TRUMP FOUND GUILTY ON 34 FELONY CHARGES

susano said:
How can you can not see exactly where the establishment is?
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Ever study history? It's an absolute fact that, once totalitarianism regimes take power, they shoot their best useful idiots first. They're no longer useful, they're malcontents, and they're still idiots.

They don't care about party, but they want you to. They want to piss conservatives off enough to get these self-styled protectors of the Constitution to throw it away.

What have they cast in stone? Why are you acting like nothing can ever change? This is an abusive relationship, and one of the hallmarks of those us the abused bounces in and out if favor constantly, and seemingly randomly.

Come on. There aren't two deep states and a psyop is a con game. Nothing static about it. You're looking to see where you stand, and abusers are looking to ensure you never know.
 
acptulsa said:
Ever study history? It's an absolute fact that, once totalitarianism regimes take power, they shoot their best useful idiots first. They're no longer useful, they're malcontents, and they're still idiots.

They don't care about party, but they want you to. They want to piss conservatives off enough to get these self-styled protectors of the Constitution to throw it away.

What have they cast in stone? Why are you acting like nothing can ever change? This is an abusive relationship, and one of the hallmarks of those us the abused bounces in and out if favor constantly, and seemingly randomly.

Come on. There aren't two deep states and a psyop is a con game. Nothing static about it. You're looking to see where you stand, and abusers are looking to ensure you never know.
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Okay, but why do you think they want or need Trump in office when they'already created near totalitarian rule and ignore the constitution? They don't need to install a Trump to get there.
 
DamianTV said:
If a state wants to pass a law as far as who is eligible and who isnt, Im fairly certain that power is delegated to the States, not at a Federal level. Quite possible I am wrong but if it is done at a State level, we know exactly why they had to push the Felony Guilty charge through as fast as possible! Please correct me if I am wrong tho...
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The Constitution defines eligibility for POTUS, that means no state can.
 
susano said:
Okay, but why do you think they want or need Trump in office when they'already created near totalitarian rule and ignore the constitution? They don't need to install a Trump to get there.
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Oh, my.

No, they're still restrained. Are they still going to the trouble and expense to fix elections? Could they force that Jab on everyone?

When it comes to power, sociopaths don't know the meaning of the word enough.
 
acptulsa said:
Oh, my.

No, they're still restrained. Are they still going to the trouble and expense to fix elections? Could they force that Jab on everyone?

When it comes to power, sociopaths don't know the meaning of the word enough.
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It would gain them nothing to put Trump in.
 
jmdrake said:
I'm independent. [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] and [MENTION=10908]dannno[/MENTION] will tell you I'm the about as far from a Trumpkin as one can get. And this BS verdict would make me MORE likely to support him, not less, if I felt I had to choose between the "lesser of two evils." This was legal assassination pure and simple.
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I totally agree. Trump was a terrible president, only slightly less terrible than Biden and Obama. The federal government doubled in size under his watch. A lot of the price inflation we're seeing now is from the spending, borrowing and printing during Trump's term.

But this is so obviously a fake, show trial. I don't see how anyone on this forum could disagree. Even if you ignore the fact that these trials are all made up charges, what are the odds that Trump gets charged with all these things, most of them from many years ago, right before the election??? It's mathematically impossible to be a coincidence.

To me the idea of jailing your political opposition is much wore than anything Trump has done.
 
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susano said:
BLM & Antifa rioted all summer of 2020. Left wing prosecutors, mayors, governors, lawyers organizations, all covered for them. The fraudulently raked in hundreds of millions of dollars which went straight into the pockets of a few and nobody has been prosecuted. Prior to that, there were numerous violent attacks at speaking engagements on campuses. No prosecutions. For several years violent criminals have been let go without being prosecuted. January 6th rioters? Over 1000 in jail or prison. Old lady abortion protesters, in jail. How can you can not see exactly where the establishment is?
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I've been wondering about something similar. The commonly held theory here is that the deep state is in control and they hate trump because he's an outsider. Maybe it's more of a republican/democrat thing, not insider/outsider? Maybe they hate trump because he's a republican that is favored to win? The media hated bush and he seemed pretty "insider/deep stateish" to me. And they loved obama and biden. My guess is the media and deep state will hate the next republican favored to win, no matter what. I think the truth is probably a combination of both. The deep state and media both like the status quo and the left.
 
Madison320 said:
I totally agree. Trump was a terrible president, only slightly less terrible than Biden and Obama. The federal government doubled in size under his watch. A lot of the price inflation we're seeing now is from the spending, borrowing and printing during Trump's term.

But this is so obviously a fake, show trial. I don't see how anyone on this forum could disagree. Even if you ignore the fact that these trials are all made up charges, what are the odds that Trump gets charged with all these things, most of them from many years ago, right before the election??? It's mathematically impossible to be a coincidence.

