Trump did not visit Epstein homes or island, no contact with underage girls

[Swordsmyth]

In the unsealed trove of files on Jeffery Epstein it has been confimed that Donald Trump did not visit Epstein's home or island and did not have contact with underage girls.

On page 112 of document 1320-12 of the files, during the examination of witness Johanna Sjoberg by Laura Menninger, Sjoberg was asked by Menninger if Trump had ever engaged "in sexual contact" with her.

"No," Sjoberg replied.

In previously released documents from the same case, released in 2019, Menninger asked Giuffre about her previous interactions with journalist Sharon Churcher.

Churcher had previously covered the Epstein case and was previously subpoenaed for defamation surrounding some of her reports. Menninger asked Giuffre if any stories published by Churcher had included innacuracies about Trump.

When given the text of Churcher's reports about Trump, Giuffre placed a mark indicating something was wrong with a passage that read, "He didn't partake in any sex with any of us but he flirted with me. He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, 'you've got the life.'"

Giuffre told Menninger, "He didn't partake in any sex with us, and but it's not true that he flirted with me. Donald Trump never flirted with me."

"Then the next sentence is, 'He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, 'you've got the life.' I never said 6 that to [Churcher]," Giuffre continued.

In a screenshot posted by Jack Posobiec, Menninger asked Giuffre if she had ever seen Trump together with Epstein.

"Have you ever been in Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another?" Menninger asked.

"No," Giuffre replied.

Giuffre said that she could not remember seeing Trump at Epstein's island or home, in New Mexico, or New York.

https://thepostmillennial.com/break...omes-or-island-no-contact-with-underage-girls

 

[Cap]

Thank god that the FBI came through on this!! Don't you see what the promise of a new FBI building will do?

 

[Cap]

Still laughing

 

[acptulsa]

The Girl Who Was In Every Room All The Time And Flew On Every Flight.

Handy person to have around.

Don't grasp that straw quite so tightly. You're choking it.

 

[vita3]

Good for him.

Still not getting my vote

 

[TheCount]

Last week, Epstein raped every kid he saw.

This week, it only ever happened wherever Trump wasn't.


"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." - Donald Trump

 

[CaptUSA]

Last week, Epstein raped every kid he saw.

This week, it only ever happened wherever Trump wasn't.


"I've known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." - Donald Trump

Hmmm.... It's almost like the whole system is corrupt. Almost like there isn't a line between left and right as much as one between the elite and everyone else??

 

[TheCount]

Hmmm.... It's almost like the whole system is corrupt. Almost like there isn't a line between left and right as much as one between the elite and everyone else??

You may be on to something.

Also, it occurs to me that it's almost like there's some sort of two-tiered justice system where people how have wealth and power aren't held to account the way the rest of us are.



And for the oblivious in the room (you know who you are), no, Donald fucking Trump is not somehow in the disadvantaged tier. He's spent most of his life doing things that would put any of us in a jail or a poorhouse.

 

[fisharmor]

7.8 trillion in additional debt
stood aside while the country locked down
employed every swamp creature he could find
created a brand new branch of the MIC
assassinated foreign nationals of countries we're not at war with

I will never, ever understand why we need him to be a sexual deviant to reject him.

 

[CCTelander]

7.8 trillion in additional debt
stood aside while the country locked down
employed every swamp creature he could find
created a brand new branch of the MIC
assassinated foreign nationals of countries we're not at war with

I will never, ever understand why we need him to be a sexual deviant to reject him.

Quantum Dark Energy Wormhole Chess.

 

[vita3]

Mossad has to love how Trumpy takes all attention from their wicked ways

 

[WarriorLiberty]

Makes you wonder how many of the Republicans like Lindsey Graham likely visited the Island.

 

[TheCount]

7.8 trillion in additional debt
stood aside while the country locked down
employed every swamp creature he could find
created a brand new branch of the MIC
assassinated foreign nationals of countries we're not at war with

I will never, ever understand why we need him to be a sexual deviant to reject him.

It is unimportant but very very funny.

 

[ClaytonB]

He's spent most of his life doing things that would put any of us in a jail or a poorhouse.

This is a perfect illustration of the mindset of the leftist. The reason I'm supposed to be morally outraged at Donald Trump is not that he's (supposedly) a criminal, but that he gets to do stuff that I can't do, in other words, envy. Envy is the foundation-stone of Marxism and, ultimately, all forms of leftism. If your only moral compass is "we all get to do it, or none of us do (because it would be unfair for some of us to get to do it, while others can't)" you're blind and doomed. Murder, theft, sexual crimes etc. are all evil regardless of whether it's an open franchise, or not. But that would be "fundamentalism" and "closed-minded moral absolutism" and we can't have that, now, can we? We're modern and sophisticated, and we now know that morality is "flexible". "Raping children is not inherently evil because nothing is inherently evil. The real evil is that the franchise is not open and that triggers my envy-neuron, which is the only functioning neuron in my leftist brain..."

