Trump : "I will doxx Epstein Client list if I'm elected"

[otherone]

A delusional take I saw someone post on social media:

I have an alternative to this. And hear me out because in my conspiracy theorist head, this is exactly what I would do to ensure successful prosecution and imprisonment. Let's just say, for the sake of debate, they, in fact, have the client list. They put this current story out so, behind the scenes, they can get all their ducks in a row in the legal sense. Build an ironclad case, as it were. No loopholes, no technicalities. They lull the people on the list into a false sense of security, releasing this very statement. They create a holding facility (i.e. Alligator Alcatraz). The State Department then quietly revokes the passports of all parties involved so they cannot flee to a non-extradition country. Then all at once, in a massive, coordinated operation, they arrest the people on the list. I wouldn't put it past Trump to do this. They have already established they are capable of subterfuge with the bombing of Iran. Not out of the realm of possibility that they could, in fact, be doing this very thing. Not saying they are. Simply coming up with an alternate explanation. And I would be screaming at the top of my lungs in joyous triumph if this was the case.

Yeah. 4D chess. They literally have Maxwell. If they wanted to pursue this, they would, with or without a "list".

 

[nikcers]

Yeah. 4D chess. They literally have Maxwell. If they wanted to pursue this, they would, with or without a "list".

They did go after higher profile Epstein clients though.

Some were even connected to the crown in the UK.

They had to pony up royalties to some of the victims and one died recently.

The real problem with putting the blame on the crown here is that powerful state enemies of the crown have every incentive to go after people like that and frame the crown.

The other problem is if there is evidence that it was the crown that doesn't necessarily mean its rational to try to subvert the government in the UK over such a thing.

If the UK government overthrows the crown that doesn't necessarily mean that whatever regime takes their place will be friendly with the United States.

When Germany overthrew their King we got Hitler.

So you always have to put your national security interests first.

 

[otherone]

They did go after higher profile Epstein clients though.

Some were even connected to the crown in the UK.

They had to pony up royalties to some of the victims and one died recently.

The real problem with putting the blame on the crown here is that powerful state enemies of the crown have every incentive to go after people like that and frame the crown.

The other problem is if there is evidence that it was the crown that doesn't necessarily mean its rational to try to subvert the government in the UK over such a thing.

If the UK government overthrows the crown that doesn't necessarily mean that whatever regime takes their place will be friendly with the United States.

When Germany overthrew their King we got Hitler.

So you always have to put your national security interests first.

"The government is smarter than us and has our best interests at heart."

 

[nikcers]

"The government is smarter than us and has our best interests at heart."

Survivability is in everyone's interests even our "government".

You should listen to the way John Kiriakou talks about being against torture in one breath but in the next he talks about breaking into a foreign government officials house and threatening their kid so they don't betray the United States and stab us in the back.

 

[otherone]

Survivability is in everyone's interests even our "government".

You should listen to the way John Kiriakou talks about being against torture in one breath but in the next he talks about breaking into a foreign government officials house and threatens their kid so they don't betray the United States and stab us in the back.

Transparency is in everyone's best interest. The MFer RAN on the Epstein list. HE made it a campaign issue.

 

[nikcers]

Transparency is in everyone's best interest. The MFer RAN on the Epstein list. HE made it a campaign issue.

Changing the balance of power in the globe for the sake of transparency could quite literally result in every single one of us dying.

Whats more important to you?

Surviving or knowing the truth?

If you kill the king you have to become the king. Whatever else that fills that power vacuum isn't going to be any nicer to the powerless.

 

[otherone]

Changing the balance of power in the globe for the sake of transparency could quite literally result in every single one of us dying.

Whats more important to you?

Surviving or knowing the truth?

If you kill the king you have to become the king. Whatever else that fills that power vacuum isn't going to be any nicer to the powerless.

So....You're opining that...if the Epstein clientele becomes public....that every single one of us is...dying?

 

[nikcers]

So....You're opining that...if the Epstein clientele becomes public....that every single one of us is...dying?

If the balance of power tips against us it carries that risk.

Right now we aren't dying in a war because we are powerful and the world has a balance of power.

Like I said earlier look at Germany for an example.

They overthrew their king and that didnt stop Hitler that created Hitler.

The only thing that stopped it was 2 generations of foreign occupation where we essentially filled the power vacuum.

Now multiply that by 20. There are 20 powerful countries that control the balance of power in the world.

Every single one of those countries have their corruption and just one of them going to war can take 10 trillion dollars out of the global economy.

