Trump: Cryptocurrency ‘a Very Dangerous Thing’ — ‘I Like to Have the Dollar’

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Trump: Cryptocurrency ‘a Very Dangerous Thing’ — ‘I Like to Have the Dollar’

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...ry-dangerous-thing-i-like-to-have-the-dollar/
“What do you think about crypto?” host Maria Bartiromo asked. “Because, you know, New York and Miami are really getting cryptocurrency into their financial system.”

“Well, I never loved it because I like to have the dollar,” Trump replied. “I think the currency should be the dollar. So, I was never a big fan, but it’s building up bigger and bigger, and nobody is doing anything about it. And I … know it so well.”

“Look, I want our currency called the dollar. I don’t want to have all these others — and that could be an explosion some day like the likes of which we’ve never seen,” he added. “It could make the big tech explosion look like baby stuff. I think it is a very dangerous thing.”

See bold, we all know what that means when statists make comments like that.

No friend of liberty.
 
In other recent but completely unrelated news ...

"[Cryptocurrency] has the potential for [...] undermining the role of the dollar as the reserve currency [and] for destabilizing nations "
-- Hillary Clinton​

https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1461720120879845376
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In other recent but completely unrelated news ...

"[Cryptocurrency] has the potential for [...] undermining the role of the dollar as the reserve currency [and] for destabilizing nations "
-- Hillary Clinton​

Probably not completely unrelated and likely the same people in their ear.
 
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...ry-dangerous-thing-i-like-to-have-the-dollar/

See bold, we all know what that means when statists make comments like that.

No friend of liberty.

It's not axiomatic that crypto is the right path forward. Crypto is like Meta before we had Meta -- the only reason we need Meta is that the very same "elites" who are building Meta are interposing in real-space and increasing the transaction costs of real inter-personal interactions. They are increasing costs so much that there is virtually unlimited demand for a virtual meeting space to escape the IRL social hurdles. But of course, that is jumping from the frying pan into the fire and I think just about everybody on this forum understands that.

The primary reason we need crypto is to escape devaluation of fiat, and the financial-surveillance system which is really a wealth-prison. Crypto does have other legitimate use-cases that would exist even without fiat devaluation -- micro-payments, smart-contracts, etc. But there can be no doubt that the reckless devaluation of the dollar is chasing people into crypto and creating an absolutely artificial bubble. It is, as Trump says, extremely dangerous. It's safe to say that 90+% of people in crypto space are quite young and have never once been through a boom-bust cycle. I lost 50% of my wealth in the dot-com bubble -- fortunately, I was young and it was only in the 5-figures, but still, it was an enormous setback for me.

I'm not anti-crypto, but Trump isn't wrong, here. The US dollar was originally defined as a silver Thaler and later was defined in terms of gold weight. We need to go back to $1 = 1 ounce of silver or some other natural hard-money standard. I think that a huge proportion of Americans agree with Trump that American money should be denominated in dollars. But we need to return the dollar to a hard physical standard. If we don't, this Meta/crypto/VR/augmented-reality weirdness is only going to grow and grow as consumers and investors flee the burning ship like rats trying to escape the flames of inflationary devaluation.
 
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It's not axiomatic that crypto is the right path forward. Crypto is like Meta before we had Meta -- the only reason we need Meta is that the very same "elites" who are building Meta are interposing in real-space and increasing the transaction costs of real inter-personal interactions. They are increasing costs so much that there is virtually unlimited demand for a virtual meeting space to escape the IRL social hurdles. But of course, that is jumping from the frying pan into the fire and I think just about everybody on this forum understands that.

The primary reason we need crypto is to escape devaluation of fiat, and the financial-surveillance system which is really a wealth-prison. Crypto does have other legitimate use-cases that would exist even without fiat devaluation -- micro-payments, smart-contracts, etc. But there can be no doubt that the reckless devaluation of the dollar is chasing people into crypto and creating an absolutely artificial bubble. It is, as Trump says, extremely dangerous. It's safe to say that 90+% of people in crypto space are quite young and have never once been through a boom-bust cycle. I lost 50% of my wealth in the dot-com bubble -- fortunately, I was young and it was only in the 5-figures, but still, it was an enormous setback for me.

