Trump forcing activation of 2A by defying Supreme Court

[Brian4Liberty]

The Trump Administration said he was scheduled to be deported but a judge said he couldn't be deported to El Salvador because his lawyer told the judge he was fleeing gang violence.

Homeland Security is supposed to give paperwork to the judge that he is a gang member and thus is ineligible for the safe haven he was granted by the judge.

Instead of giving the judge that paperwork and then deporting him they deported him because he was involved in human trafficking and part of ms13.

So technically he was using the loopholes of the justice system to avoid deportation and receive safe haven that he wasn't eligible to receive and was always going to be deported eventually.

He came here illegally as a teenager. He's 29 now. He's married to an American.

Anyway, Trump is NOT defying the Scotus because the Scotus DID NOT RULE.

All Scotus did was decline to block a lower court's order. That is not a ruling.

They also asked the lower court to "clarify" its directive and to work with "due regard for the deference owed to the executive branch in the conduct of foreign affairs", --- and that Judge Xinis may have exceeded her authority when she required the Trump administration to "effectuate" Mr Ábrego García's return.

Scotus is basically asking the lower court to BACK OFF and not usurp the rightful authority of the Potus here.

Illegally.

The divergence in reporting on this is amazing.

According to the left-wing media, he is an American citizen and good family man, here legally. He came over on the Mayflower.

According to the right-wing media, he is here illegally, and an MS-13 gang member, and a terrorist engaging in human trafficking and chopping off the heads of babies.

 

[69360]

The divergence in reporting on this is amazing.

According to the left-wing media, he is an American citizen and good family man, here legally. He came over on the Mayflower.

According to the right-wing media, he is here illegally, and an MS-13 gang member, and a terrorist engaging in human trafficking and chopping off the heads of babies.

I take the middle ground. I know he was here illegally. But he wasn't bothering anyone and seemed to a productive member of our society. I would let him stay, but am not sure if bringing him back is possible.

 

[acptulsa]

The divergence in reporting on this is amazing.

That's how the psyop has Americans living in two different worlds.

 

[nikcers]

The divergence in reporting on this is amazing.

According to the left-wing media, he is an American citizen and good family man, here legally. He came over on the Mayflower.

According to the right-wing media, he is here illegally, and an MS-13 gang member, and a terrorist engaging in human trafficking and chopping off the heads of babies.

Yeah the reporting on this is nuts. It reminds me of the time when we captured Saddam Hussein and one side said he was Hitler and the other side said he likes to eat Doritos and loves his country.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

...

"Consider that Joe Biden allowed approximately 20 million illegal aliens into our country. This placed extraordinary burdens on our country--our schools, hospitals, housing, and other essential services were overwhelmed. On top of that, many of these illegal aliens committed violent crimes, or facilitated fentanyl and sex trafficking. That is the situation we inherited.

The American people elected the Trump administration to solve this problem. The President has successfully stopped the inflow of illegal aliens, and now we must deport the people who came here illegally. To say the administration must observe "due process" is to beg the question: what process is due is a function of our resources, the public interest, the status of the accused, the proposed punishment, and so many other factors. To put it in concrete terms, imposing the death penalty on an American citizen requires more legal process than deporting an illegal alien to their country of origin.

When the media and the far left obsess over an MS-13 gang member and demand that he be returned to the United States for a *third* deportation hearing, what they're really saying is they want the vast majority of illegal aliens to stay here permanently. Here's a useful test: ask the people weeping over the lack of due process what precisely they propose for dealing with Biden's millions and millions of illegals. And with reasonable resource and administrative judge constraints, does their solution allow us to deport at least a few million people per year?

If the answer is no, they've given their game away. They don't want border security. They don't want us to deport the people who've come into our country illegally. They want to accomplish through fake legal process what they failed to accomplish politically: The ratification of Biden's illegal migrant invasion. President Trump and I will not stand for it."

 

[Brian4Liberty]

That's how the psyop has Americans living in two different worlds.

Two different virtual (and fake) realities.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Asking Grok:

"Was Kilmar Abrego Garcia a member of MS-13?"

"The question of whether Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia was a member of MS-13 remains contested, with conflicting claims from the Trump administration and Abrego Garcia’s legal team, supported by court findings. There is no definitive evidence in the provided sources that conclusively proves or disproves his membership in MS-13.

Arguments Supporting MS-13 Membership:

• The Trump administration, through officials like DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, and ICE official Evan Katz, has repeatedly claimed Abrego Garcia is a “verified” or “ranking” member of MS-13, designated a foreign terrorist organization in February 2025. They cite a 2019 immigration court proceeding where a confidential informant alleged he was part of an MS-13 chapter in New York, and an immigration judge found this sufficient to deny bond, stating the informant was “proven and reliable.”
  
