Trump Declares Venezuelan Airspace Closed

[spudea]

Jefferson ordered the blockade of Tripoli and authorized over land attacks for regime change. All without congress. They were on the other side of the world. Venezuela is in our backyard.

 

[Snowball]

Jefferson ordered the blockade of Tripoli and authorized over land attacks for regime change. All without congress. They were on the other side of the world. Venezuela is in our backyard.

So, is Maduro now pirating US ships and demanding payment to release them?
Did he declare war against the US?

no. ergo........

 

[nikcers]

So, is Maduro now pirating US ships and demanding payment to release them?
Did he declare war against the US?

no. ergo........

Wars don't have to be declared for there to be a state of war.

All it takes is for there to be an act of war.

Actions speak louder than words.

 

[spudea]

So, is Maduro now pirating US ships and demanding payment to release them?
Did he declare war against the US?

I agree and counter with the following: killing our people, 100s of thousands over recent years, with toxic chemicals is far worse than anything the Barbary pirates did.

 

[Lifesoup]

We have plenty of oil and gas. Venezuela crude is well, crude. Not worth going to war for.
Real reason, kick out China from the Americas.

Yeah, if this can be done while making Venezuela friendlier to Israel.

 

[tebowlives]

Jefferson ordered the blockade of Tripoli and authorized over land attacks for regime change. All without congress. They were on the other side of the world. Venezuela is in our backyard.

It was within the President's Constitutional power. A defensive measure since Tripoli had declared war on America by seizing American vessels

 

[spudea]

It was within the President's Constitutional power. A defensive measure since Tripoli had declared war on America by seizing American vessels

That's my point, Trump can do far more against Venezuela for killing and poisoning our people and it is within his power and even his obligation, the Constitution requires him to act.

 

[tebowlives]

That's my point, Trump can do far more against Venezuela for killing and poisoning our people and it is within his power and even his obligation, the Constitution requires him to act.

Venezuela has not declared war on us and they have not fired on our boats. That's the difference between what happened back then and now

 

[Occam's Banana]

I agree and counter with the following: killing our people, 100s of thousands over recent years, with toxic chemicals is far worse than anything the Barbary pirates did.

I agree, too.

So when is President "Warp Speed" going to go to war against Pfizer?

'FDA acknowledges COVID vaccines killed healthy children'

Nov 30, 2025

https://x.com/BretWeinstein/status/1994904606913302874

The FDA now recognizes that the covid vaccines killed healthy children who were in no danger from covid itself.

That’s the tip of a gigantic iceberg—bioweapon leaks, science fraud, regulatory capture, a global coup by the “public health” bureaucracy against traditional medicine, the debut of a lethal new vaccine platform, shredding of the First Amendment, and robotic pens used to brazenly pardon criminal masterminds—all lurk just below the surface.

Thanks to @VPrasadMDMPH for stepping up...

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[Snowball]

That's my point, Trump can do far more against Venezuela for killing and poisoning our people and it is within his power and even his obligation, the Constitution requires him to act.

Well then you believe him. I can't cure that but I can tell you it's just an excuse and that the accusations are new, and based on cooked-up fake intel.

Post in thread 'US bombs "narco-terrorist" boats in Caribbean, Pacific'

Nov 16, 2025

The problems in South America have been a more recent problem.

They have always been a problem but the problem has been boiling over.

The collapse of these governments are setting the stage for these countries to become satellite states by adversarial countries.

This has only happened in the last 5 years. In the last 5 years adversarial countries have attacked the United States in a proxy war using migration as a weapon.

Listen. You have zero idea what you are talking about.

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson still has officers in the Pentagon he served with and are his close confidants...

• Snowball

You can watch the video in that post if you wish. Like earlier in the month where Congress tried to stop the bombings, and again when Congress tried to call in Rubio for questioning, next; if and when the Pentagon hits Venezuela, immediately a bipartisan bill by Schumer, Rand Paul and Tim Kaine will go to the floor.

 

[acptulsa]

 

[acptulsa]

That's my point, Trump can do far more against Venezuela for killing and poisoning our people and it is within his power and even his obligation, the Constitution requires him to act.

Answer the question, Tater. When is he going to war against Pfizer and Moderna?

 

[spudea]

I agree, too.

So when is President "Warp Speed" going to go to war against Pfizer?

We got Luigi Mangione in here? It's all coming out on the vaccines, RFK Jr is the right person for the job and we wouldn't have him if Kamela won.

 

[TheCount]

Jefferson ordered the blockade of Tripoli and authorized over land attacks for regime change. All without congress.

No.

Protection of the Commerce and Seamen of the United States Against the Tripolitan Cruisers​

(Act of February 6, 1802, ch. 4, 2 Stat.129)

CHAP. IV. - An Act for the protection of the Commerce and Seamen of the United States, against the Tripolitan Cruisers.

