Trump: Fighting Assad And ISIS At The Same Time Is "Idiocy;" Allies Are Funding Terrorists

[LibertyEagle]

Trump: Fighting Assad And ISIS At The Same Time Is "Idiocy;" Allies Are Funding Terrorists

Trump: Fighting Assad And ISIS At The Same Time Is "Idiocy;" Allies Are Funding Terrorists

For Trump, on the other hand, developing a foreign policy platform is much easier. His anti-immigration stance fits perfectly with the events unfolding across Europe and his “knock the hell out of ISIS” line resonates with voters who, no matter how much they distrust the government, would rather focus on whether liberals plan to take their guns or the NSA is monitoring their phone than they would on whether the good folks at Langley might have created the terror groups that now threaten to infiltrate and attack Western targets. Further, having never held elected office, Trump has the luxury of appealing to common sense when assessing things like Syria’s five-year conflict. You needn’t know anything about the Sunni-Shiite divide or about the Alawite government or the Baathists or about Assad’s connections to the IRGC and Hassan Nasrallah’s army to understand that America’s attempts to bring about regime change in the Mid-East have gone horribly awry and that fighting Assad while also fighting the people that are fighting Assad makes absolutely no sense.

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https://www.lewrockwell.com/2016/03/tyler-durden/intervention-hottest-campaign-issue/

 

[juleswin]

This must explain why Trump is also calling for an end to the sanctions on Hezbollah, Syria and Russia (those fighting ISIS) or maybe he doesn't know that US and her allies have been pilling on sanctions on those groups.

Also lets examine the words of the so called non interventionist and mind you Rand has a sort of the same problem but I personally think Rand is playing to the interventionist while Trump is lying to the non interventionists.

Trump:..........know, we were fighting both of them. I think that our far bigger problem than Assad is ISIS, I’ve always felt that. Assad is, you know I’m not saying Assad is a good man, ’cause he’s not, but our far greater problem is not Assad, it’s ISIS.

He think the bigger problem is ISIS the same way a person with cancer and heart problem thinks cancer is the bigger problem. This doesn't mean he is going to ignore the heart problem forever, just going to work on it once the big one is defeated. The problem comes from seeing a president who is trying to rid his country of terrorists as a problem. That is the logic that led him to call for US troops in Libya as you can watch below.



And as you can see from the interview, what he is asking for is essentially what Obama is doing already minus the stealing of oil. The fight against the Syria govt has stopped, the fight now has focused on ISIS and Al Nusra.

Then when pressed how his fight with ISIS will differ with what Obama is doing now, he says that he would ratchet up the fight and he would steal their oil. Yes, this is what we should all be happy about. A street level criminal plying his trade on the international stage.

So no matter how much the people on the Tv wants to convince you, Assad and his govt is not a problem to the US, its constitution or anything they are legally allowed to do.

Thank you very much, but I'll pass on Mr. Trump

 

[AZJoe]

There are a few good truths from that interview and the ISIS Oil trafficking:

Here’s the exchange between Trump and David Sanger with regard to Bashar al-Assad and Islamic State’s illicit and highly lucrative oil trafficking business which apparently no one but Russia wants to destroy:

"I thought the approach of fighting Assad and ISIS simultaneously was madness, and idiocy."

SANGER: The oil that ISIS is pumping.
TRUMP: "his [Obama's] strategy, it’s open and it would seem to be fighting ISIS but he’s fighting it in such a limited capacity. I’ve been saying, take the [ISIS] oil. ... They still haven’t taken it. And they hardly hit the [ISIS Oil Trade]. They hardly make a dent in the oil."

"That, you know, many people in countries that you think are our allies, are giving ISIS tremendous amounts of money and it’s going through very dark banking channels. ... I think we’ve done nothing to stop them, and that money is massive. Massive. It’s a massive amount of money. ... Very sophisticated channels. And money is coming in from people that we think are our allies."
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[jmdrake]

This must explain why Trump is also calling for an end to the sanctions on Hezbollah, Syria and Russia (those fighting ISIS) or maybe he doesn't know that US and her allies have been pilling on sanctions on those groups.

Also lets examine the words of the so called non interventionist and mind you Rand has a sort of the same problem but I personally think Rand is playing to the interventionist while Trump is lying to the non interventionists.


He think the bigger problem is ISIS the same way a person with cancer and heart problem thinks cancer is the bigger problem. This doesn't mean he is going to ignore the heart problem forever, just going to work on it once the big one is defeated. The problem comes from seeing a president who is trying to rid his country of terrorists as a problem. That is the logic that led him to call for US troops in Libya as you can watch below.



And as you can see from the interview, what he is asking for is essentially what Obama is doing already minus the stealing of oil. The fight against the Syria govt has stopped, the fight now has focused on ISIS and Al Nusra.

Then when pressed how his fight with ISIS will differ with what Obama is doing now, he says that he would ratchet up the fight and he would steal their oil. Yes, this is what we should all be happy about. A street level criminal plying his trade on the international stage.