  
• The Gang Field Interview Sheet from Prince George’s County police, used by ICE, claimed Abrego Garcia’s attire (a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie) and the informant’s statement linked him to MS-13. This was upheld on appeal in 2019 as not “clearly wrong.”
  
  
• Some X posts, like those from @PocketHoosier and @cgosselinaikens, assert he was declared a confirmed MS-13 member in 2019, though these lack primary source verification and may reflect misinformation or assumptions.

Arguments Against MS-13 Membership:

• Abrego Garcia and his attorneys consistently deny any gang affiliation. Court records show he has never been charged or convicted of any crime, gang-related or otherwise, in the U.S. or El Salvador.
  
  
• Federal Judge Paula Xinis, in 2025, described the MS-13 allegation as based on “a singular unsubstantiated allegation” and noted the evidence was weak, consisting only of his clothing and an uncorroborated informant’s claim about a New York clique, despite Abrego Garcia never living there.
  
  
• The informant’s reliability is questionable. The police officer who provided the Gang Field Interview Sheet was suspended shortly after for misconduct (sharing confidential case information with a sex worker), and neither the officer nor the informant was cross-examined, making the claim double hearsay.
  
  
• Immigration experts, like David Bier from the Cato Institute, clarify that the 2019 bond denial does not equate to a judicial finding of gang membership. Abrego Garcia bore the burden to prove he was not a danger, and the judge accepted ICE’s evidence at face value without validating it.
  
  
• Abrego Garcia’s background supports his claim of being a victim of gang violence, not a perpetrator. He fled El Salvador around 2011 at age 16 after Barrio 18 extorted his family’s pupusa business and threatened him and his siblings. A 2019 immigration judge granted him withholding of removal, finding a credible fear of persecution by gangs in El Salvador, a decision ICE did not appeal.

Critical Analysis: The evidence for Abrego Garcia’s alleged MS-13 membership hinges on a single informant’s claim, untested in court, and a questionable police report, both from 2019. The lack of criminal charges, the officer’s suspension, and the informant’s unverified assertion about a New York clique weaken the government’s case. Conversely, Abrego Garcia’s consistent denials, his documented history as a victim of Barrio 18, and Judge Xinis’s skepticism suggest the allegation may be unfounded. The Trump administration’s insistence on his gang ties appears to serve as a post-hoc justification for his erroneous deportation, especially after conceding it was an “administrative error.” The designation of MS-13 as a terrorist organization in 2025 does not automatically revoke his withholding of removal, as this would require a reopened immigration hearing with proven gang membership, which has not occurred.

Conclusion: Based on available information, there is insufficient evidence to confirm Kilmar Abrego Garcia was a member of MS-13. The allegations rely on weak, unverified claims, while substantial evidence supports his narrative as a victim of gang persecution. However, without a full adjudication of the gang membership claim in court, the matter remains unresolved."

 

[Brian4Liberty]

More from Grok:

"Jesse Watters, a Fox News host, claimed on his show that Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia’s alleged MS-13 membership is supported by substantial evidence, specifically citing his wearing of a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie, and his association with supposed “high-ranking gangsters” during a 2019 arrest. Watters argued that these factors, combined with the Trump administration’s assertions, prove Abrego Garcia’s gang ties, mockingly dismissing his backstory of fleeing gang violence in El Salvador as a “tortilla blood vendetta.”
However, the evidence Watters references is widely disputed and considered weak by courts and legal experts:

1. Chicago Bulls Attire: The 2019 Gang Field Interview Sheet from Prince George’s County police, used by ICE, cited Abrego Garcia’s Bulls hat and hoodie as indicators of MS-13 affiliation. Federal Judge Paula Xinis in 2025 called this evidence flimsy, noting it was one of two pieces of “evidence” alongside an unverified informant’s claim. Legal experts, like David Bier from the Cato Institute, argue that clothing alone is not a credible indicator of gang membership.
2. Informant’s Claim: The second piece of evidence was a confidential informant’s allegation during the 2019 arrest, claiming Abrego Garcia was part of MS-13’s Western clique in New York, a place he has never lived. The informant provided no proof, and the officer who authored the report was later suspended for misconduct, undermining its reliability. Court filings show the informant’s statement was double hearsay and not subject to cross-examination.
3. 2019 Arrest Context: Watters’ claim of Abrego Garcia associating with “high-ranking gangsters” stems from his arrest with three other men in a Home Depot parking lot in Maryland, where they were seeking day labor. One of the men allegedly called him a gang member, but police filings noted they did not believe the claim, and no charges were filed. The immigration judge’s 2019 bond denial relied on the informant and clothing, not a finding of gang membership, as the burden was on Abrego Garcia to prove he was not a danger.
4. Court Rulings and Lack of Charges: Abrego Garcia has never been charged or convicted of any crime, gang-related or otherwise, in the U.S. or El Salvador. A 2019 immigration judge granted him withholding of removal, finding a credible fear of persecution by Barrio 18 in El Salvador, a decision ICE did not appeal. Judge Xinis in 2025 emphasized the MS-13 allegation rested on “nothing more” than the hat, hoodie, and an uncorroborated tip, ruling his deportation illegal.
5. Trump Administration’s Narrative: Watters’ claims align with Trump officials like DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, Attorney General Pam Bondi, and White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, who assert Abrego Garcia is a “verified” MS-13 member and terrorist. However, these claims lack new evidence beyond the 2019 documents and appear to justify his erroneous deportation, which the administration admitted was an “administrative error.” ICE official Evan Katz argued in 2025 that Abrego Garcia’s alleged MS-13 ties negate his withholding of removal, but no court has upheld this, and the Supreme Court ordered his return.