Whereas the regency of Tripoli, on the coast of Barbary, has commenced a predatory warfare against the United States:

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That it shall be lawful fully to equip, officer, man, and employ such of the armed vessels of the United States as may be judged requisite by the President of the United States, for protecting effectually the commerce and seamen thereof on the Atlantic ocean, the Mediterranean and adjoining seas.

SEC. 2. And be it further enacted, That it shall be lawful for the President of the United States to instruct the commanders of the respective public vessels aforesaid, to subdue, seize and make prize of all vessels, goods, and effects, belonging to the Bey of Tripoli, or to his subjects, and to bring or send the same into port, to be proceeded against, and distributed according to the law; and also to cause to be done all such other acts of precaution or hostility as the state of war will justify, and may, in his opinion, require.

SEC. 3. And be it further enacted, That on the application of, the owners of private armed vessels of the United States, the President of the United States may grant to them special commissions, in the form which he shall direct, under the seal of the United States; and such private armed vessels, when so commissioned, shall have the like authority for subduing, seizing, taking, and bringing into port, any Tripolitan vessel, goods or effects, as the before-mentioned public armed vessels may by law have; and shall therein be subject to the instruction which may be given by the President of the United States for the regulation of their conduct; and their commissions shall be revocable at his pleasure. Provided, that before any commission shall be granted, as aforesaid, the owner or owners of the vessel for which the same may be requested, and the commander thereof, for the time being, shall give bond to the United States, with at least two responsible sureties, not interested in such vessel, in the penal sum of seven thousand dollars; or, if such vessel be provided with more than one hundred and fifty men, in the penal sum of fourteen thousand dollars, with condition for observing the treaties and laws of the United States, and the instructions which may be given, as aforesaid; and also, for satisfying all damages and injuries which shall be done, contrary to the tenor thereof, by such commissioned vessel; and for delivering up the commission, when revoked by the President of the United States.

SEC. 4. And be if further enacted, That any Tripolitan vessel, goods or effects, which shall be so captured and brought into port, by any private armed vessel of the United States, duly commissioned, as aforesaid, may be adjudged good prize, and thereupon shall accrue to the owners and officers, and men of the capturing vessel, and shall be distributed according to the agreement which shall have been made between them, or, in failure of such agreement, according to the discretion of the court having cognizance of the capture.

SEC. 5. And be it further enacted, That the seamen may be engaged to serve in the navy of the United States for a period not exceeding two years; but the President may discharge the same sooner, if in his judgment, their services may be dispensed with.

APPROVED, February 6, 1802.

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[Voluntarist]

It's not that I advocate or support an invasion of Venezuela (or any other country); but doesn't the premise of the thread "Invasion USA" provide some rationale for those believing in that premise to support counter-invasions against the countries from which the various invasions into the USA originated?

 

[nikcers]

It was within the President's Constitutional power. A defensive measure since Tripoli had declared war on America by seizing American vessels

President Truman, without prior authorization from Congress, deployed United States troops in a war that lasted for over three years solely on the basis of the President's constitutional authority.

These sort of constitutional presidential authorities don't change just because of who the president is.

 

[tebowlives]

President Truman, without prior authorization from Congress, deployed United States troops in a war that lasted for over three years solely on the basis of the President's constitutional authority.

These sort of constitutional presidential authorities don't change just because of who the president is.

And he was wrong to do so. The UN doesn't give us our marching orders, the Constitution does.
You actually think presidents always follow the Constitution and do things correctly?

 

[Occam's Banana]

We got Luigi Mangione in here?

That's a bizarre (and bizarrely-directed) question. I've neither advocated nor defended a policy of wanton bombing sprees and undeclared war-making in the name of "our people" having been killed "over recent years, with toxic chemicals". So you tell me.

It's all coming out on the vaccines, RFK Jr is the right person for the job and we wouldn't have him if Kamela won.

LOL

The "it woulda been Kamala" taste-masking ketchup works even more poorly at masking the taste of Trump's bullshit than the "it woulda been Hillary" taste-masking ketchup did. The election was over more than a year ago. You guys really should move on and find some other hypothetical-but-non-existent squirrel to point at when you want to divert attention away from the non-hypothetical squirrel that actually does exist.

And speaking of the non-hypothetical squirrel that actually does exist: I'm sure the administration of President "Warp Speed" - who claims personal credit for having saved millions of lives with his skid-greasing for the Jab - will be just as diligent and enthusiastic in bringing "justice" to Pfizer & Moderna as in bringing it to Venezuela.

TRUST THE PLAN!

LMAO, even.

 

[nikcers]

And he was wrong

Most thinking people consider the fact that we liberated South Korea and contained the expansion of globalized communism and maintained the balance of power in the world because of it.

Its often considered the most consequential post world war 2 national security and foreign policy decisions of our nations history.

Its now by many considered to be the right thing to do.

At the time many people blamed Truman for not going even further. Thats how many people in our nation felt.

I don't believe it was the UN that ordered it.

The president commands our military.