So no matter how much the people on the Tv wants to convince you, Assad and his govt is not a problem to the US, its constitution or anything they are legally allowed to do.

Thank you very much, but I'll pass on Mr. Trump

What the hell? Thank you for posting this. I don't know how I missed it. So Trump supported Hillary's Libya plan. And people think he's not controlled by the same puppet masters?

 

[openfire]

"That, you know, many people in countries that you think are our allies, are giving ISIS tremendous amounts of money and it’s going through very dark banking channels. ... I think we’ve done nothing to stop them, and that money is massive. Massive. It’s a massive amount of money. ... Very sophisticated channels. And money is coming in from people that we think are our allies."[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

Outstanding! He's citing info disclosed by whistleblower Scott Bennett - the former US psywar officer and counter-terrorism analyst jailed and silenced by the Obama admin for attempting to expose the sources of ISIS funding; He sent this info to Rand Paul, Lyndsey Graham, John McCain and many others - Info about the ISIS financing network that's funneled through Swiss bank accounts - but this is the first time I've heard anyone mention it! I know that he contacted Trump's office and forwarded him the info... Looks like Trump is using it! WOW, awesome!

 

[jmdrake]

Outstanding! He's citing info disclosed by whistleblower Scott Bennett - the former US psywar officer and counter-terrorism analyst jailed and silenced by the Obama admin for attempting to expose the sources of ISIS funding; He sent this info to Rand Paul, Lyndsey Graham, John McCain and many others - Info about the ISIS financing network that's funneled through Swiss bank accounts - but this is the first time I've heard anyone mention it! I know that he contacted Trump's office and forwarded him the info... Looks like Trump is using it! WOW, awesome!

Does the fact that Donald Trump supported Hillary Clinton's Libya policy, which was the actual start of ISIS, not at all bother you?

 

[Anti-Neocon]

Does the fact that Donald Trump supported Hillary Clinton's Libya policy, which was the actual start of ISIS, not at all bother you?

It's not worth trying to reason with Trump supporters. They are hypnotized by the orange man.

 

[openfire]

He's talking about this:

 

[juleswin]

What the hell? Thank you for posting this. I don't know how I missed it. So Trump supported Hillary's Libya plan. And people think he's not controlled by the same puppet masters?

This is even worse, look at the date of the video and I think he was pushing for the war before Hillary and Obama came out publicly for it. This means that whoever is sending them the memo for it, sent it to Donald Trump first or the idiot opened his mouth first before the other 2 idiots did.

Either way, the man is too much of an insider to be considered anti establishment.

 

[openfire]

Does the fact that Donald Trump supported Hillary Clinton's Libya policy, which was the actual start of ISIS, not at all bother you?

Trump got his info at the time from the MSM propaganda outlets, so I'm not sure if he knew then what the real game was... Did he know that the CIA was orchestrating the entire Libya insurrection to overthrow Gaddafi, and that the fighters were CIA trained, armed, funded, etc?

Now that he's getting inside info, his tune is changing... The info in OP shows this to be the case.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump: Fighting Assad And ISIS At The Same Time Is "Idiocy;" Allies Are Funding Terrorists

It is irresponsible, undiplomatic, loose-cannon statements like this that make Trumpster a threat to world peace. What about showing some care for our closest allies like Israelis/Saudis and AIPAC, SWCs Kissinger/HRC/DGP/Lindsey/McCain and their abusive owners?


Death Toll From War in Syria Now 470,000
www.nytimes.com/.../death-toll-from-war-in-syria-no...
The New York Times
Feb 11, 2016 - Mourners gathered for the funeral at a mosque in Douma, Syria, north of Damascus, for a youth who was killed in a mortar attack on Thursday.

Obama's $195 Million Aid Package for Al Qaeda-Led Syrian Rebels
Aug 8, 2013 -

Obama Waives Ban on Arming Terrorists to Aid Syrian Rebels
3 days ago - When I first highlighted the fact that the rebels in Syria had large al-Qaeda elements to it back in December of last year, most people thought it ...

Netanyahu advised US against attacking ISIS, wants violence between ISIS-Iran

Israel ‘Concerned’ over US War On ISIS

ISIS and Israel to attack Hezbullah in Lebanon

No need to panic ; Former CIA deputy station chief discusses ISIS with Iraqi Sunni leaders

Will Neocons-Al Qaeda alliance end well?
Controversial zionist Charles Krauthammer making neocons' case for alliance with Al Qaeda:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIRUeJYFZ94

Syria: The Strange US/Israel/Al-Qaeda Ménage à Trois

Israel the Main Buyer of ISIS Oil — Report

ISIS = RM 2.0



Unrelated

EgyptAir hijacking: Officials say that the hijacker an "idiot" rather than a terrorist but later deny that
Hijacker and hostages 'still on board'

CNBC with news agencies
Tue, 29 Mar 2016

A hijacked EgyptAir plane remained stuck on the tarmac of an airport in Cyprus Tuesday with several media reporting a lone hijacker – said to be in an "unstable psychological state" –is on board holding a number of hostages.
There are several conflicting reports, some of which NBC News is unable to confirm, on the unfolding incident in Larnaca airport where the plane was diverted from its Alexandria-Cairo flight earlier in the morning.
Egyptian foreign ministry officials were also quoted as saying that the hijacker was an "idiot" rather than a terrorist, but this was later denied by the ministry.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/03/29/egyptair-aircraft-hijacked-diverted-to-cyprus.html

 

[jmdrake]

Trump got his info at the time from the MSM propaganda outlets, so I'm not sure if he knew then what the real game was... Did he know that the CIA was orchestrating the entire Libya insurrection to overthrow Gaddafi, and that the fighters were CIA trained, armed, funded, etc?

