Trump : "I will doxx Epstein Client list if I'm elected"

[spudea]

And we're supposed to be impressed that the prosecutors didn't do their jobs and ask the questions?

You have to have victims that come forward and name names. Without that, you have nothing. The Epstein "list" has already been released; it is the flight logs to Epstein Island. If you want to call everyone on that list a pedo, go for it, but to do so without more evidence of crimes, that is also corrupt. I'm sure Epstein hosted many people on the island that he didn't bring into his sex trafficking crimes.

 

[acptulsa]

You have to have victims that come forward and name names.

Where you fell down is, you refused to listen to them, even after Hillary suicided them.

When I say refused, I'm saying you missed out because you come here intent on being arrogant, insulting people, and playing (and failing) gotcha games, instead of even considering looking around and learning something.

 

[otherone]

You have to have victims that come forward and name names.

Not really.

 

[vita3]

 

[spudea]

that was a batch of documents that was released in February which included the epstein flight logs.

 

[spudea]

So who did Ghislaine Maxwell traffic children to, if there is no list of clients?

Ghislaine Maxwell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

she was convicted of trafficking children to Epstein. The victims in her trial only testified to being abused by Epstein and Maxwell. The Epstein "list" is the flight logs to the island which has already been released. Unless the DOJ has credible victims coming forward, you want our government going on a wild goose chase / fishing expedition against everyone on the list? Sounds very authoritarian.

 

[acptulsa]

Sounds very authoritarian.

More gotcha games?

The first and nearly only use libertarians have for government is to prevent and punish violations of the non-aggression principle. Are you saying you don't consider sexual predators victimizing children to be aggression, or that you don't think we should consider it aggression?

What the actual fuck, dude? Do you waste all this time arrogantly trying to troll us because your neighbors have had enough of you to micromismanaging their lives?

I genuinely would like to know what your major malfunction is. Do people with sound principles just piss you off?

 

[ClaytonB]

she was convicted of trafficking children to Epstein. The victims in her trial only testified to being abused by Epstein and Maxwell. The Epstein "list" is the flight logs to the island which has already been released. Unless the DOJ has credible victims coming forward, you want our government going on a wild goose chase / fishing expedition against everyone on the list? Sounds very authoritarian.

Well, it's almost 20 years too late, now, but yeah, the network of people connected to Epstein should have been investigated to the hilt, way back in 2008 when he was FIRST arrested, tried and convicted of crimes involving children. But precisely because those are some of the richest and most powerful people in the US, squat was done about it and the whole thing was basically swept under the rug, where it would have stayed if Epstein hadn't made a nuisance of himself by keeping up the kid-diddling as though nothing happened in 2008. There is no "other side" of this issue. If the Epstein story is "boring", then this country does not deserve to exist. If justice for children being raped (and God only knows what else) is of no interest to the US Government because it's "too boring", then the US Government does not need to exist; it should be abolished and replaced, just as our Founders wrote in the Declaration.

 

[PAF]

then the US Government does not need to exist; it should be abolished and replaced, just as our Founders wrote in the Declaration.

You had me until you said "replaced".

I won't even ask "replaced with what?".

That's like abolish and replace with the republican version of healthcare.

 

[ClaytonB]

You had me until you said "replaced".

I won't even ask "replaced with what?".

That's like abolish and replace with the republican version of healthcare.

"... whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

"Institute new Government" can also mean no government if that is what seems to WTP most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Which is exactly what Thoreau said in Civil Disobedience:

I heartily accept the motto,—“That government is best which governs
least;” and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and
systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I
believe—“That government is best which governs not at all;” and when
men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they
will have. Government is at best but an expedient; but most governments
are usually, and all governments are sometimes, inexpedient. (Emphasis added)

 

[PAF]

"... whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

"Institute new Government" can also mean no government if that is what seems to WTP most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Which is exactly what Thoreau said in Civil Disobedience:

I've got news for you. And I'll save you further read. It ain't gonna happen.

Well, not by people, anyway.

 

[mtr1979]

Everyone on this thread is running in circles. There is a list out already it has been out for a while. Ryan Dawson has done the research. Ryan has made t-shirts with the list of names. He has also mapped it out and explained the reason these people's names are on the list. He has also done podcasts that are hours long talking about each person on the list, but people don't want to hear the names because they are names of faceless billionaires and hedge fund managers. People will only care if a famous actor or sports ball player is on the list.

It is only a matter of time before some big name reporter steals all of Ryan's work and passes it off as their own.

It is pretty sad that people are waiting for the government's official list to come out. The list is already out, but I guess some people need government's stamp of approval.

 

[PAF]

Everyone on this thread is running in circles. There is a list out already it has been out for a while. Ryan Dawson has done the research. Ryan has made t-shirts with the list of names. He has also mapped it out and explained the reason these people's names are on the list. He has also done podcasts that are hours long talking about each person on the list, but people don't want to hear the names because they are names of faceless billionaires and hedge fund managers. People will only care if a famous actor or sports ball player is on the list.

It is only a matter of time before some big name reporter steals all of Ryan's work and passes it off as their own.

It is pretty sad that people are waiting for the government's official list to come out. The list is already out, but I guess some people need government's stamp of approval.

So does Whitney Webb - in hard copy. But nobody wants to buy it.

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[Anti Globalist]

They're trying to Mandela Effect the blackmail lists. Make it seem like it's a false memory we all have.

 

[ClaytonB]

I've got news for you. And I'll save you further read. It ain't gonna happen.

Well, not by people, anyway.

No news for me. I'm anti-State and a theocratic monarchist (only Jesus is Lord and King). All human governments will be destroyed and God's Kingdom is going to be instituted on earth, just as real as the DMV (but obviously not unpleasant, cruel and unjust like the DMV) -- Psalm 2, etc.

 

[Anti Federalist]

she was convicted of trafficking children to Epstein. The victims in her trial only testified to being abused by Epstein and Maxwell. The Epstein "list" is the flight logs to the island which has already been released. Unless the DOJ has credible victims coming forward, you want our government going on a wild goose chase / fishing expedition against everyone on the list? Sounds very authoritarian.

From wiki:

Maxwell faced persistent allegations of procuring and sexually trafficking underage girls for Epstein and others

But okay, it's clear the marching orders have come down, Epstein never happened and Israel is our greatest ally and we're not going to learn anything more about that.

Let's move on...about that gold in Fort Knox now...or maybe holding Fauci accountable before Trump PAC starts running ads against Rand to primary him like they are doing to Massie.

 

[Invisible Man]

You have to have victims that come forward and name names.

That's correct. That list of names that victims have named is what we want released. Don't you?

Why doesn't the Trump administration?

Keeping those names secret is a serious issue in itself, which is why this is a big deal.

 

[ClaytonB]

They're trying to Mandela Effect the blackmail lists. Make it seem like it's a false memory we all have.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Lets be honest with ourselves. Even if they released the names of all of Epstein's clients, nothing would change. No arrests, no prosecutions, no public execution of the guilty. Would they be completely and utterly embarrassed? Yes, but at the end of the day they'll still be ruling over us.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Lets be honest with ourselves. Even if they released the names of all of Epstein's clients, nothing would change. No arrests, no prosecutions, no public execution of the guilty. Would they be completely and utterly embarrassed? Yes, but at the end of the day they'll still be ruling over us.

And to that, I got nothing more to add, other than to say they would not be in the slightest bit embarrassed.

"Yeah, I raped and diddled kids.

Why?

Fuck you, that's why!"