Critical Analysis: Watters’ assertion of “much proof” exaggerates the evidence, which courts have repeatedly found unconvincing. The Bulls attire is circumstantial and culturally common, not a definitive gang marker. The informant’s tip lacks corroboration, and the officer’s suspension further discredits it. Watters’ reference to “high-ranking gangsters” misrepresents a routine arrest with no gang-related charges. His dismissal of Abrego Garcia’s persecution by Barrio 18 ignores court-validated evidence of extortion and threats, suggesting a selective narrative to support the administration’s stance. Posts on X, like those from @VernonForGA, echo Watters’ framing but offer no new evidence, reflecting sentiment rather than fact.

Conclusion: There is no substantial proof, as Watters claims, that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was an MS-13 member. The evidence—clothing and an unverified informant tip—is weak, contradicted by court findings, and insufficient to override his legal protections. Watters’ statements appear to amplify a narrative lacking credible substantiation."

 

[TheTexan]

He looks like he would probably be a gang member

 

[ClaytonB]

I'm just checking in on this forum after all of these years, to see if the supposedly "pro-constitution" "pro-liberty" forum was still in favor of checks and balances and due process.


And as it turns out, It's disputed, with the pro-executive-power faction appearing to have the edge.

Anarcho-capitalist, here, still representing...

 

[Swordsmyth]

New damning details have emerged regarding an alleged MS-13 gangster from El Salvador that the corporate media affectionately calls a “Maryland man.”


As TGP readers know, the Trump administration recently sent Kilmer Abrego Garcia, who illegally entered America in 2011, back to his home country. The administration cited two court rulings that found that he was an MS-13 gang member. This made him a designated foreign terrorist and an El Salvadorian citizen who was in the United States illegally.

TGP’s Jordan Conradson has also revealed that Abrego Garcia had TWO protective orders for domestic violence filed against him by his wife, Jennifer Vasquez. One of these was in 2020, and the other in 2021.


Court documents showed he repeatedly scratched and beat his helpless wife on multiple occasions, yet the media remains silent.


Now, Attorney General Pam Bondi has released a document that contains multiple damning new details regarding Abrego Garcia, which further blow up the media narrative about him.

We are releasing additional information on Kilmar Abrego Garcia.https://t.co/RbZkFvuRaf

— Attorney General Pamela Bondi (@AGPamBondi) April 16, 2025

The document in question is a Prince George’s County Police Department Gang Field Interview Sheet from March 28, 2019. Police arrested Abrego Garcia and three others after catching them loitering in the parking lot of a Home Depot in Hyattsville, Maryland.


The new information revealed by the document should put to rest any doubt that Abrego Garcia is nothing more than a violent and prominent member of one of the most brutal gangs on Earth.


Per the document, here are the details:

1. When Garcia was arrested in March 2019, he and three of his cronies were found in possession of marijuana and discarded several other items at the scene.

As Det. –approached the individuals, two of the individuals reached into their waistbands and discarded several unknown items under a parked vehicle. All four individuals were stopped by Hyattsville officers.

Two small plastic bottles containing marijuana were located on the scene. All four individuals were transported back to District I for interviews.

2. He was arrested with two other members of MS-13 named Christhyan Hernandez-Romero and Jose Guillermo Dominguez. A fourth individual was unnamed in the interview sheet.

Members of the Prince George’s County Gang Unit MS-13 Intelligence Squad have encountered Christhyan HERNANDEZ-ROMERO on multiple occasions. He has an extensive criminal history for multiple assaults, concealing dangerous weapons, burglary, and many other criminal offenses.