 

[fisharmor]

This is a perfect illustration of the mindset of the leftist. The reason I'm supposed to be morally outraged at Donald Trump is not that he's (supposedly) a criminal, but that he gets to do stuff that I can't do, in other words, envy. Envy is the foundation-stone of Marxism and, ultimately, all forms of leftism. If your only moral compass is "we all get to do it, or none of us do (because it would be unfair for some of us to get to do it, while others can't)" you're blind and doomed. Murder, theft, sexual crimes etc. are all evil regardless of whether it's an open franchise, or not. But that would be "fundamentalism" and "closed-minded moral absolutism" and we can't have that, now, can we? We're modern and sophisticated, and we now know that morality is "flexible". "Raping children is not inherently evil because nothing is inherently evil. The real evil is that the franchise is not open and that triggers my envy-neuron, which is the only functioning neuron in my leftist brain..."

You got me down a rabbit hole there.
On the one hand, I thought Rule of Law was one of the things we can all agree on. That's what I took out of this conversation so far: that Trump is very much a posterboy of violating the rule of law (by being able to buy his way out of trouble).
Believe it or not, I never have considered whether other statelessness advocates even agree on the idea of pursuing whatever we're doing in a framework of the Rule of Law. Obviously some won't, but it's only obvious once you sit down and think about it.
I personally advocate for statelessness because I can't see how it would be anything but better. But a kick in the nuts is better than getting stabbed. Doesn't mean I like it.
But maybe I think it'll be better just because my INTJ is kicking in and I can't see how others would advocate for not having Rule of Law outside of the current framework that rewards them for it.
In any case, I haven't been around to get pissed off by some of these characters recently so I was giving the benefit of the doubt.

 

[TheCount]

This is a perfect illustration of the mindset of the leftist. The reason I'm supposed to be morally outraged at Donald Trump is not that he's (supposedly) a criminal, but that he gets to do stuff that I can't do, in other words, envy.

You're overthinking this. I'm not envious of anyone.

Trump and his fellators are the outraged ones who claim that he's unfairly disadvantaged by an unfair justice system which is biased against him. That is the exact opposite of the truth. He has been advantaged his entire life. He is confused and dismayed by being held to account because that is a new and unusual thing for him.

Saying the exact opposite of the truth in order to muddy the situation is a common tactic of his.

 

[ClaytonB]

You're overthinking this. I'm not envious of anyone.

Trump and his fellators are the outraged ones who claim that he's unfairly disadvantaged by an unfair justice system which is biased against him. That is the exact opposite of the truth. He has been advantaged his entire life. He is confused and dismayed by being held to account because that is a new and unusual thing for him.

I understand the plot narrative. It surely would make for a believable and interesting TV series, like House of Cards. But narrative-plausibility is not truth. In the case of the Epstein Island situation, the question is whether Trump in fact (legally) committed any sort of crime in that connection. If he did, send him away forever. But if not, then this is all just narrative and propaganda. And if we consistently apply that obvious standard of basic justice to all the John Does in this case, then we have something resembling justice. Not that I'm holding my breath, since our INjustice system is manifestly corrupt and rotten to the very core.

 

[vita3]

You know your screwed when a good amount of folks believe Trump should be President just because he is NOT a child molestor

Rather see the focus right now on the child molesters & seeing if any actions can be taken to cancel them & serious pursuit of criminal cases

 

[69360]

So don't believe anything the government says about Trump, unless it exonerates Trump.

My belief is that Clinton and Trump were both messing with Epstein's underaged girls. Nothing will change that belief, so I won't argue about it any further.

 

[ClaytonB]

You know your screwed when a good amount of folks believe Trump should be President just because he is NOT a child molestor

But that's not really what it is. Trump 2016 was uniquely qualified in three significant ways -- 1) he has lifelong executive experience running major corporations, 2) he was a DC outsider and 3) he is rich enough that bribing him is effectively impossible. The big lobbies can't offer him a big enough briefcase to tempt him and, in fact, it's really just an insult. And the ones that could offer a truly enormous briefcase, eg Saudis, etc., are smart enough to know it wouldn't work, so better not to try. Trump 2020 and 2024 has the added benefit of now having experience in DC.

As for child-trafficking, this problem is not going to be eliminated until we deal with the moral rot and corruption in our most trusted police agencies and courts. And this corruption is not going to be addressed until the even greater corruption in the church is addressed. Because that is the true "inner sanctum" of the network of evil. They have always been hiding in plain sight, watch The Godfather...