I'm not anti-crypto, but Trump isn't wrong, here. The US dollar was originally defined as a silver Thaler and later was defined in terms of gold weight. We need to go back to $1 = 1 ounce of silver or some other natural hard-money standard. I think that a huge proportion of Americans agree with Trump that American money should be denominated in dollars. But we need to return the dollar to a hard physical standard. If we don't, this Meta/crypto/VR/augmented-reality weirdness is only going to grow and grow as consumers and investors flee the burning ship like rats trying to escape the flames of inflationary devaluation.

So in other words you are not anti-crypto as long as the value of the dollar is based on precious metals. But given the current situation you support Trump's anti-liberty ban on competing currencies such as crypto as long as the dollar is not based on the value of precious metals.

Trump is wrong here since government has no business dictating what I can and cannot do with my fiat dollars. If I want to invest in a digital currency it is none his or his elite bankster friends concerns what I do with my money whether they do or don't fix the dollar to the value of precious metals.
 
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So in other words you are not anti-crypto as long as the value of the dollar is based on precious metals. But given the current situation you support Trump's anti-liberty ban on competing currencies such as crypto as long as the dollar is not based on the value of precious metals.

Trump is wrong here since government has no business dictating what I can and cannot do with my fiat dollars. If I want to invest in a digital currency it is none his or his elite bankster friends concerns what I do with my money whether they do or don't fix the dollar to the value of precious metals.

I didn't read the transcript, so I don't know what he said beyond the title of this thread. If Trump merely said "crypto is dangerous", he's not wrong. If he's advocating for more government regs, that's wrong because the root cause of social problems is never lack of government regs. But even this is not especially wrong -- Trump was never a libertarian.
 
I didn't read the transcript, so I don't know what he said beyond the title of this thread. If Trump merely said "crypto is dangerous", he's not wrong. If he's advocating for more government regs, that's wrong because the root cause of social problems is never lack of government regs. But even this is not especially wrong -- Trump was never a libertarian.

I quoted his comments in my original comment and it is at the link. See bold.

“Look, I want our currency called the dollar. I don’t want to have all these others — and that could be an explosion some day like the likes of which we’ve never seen,” he added. “It could make the big tech explosion look like baby stuff. I think it is a very dangerous thing.”

“Well, I never loved it because I like to have the dollar,” Trump replied. “I think the currency should be the dollar. So, I was never a big fan, but it’s building up bigger and bigger, and nobody is doing anything about it. And I … know it so well.”

That obviously means he want a ban on anything that competes with the dollar.
 
I quoted his comments in my original comment and it is at the link. See bold.



That obviously means he want a ban on anything that competes with the dollar.

As with most things Trump says, it was obviously incoherent, not obvious that he wants to ban anything. He may want to ban cryptocurrencies. He may want to ban the dollar. It's hard to say, based on what you quoted.

Trump is more coherent than Biden. But that's like being the smartest kid in the remedial class. It means nothing.

"I want our currency called the dollar"...? Uh... okay. That's definitely... a statement. At no point did he advocate regulation of cryptos, nor did he advocate for a metals-backed currency. He just said words.
 
As with most things Trump says, it was obviously incoherent, not obvious that he wants to ban anything. He may want to ban cryptocurrencies. He may want to ban the dollar. It's hard to say, based on what you quoted.

Trump is more coherent than Biden. But that's like being the smartest kid in the remedial class. It means nothing.

"I want our currency called the dollar"...? Uh... okay. That's definitely... a statement. At no point did he advocate regulation of cryptos, nor did he advocate for a metals-backed currency. He just said words.

It is pretty clear what he said.

"I don’t want to have all these others".

nobody is doing anything about it."

Every quarter he makes he makes comments trashing crypto. There is history of regulation that he demanded that actually happened under his admin and since leaving office he has been demanding even more regulation. If you remember he forced a number of banking regulations onto exchanges and also KYC requirements.

Here is his comment from June but the bashing continued again at the end of August and then again in October.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/trump-bitcoin-a-scam-us-dollar-should-reign
"The currency of this world should be the dollar. And I don't think we should have all of the Bitcoins of the world out there.

I think they should regulate them very, very high," Trump told Stuart Varney adding,

"It takes the edge off of the dollar and the importance of the dollar."

Trump was far more anti-crypto and passed more regulations than Obama who did not even touch it.
 
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I quoted his comments in my original comment and it is at the link. See bold.

That obviously means he want a ban on anything that competes with the dollar.