 

[otherone]

If the balance of power tips against us it carries that risk.

Right now we aren't dying in a war because we are powerful and the world has a balance of power.

Like I said earlier look at Germany for an example.

They overthrew their king and that didnt stop Hitler that created Hitler.

The only thing that stopped it was 2 generations of foreign occupation where we essentially filled the power vacuum.

Now multiply that by 20. There are 20 powerful countries that control the balance of power in the world.

Every single one of those countries have their corruption and just one of them going to war can take 10 trillion dollars out of the global economy.

"The government is smarter than us and has our best interests at heart."

This is getting circular.

 

[ClaytonB]

"The government is smarter than us and has our best interests at heart."

 

[nikcers]

"The government is smarter than us and has our best interests at heart."

This is getting circular.

Maybe you are interested in holding every powerful person in the world to account for their corruption and when you become president of the world you can do that.

You can either be president of the United States or president of the world though.

You can't serve two masters.

 

[otherone]

Maybe you are interested in holding every powerful person in the world to account for their corruption and when you become president of the world you can do that.

You can either be president of the United States or president of the world though.

You can't serve two masters.

"The government is smarter than us and has our best interests at heart."

 

[nikcers]

"The government is smarter than us and has our best interests at heart."

I don't believe our government is a separate part of our civilization.

Whether or not we elect the best people to represent our interests is our fault. I think we get the government we deserve.

 

[otherone]

I don't believe our government is a separate part of our civilization.

Whether or not we elect the best people to represent our interests is our fault. I think we get the government we deserve.

Now there's a black-pill. Welcome to team anarchy.

 

[nikcers]

Now there's a black-pill. Welcome to team anarchy.

I don't think anarchy works in the real world. Its just a placeholder we use like the number zero when a civilization doesnt exist.

In the real world if you overthrow the king a lot of times you just get Hitler. Sometimes you get the Taliban. Other times you get Putin.

Only rarely do you get Thomas Jefferson.

 

[otherone]

I don't think anarchy works in the real world. Its just a placeholder we use like the number zero when a civilization doesnt exist.

In the real world if you overthrow the king a lot of times you just get Hitler. Sometimes you get the Taliban. Other times you get Putin.

Only rarely do you get Thomas Jefferson.

Practicality does not equal morality.

 

[nikcers]

Practicality does not equal morality.

Morality always comes from the state. It doesnt exist when the law is the jungle.

 

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[unknown]

Morality always comes from the state. It doesnt exist when the law is the jungle.

Correct, it is the law of the jungle.

Our government, having been hijacked by Izrael:

1. Openly overthrows other governments.

2. Installs dictators.

3. Pre-emptively attacks, bombs and occupies sovereign nations.

4. Funds and arms designated terrorist organizations.

5. Has engaged in crimes against humanity as specified by the Geneva Conventions via the Nuremberg Trials which sought to prosecute the Nazis.

Our CIA has done everything from deal drugs to experiment on the American people via projects like MK Ultra and Operation LAC.

They even maintain a citizen KILL list, the Disposition Matrix, having given themselves the power to kill US citizens, at will, without any 4th Amendment due process protections...

The list is endless.

One of the few times you've told the truth.

We have in place, a hijacked, rogue, criminal government, which operates FAR outside the rule of law (the Constitution) and has instead embraced the law of the jungle.

 

[nikcers]

It is the law of the jungle.

Our government, having been hijacked by Izrael:

1. Openly overthrows governments.

2. Installs dictators.

3. Pre-emptively attacks, bombs and occupies sovereign nations.

4. Funds and arms designated terrorist organizations.

5. Has engaged in crimes against humanity as specified by the Geneva Conventions via the Nuremberg Trials which sought to prosecute the Nazis.

Our CIA has done everything from deal drugs to experiment on the American people via projects like MK Ultra and Operation LAC.

They even maintain a citizen KILL list, the Disposition Matrix, having given themselves the power to kill US citizens, at will, without any 4th Amendment due process protections...

The list is endless.

One of the few times you've told the truth.

We have in place, a hijacked, rogue, criminal government, which operates FAR outside the rule of law (the Constitution) and has instead embraced the law of the jungle.

If it was the law of the jungle you simply wouldn't have any way of knowing any of this.

We have freedom of information though and our family which we consider the union that is the United States always comes first.

What we do to survive as a people sometimes carrys a cost.

Thats why the USA has reached a point where we have the breakthrough technologies that give us limitless energy potential and the abundance to breakaway from the globalization of the past century and make a breakaway civilization in the new world order.