Now that he's getting inside info, his tune is changing... The info in OP shows this to be the case.

You sound like a Hillary Clinton supporter explaining away her vote for the Iraq war. "She just didn't have enough information." You didn't need inside information to know, after seeing what happened in Iraq, what the logical result of overthrowing a strongman in the middle east with the aid of Al Qaeda would be. And you certainly didn't need inside information to know, post Benghazi, what a disaster it turned out to be. If Trump didn't get this until years later when he had this so called "inside information" then he is truly too stupid to be president. I don't think stupidity is his problem. I think honesty is.

 

[jmdrake]

This is even worse, look at the date of the video and I think he was pushing for the war before Hillary and Obama came out publicly for it. This means that whoever is sending them the memo for it, sent it to Donald Trump first or the idiot opened his mouth first before the other 2 idiots did.

Either way, the man is too much of an insider to be considered anti establishment.

Exactly! And Donald Trump has already told us who he thinks is the best person to go to for foreign policy advice. It's CFR head Richard Haas. The CFR has recently changed its tune from "Let's control the middle east" to "Let's start a war in Asia." Donald Trump's rhetoric mirrors that perfectly. Oh....but the Trump supporters would have us belief Trump is pulling the wool over the eyes of the CFR.

 

[openfire]

You sound like a Hillary Clinton supporter..

No, that would be CPUd.

As for the rest of your rant, I won't disparage you for evaluating Trump's various positions over the past decade and longer, it's fair game. But I'm more interested in where he stands now, and more importantly, whether or not he's in bed with the globalists, neocons, et al.. I'm fairly certain at this point that he's not. The type of verboten stuff he's putting out there, along with their desperate attempt to block him, leads me to believe that if elected he won't go along with the "agenda" (if he doesn't get offed first).

 

[jmdrake]

No, that would be CPUd.

Sorry. I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. I don't think you support Hillary Clinton. But the "She just didn't have enough information" is the excuse I've heard over and over again for her vote for the Iraq war.

As for the rest of your rant, I won't disparage you for evaluating Trump's various positions over the past decade and longer, it's fair game. But I'm more interested in where he stands now, and more importantly, whether or not he's in bed with the globalists, neocons, et al.. I'm fairly certain at this point that he's not. The type of verboten stuff he's putting out there, along with their desperate attempt to block him, leads me to believe that if elected he won't go along with the "agenda" (if he doesn't get offed first).

Maybe he's not. We shall see. My concern is that as much as I've seen him say "verboten" things, I've seen folks that I have long respected sound neoconish (Alex Jones) in order to support Trump. I'm not certain who's being pulled in which direction. Ultimately....we will see.

 

[CPUd]

 

[presence]

I'm more interested in where he stands now,
and more importantly, whether or not he's in bed with the globalists, neocons, et al..

I'm fairly certain at this point that he's not.

Trump: I’ve been saying, take the oil.

wtf exactly do you think is the neocon end game in the ME?

hint: foment war, topple governments, create chaos, and then....


* drum roll please *


STEAL THE FUCKING OIL
FOR MULTINATIONAL OIL COMPANIES

leads me to believe that if elected he won't go along with the "agenda"

the trump-is-not-a-neocon douchebaggery is simply amazing to witness

Massive. It’s a massive amount of money.

Haliburton reconstruction and Blackwater security contracts are on the house!

 

[openfire]

 

[openfire]

wtf exactly do you think is the neocon end game in the ME?

hint: foment war, topple governments, create chaos, and then....


* drum roll please *


STEAL THE $#@!ING OIL FOR MULTINATIONAL OIL COMPANIES




the trump-is-not-a-neocon douchebaggery is simply amazing to witness

You are aware that taking the oil revenue away from ISIS would eliminate a big chunk of their funding, right? <-- That's Trump's rationale.

BTW, that's not the end-game for the neocons - that's just a perk.

 

[presence]

You are aware that taking the oil revenue away from ISIS would eliminate a big chunk of their funding, right?

You realize I give zero fucks about ISIS?

You realize the only reason there is an ISIS is because:
WE CREATED AND CONTINUE TO FUND ISIS
You realize the only reason we do so is to:
CREATE CHAOS and TOPPLE SECULAR GOVERNMENTS

TO STEAL THE FUCKING OIL