He has also been found guilty of gang participation in the Circuit Court for Prince George’s County in December of 2018. Officers know HERNANDEZ-ROMERO to be an active MS-13 gang member with the Sailor’s Clique with the rank of”Observacion” and the moniker of”Bimbo.”


Officers also interview Jose Guillermo DOMINGUEZ. During the interview, officers observed tattoos of skulls covering their eyes, ears, and mouth. Officers know these kind of tattoos are indicative of the Hispanic gang culture. The tattoos is meant to represent “ver, oir y caljar” or “see no evil, hear rio evil and say no evil”.

He also had a tattoo of a devil on his left leg, which officers know only higher-ranking MS-13 gang members are allowed to get a tattoo with the horns. This represents power within MS-13. Officers made contact with a past proven and reliable source of information, who advised Jose Guillermo DOMINGUEZ is an active MS-13 gang member with the Sailor’s clique, the rank of “Chequeo” with the moniker “Maniaco.”

3. When Abrego Garcia was arrested, he was wearing MS-13’s uniform.

During the interview, Thursday, March 28, 2019, officers observed he was wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and a hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes, ears, and mouth of the presidents on the separate denominations.

Officers know such clothing to be indicative of the Hispanic gang culture. The meaning of the clothing is to represent “ver, oir y callar” or “see no evil, hear- no evil and say no evil.”

4. A confidential source then confirmed that Abrego-Garcia was a member of MS-13 and revealed his rank in the organization.

Wearing the Chicago Bulls hat represents that they are a member in good standing with the MS-13. Officers contacted a past proven and reliable source of information, who advised Kilmar Armando ABREGO-GARCIA is an active member of MS-13 with the Westerns clique.

The confidential source further advised that he is the rank of “Chequeo” with the moniker of “Chele.”

More at:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/04/just-attorney-general-pam-bondi-releases-damning-new/

JUST IN: Attorney General Pam Bondi Releases Damning New Details Regarding Salvadorian Illegal Alien Kilmar Abrego Garcia | The Gateway Pundit | by Cullen Linebarger

Attorney General Pam Bondi unveils troubling revelations about MS-13 member Abrego Garcia, including multiple domestic violence protective orders. This latest update raises critical questions about public safety and gang activities.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Swordsmyth]

The Tennessee Star learned on Wednesday that Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged member of the Central American gang Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) who was deported to El Salvador under President Donald Trump amid legal action claiming the removal was by mistake, was suspected of being engaged in human trafficking by a Tennessee Highway Patrol (THP) officer who detained him in December 2022, leading the THP to contact the FBI for guidance. Within two hours, the FBI ultimately requested the THP release Garcia and the passengers in his vehicle. THP complied with the request.


The Star learned from sources familiar with the incident that Abrego Garcia was stopped for an unknown reason on December 6, 2022, and that the THP officer responsible for the stop immediately discovered Abrego Garcia was transporting seven passengers, with eight individuals inside the vehicle.


During a nearly two-hour traffic stop, the THP officer determined that Abrego Garcia (pictured above) was operating the vehicle without a valid driver’s license and began searching for information about him.


One source told The Star that THP ultimately discovered Abrego Garcia was on a terrorist watch list, but could not locate Abrego Garcia on a deportation list. Another source told The Star that THP did not discover Abrego Garcia on a terrorist watch list but that another one of the seven passengers in the vehicle may have been on a terrorist watch list.


THP subsequently called the FBI, which was then led by former Director Christopher Wray under the Biden administration. The FBI instructed the THP officers at the scene to capture photographs of all eight people in the vehicle and document its contents.


Once the photographs were captured, this source told The Star that the FBI requested THP release all eight individuals and that the THP officers complied with this request.


The Star learned that the circumstances of the stop made the THP officer responsible for the stop concerned that Abrego Garcia was engaged in human trafficking, but that Abrego Garcia and his passengers were nonetheless released at the request of the FBI.

More at:

https://tennesseestar.com/justice/bidens-fbi-ordered-tn-highway-patrol-to-release-maryland-man-recently-deported-to-el-salvador-after-he-was-detained-in-2022-traffic-stop-on-suspicion-of-human-trafficking/tpappert/2025/04/16/

Biden's FBI Ordered TN Highway Patrol to Release 'Maryland Man' Recently Deported to El Salvador After He Was Detained in 2022 Traffic Stop on Suspicion of Human Trafficking - Tennessee Star

The Tennessee Star learned on Wednesday that Kilmar Abrego Garcia, an alleged member of the South American gang Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) who was deported to El Salvador under President Donald Trump amid legal action claiming the removal was by mistake, was suspected of being engaged in human...

tennesseestar.com

 

[unknown]

Because he's a typical Republican.