As A Son of Liberty already noted, there's nothing in what Trump says that he wants to ban crypto. The dollar is a legal construct of the US government and I think he's saying he wants it to stay that way (and not get taken over by some new-fangled CBDC). Before there was crypto, the Fed could get away with a lot more shenanigans than it can now. And so every time they print up a big fresh batch of cash, they are really betting the whole farm and that's what Trump is pointing out. The dollar is going to have to become sound money, or go extinct. It can't "out-fiat" crypto space.
 
As with most things Trump says, it was obviously incoherent, not obvious that he wants to ban anything. He may want to ban cryptocurrencies. He may want to ban the dollar. It's hard to say, based on what you quoted.

Trump is more coherent than Biden. But that's like being the smartest kid in the remedial class. It means nothing.

"I want our currency called the dollar"...? Uh... okay. That's definitely... a statement. At no point did he advocate regulation of cryptos, nor did he advocate for a metals-backed currency. He just said words.

He has advocated the gold standard.
 
As A Son of Liberty already noted, there's nothing in what Trump says that he wants to ban crypto. The dollar is a legal construct of the US government and I think he's saying he wants it to stay that way (and not get taken over by some new-fangled CBDC). Before there was crypto, the Fed could get away with a lot more shenanigans than it can now. And so every time they print up a big fresh batch of cash, they are really betting the whole farm and that's what Trump is pointing out. The dollar is going to have to become sound money, or go extinct. It can't "out-fiat" crypto space.

You are spinning his words to make this look like he was not specifically asked directly about crypto. "I don't want to have all these others." Words coming from a man whose administration has had a heavy hand on the crypto industry while demanding even more extreme regulation and repeatedly calling it all a scam. Every quarter this guy has been attacking crypto but you do not think there is a possibility he would try to ban it some day if he returns to office given those words?

Maybe he won't but given the history of his administration and his comments on crypto I would not trust him anywhere near a public office ever again.


Oh come on Clayton, that was during a 2015 interview in New Hampshire where he saying anything to get our votes. That was total con just like allot of things he said back then that we have either have not heard about since or he went in the opposite direction. :)
 
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You are spinning his words

No, I'm not. Trump uses words differently than most people, and you should know that by now. He is rarely, if ever, making a specific claim of fact and he generally aligns his phrasing with that reality. Of course Trump doesn't like cryptos, he couldn't possibly make that clearer. But Trump has repeatedly expressed support for the gold standard or a hard dollar. With Trump, it's crucial to differentiate his personal opinions from his policies. While he doesn't discuss hardening the dollar here, I think he would support that as a way to prevent the destruction of the dollar. But if you can't see that because you have TDS, so be it, think whatever you like.
 
No, I'm not. Trump uses words differently than most people, and you should know that by now. He is rarely, if ever, making a specific claim of fact and he generally aligns his phrasing with that reality. Of course Trump doesn't like cryptos, he couldn't possibly make that clearer. But Trump has repeatedly expressed support for the gold standard or a hard dollar. With Trump, it's crucial to differentiate his personal opinions from his policies. While he doesn't discuss hardening the dollar here, I think he would support that as a way to prevent the destruction of the dollar. But if you can't see that because you have TDS, so be it, think whatever you like.

Talk about spin and TDS, are you kidding me. "he uses words differently" LOL.

You do realize you gave him 4 years which he did nothing to move us to the gold standard, while complaining about competing currencies and implementing a variety crypto regulations.

Anyone that believed that Trump was going to lift a finger to move us to the gold standard is completely brainwashed by TDS. The same as the supporters that thought all year that "in two more weeks" he would be back in office.

While he doesn't discuss hardening the dollar here, I think he would support that as a way to prevent the destruction of the dollar.

You are putting thoughts and words in his mouth of what you believe he should do which does not reflect the comments he made about crypto over the years.
 
Talk about spin and TDS, are you kidding me. "he uses words differently" LOL.

You do realize you gave him 4 years which he did nothing to move us to the gold standard, while complaining about competing currencies and implementing a variety crypto regulations.

I didn't even vote in 2016 so, no, I didn't "give him" anything.

Anyone that believed that Trump was going to lift a finger to move us to the gold standard is completely brainwashed by TDS. The same as the supporters that thought all year that "in two more weeks" he would be back in office.

You are putting thoughts and words in his mouth of what you believe he should do which does not reflect the comments he made about crypto over the years.

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