraq war.....but those newsletters make him look racist so I can't vote for him." In fact by 2012 the black democrats that I knew that were bothered by the newsletters got over it.

Again, think through your analysis. It doesn't matter whether or not something gets used. It only matters if it has an effect. Bringing up the newsletters against Paul had no appreciable effect. Bringing up Clinton's womanizing at this point has no measurable effect. If Aquabuddha or the Civil Rights Act was brought up against Rand at this point it would have no measurable effect. Don't you think his democratic opponent in Kentucky right now would be using either issue if it had the possibility of helping him win?
 
I appreciate your support of Rand, and truly wish he was still running. But my larger point had nothing to do with Rand. My point is about a mainstream media that is fully in the tank for Hillary. A media that will lie, cheat, smear, manipulate, black-out, cover-up and do anything they need to push their favored candidates, in this case, Hillary.

Oh sure the MSM is supporting Hillary. But it wouldn't matter if Trump was a halfway decent candidate. Hell, I'm not the one saying it. This week I have heard conservative talk show host after conservative talk show host say "Please vote for Trump. But I don't know why Trump keeps shooting himself in the foot." Even LibertyEagle has on this forum stated that Trump is not a good debater. Well....what the hell happened? He went through like a dozen GOP debates and continuously rose in the polls. Of course that was a different audience and all he had to say was "We're being invaded by Mexico and there are rapists and murders among the invaders so build a wall and make Mexico pay for it." But still, I heard over and over again that Trump was the one to take the fight to Hillary. Well he's 1-1-1, 1 loss (bad), 1 win, 1 draw.

If a republican candidate has to wait on the media to be "fair" in order to win then why the hell are we even involved in politics at all?

As I said, Johnson was effectively eliminated with two simple gotcha questions. Howard Dean was taken out with a simple "yeeeehaaa" clip. My point is about the media and standard election and campaign tricks.

In my book Gary Johnson was eliminated by saying a Jewish baker should have to bake a Nazi cake because....religious freedom. The Alepo question gave Gary Johnson some much needed publicity. Seriously in most years the libertarian candidate doesn't even get mentioned.
 
Snopes

, seriously someone is quoting that left wing site here?



Yeah snopes sucks. Hillary sucks. But that video you posted isn't about Hillary. Why make up stuff to go after Hillary when you have obvious stuff like the fact that she is trying for World War 3 with Russia?
 
But he is. He is the real deal. he is a winner, and he gets things done. He does the impossible. For example, he actually hijacked the GOP with like $450,000, while Jeb shelled out $200M alone. You say he is saying it from insecurity. Nope. He says it, because it is true.

A victory aided by the media, as confirmed by leaked emails.

Rand Paul insulted him first. And Honestly, him saying there is plenty he could insult Rand Paul about was pretty nice. It was a check. You don't let people score hits on you by putting you down. You get them back, hopefully with a dash of jest.

Trump did hit Rand with an underhanded insult. Sure Rand made a mistake by coming out too eagerly with a couple of interruptions at the first debate, but If you love Trump for that, you should be happy that Rand gave it a try. Tim Kaine did it a lot at his one and only debate, and no one liked it.

Now, what is an alpha male?

An alpha male commands respect with his presence. He is a social genius. Women love him because he is genuine, and fun. He isn't trying to sell anything. He is trying to give to everything around him.

I am not having this conversation to convince you trump is God, (although I am starting to wonder),I am just trying to get you guys to analyze your hate, so you can see how illogical it actually is. Because what I am reading is usually just either shock, or envy.

Now you have gone completely off the rails. If your believe all that, then Trump has a bridge to sell you.

The vast majority of people see this as a lesser of evils election, not Satan vs. Jesus. Anyone who has thinks Hillary or Trump are their saviors are in for a rude awakening.
 
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