To me the idea of jailing your political opposition is much wore than anything Trump has done.
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THIS
 
Madison320 said:
I've been wondering about something similar. The commonly held theory here is that the deep state is in control and they hate trump because he's an outsider. Maybe it's more of a republican/democrat thing, not insider/outsider? Maybe they hate trump because he's a republican that is favored to win? The media hated bush and he seemed pretty "insider/deep stateish" to me. And they loved obama and biden. My guess is the media and deep state will hate the next republican favored to win, no matter what. I think the truth is probably a combination of both. The deep state and media both like the status quo and the left.
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At the minion level, it is partisan. At the higher levels, they hate Trump because, although he's stupid and able to be manipulated, he's not inclined to cede US sovereignty to international bodies or go along with Agenda 2030. Pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord really pissed them off because that's both a money make for them and THE way to transfer wealth out of US. Trump knows the US can't run on windmills and solar panels and is into fossil fuels. That's in direct opposition to Agenda 2030 and sending us into the stone age which is their goal.
 
susano said:
At the minion level, it is partisan. At the higher levels, they hate Trump because, although he's stupid and able to be manipulated, he's not inclined to cede US sovereignty to international bodies or go along with Agenda 2030. Pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord really pissed them off because that's both a money make for them and THE way to transfer wealth out of US. Trump knows the US can't run on windmills and solar panels and is into fossil fuels. That's in direct opposition to Agenda 2030 and sending us into the stone age which is their goal.
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Yep, America First, or even the illusion of it, is not acceptable
 
Madison320 said:
I've been wondering about something similar. The commonly held theory here is that the deep state is in control and they hate trump because he's an outsider. Maybe it's more of a republican/democrat thing, not insider/outsider? Maybe they hate trump because he's a republican that is favored to win? The media hated bush and he seemed pretty "insider/deep stateish" to me. And they loved obama and biden. My guess is the media and deep state will hate the next republican favored to win, no matter what. I think the truth is probably a combination of both. The deep state and media both like the status quo and the left.
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I think Trump's ego is a liability for the deep state.

For example, he has the audacity to think that being commander-in-chief means he is supposed to be the commander. He doesn't know that he's just supposed to eat ice cream, mumble incoherently, and sign off on whatever the Pentagon puts on his desk. I would say that having a president who actually has final say over the military ended shortly after Eisenhower's presidency. He was probably the last commander-in-chief.

Of course, Trump's ego is as much a liability for those who support him as well, as he seems to have a serious issue with taking advice from people who want him to be successful. And he doesn't take constructive criticism well, as evidenced by his spat with Thomas Massie, which boiled over into threatening his seat. (thankfully that's up to the people of Kentucky, not Trump)

And he still won't admit that Warp Speed was a mistake, because that would be a sign of weakness (in his eyes).
 
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nobody's_hero said:
I think Trump's ego is a liability for the deep state.

For example, he has the audacity to think that being commander-in-chief means he is supposed to be the commander. He doesn't know that he's just supposed to eat ice cream, mumble incoherently, and sign off on whatever the Pentagon puts on his desk. I would say that having a president who actually has final say over the military ended shortly after Eisenhower's presidency. He was probably the last commander-in-chief.

Of course, Trump's ego is as much a liability for those who support him as well, as he seems to have a serious issue with taking advice from people who want him to be successful. And he doesn't take constructive criticism well, as evidenced by his spat with Thomas Massie, which boiled over into threatening his seat. (thankfully that's up to the people of Kentucky, not Trump)

And he still won't admit that Warp Speed was a mistake, because that would be a sign of weakness (in his eyes).
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I think trump's biggest weakness is he wants to be popular so he won't do the most important thing, and that's to cut the size of government.
 
susano said:
At the minion level, it is partisan. At the higher levels, they hate Trump because, although he's stupid and able to be manipulated, he's not inclined to cede US sovereignty to international bodies or go along with Agenda 2030. Pulling the US out of the Paris Climate Accord really pissed them off because that's both a money make for them and THE way to transfer wealth out of US. Trump knows the US can't run on windmills and solar panels and is into fossil fuels. That's in direct opposition to Agenda 2030 and sending us into the stone age which is their goal.
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I agree with most of that except I don't think the people at the highest levels of government want to send us to the stone age. At least not on purpose. I think they want what everybody wants. Lots of money and a cushy lifestyle. And so they want to stay in power and the best way to stay in power is to keep the economy intact. The problem is they want short term solutions to keep the economy going. Which means spending, borrowing and printing which will ultimately lead to hyperinflation, which is the end game that they don't want.
 
Madison320 said:
I think trump's biggest weakness is he wants to be popular so he won't do the most important thing, and that's to cut the size of government.
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Very much! He craves approval and he craves it from those who hate his guts. Definitely daddy issues.
 
Madison320 said:
I agree with most of that except I don't think the people at the highest levels of government want to send us to the stone age. At least not on purpose. I think they want what everybody wants. Lots of money and a cushy lifestyle. And so they want to stay in power and the best way to stay in power is to keep the economy intact. The problem is they want short term solutions to keep the economy going. Which means spending, borrowing and printing which will ultimately lead to hyperinflation, which is the end game that they don't want.
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What about blowing up all of the coal plants? They DO want Agenda 2030 and they can't possibly be stupid enough to not know it would destroy civilization.
 
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