Trump Changes Mind On NAFTA, Decides Not To Terminate Treaty; Loonie, Peso Soar

[spudea]

It's actually consistent with what he has always said.

Oh let's see who thinks they've got Trump figured out and have never negotiated a deal in their lives:

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Trumps 4D Chess Process:

1. Do or say something crazy.

2. If doing something crazy causes people to talk to interact with me, claim I've just negotiated.

3. If people notice I'm crazy or a liar call the media a liar. In fact, probably just do this first.

4. Delegate everything not related to doing or saying crazy stuff to other people.

5. Eat cake.

im glad i have a president who says one thing, but does another, and also says another thing while changing his mind and doing something else. im glad i was told to vote for him as he wouldnt lie like hillary...his secret buddy.

Welcome to MAGAville! This is all 36DD chest! (I mean 3D chess). Trump has to say he's for NAFTA because the deep state is blackmailing him with questionable pictures of him and his daughter. She's really a Zionist plant but Trump was really for us before he was against us. /sarc

 

[CPUd]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-...aded-him-to-keep-u-s-in-trade-pact-1493320127

 

[Origanalist]

It was insinuated with your "Make NAFTA Great Again" comment. It never was great, Trump never thought it was great. I don't even think America was great, but it has been pretty good. I would like to see Trump make American pretty good again, as opposed to watching Hillary reign over some hellish communist landscape.

If you had said "Make NAFTA Great" that would have been a reasonable comment. I'd prefer to abolish NAFTA, but if that is not going to happen I wouldn't mind seeing it re-negotiated by the man who wrote The Art of the Deal.

Ok dannno, I'll be sure to check with you next time to make sure my comments are reasonable.

 

[nikcers]

I wouldn't mind seeing it re-negotiated by the man who wrote The Art of the Deal.

Trumps ghostwriter should re-negotiate the NAFTA? Even if Trump were to renegotiate nafta he would probably just get some neocon to do it anyways.

 

[jmdrake]

It's actually consistent with what he has always said.

Oh let's see who thinks they've got Trump figured out and have never negotiated a deal in their lives:

Let's see who's the silly enough to think he knows who has and has not ever negotiated a deal. Oh yea...that's [MENTION=8593]spudea[/MENTION]. Let's see who's not smart enough to realize that Trump might be negotiating away liberty. Oh yeah, [MENTION=8593]spudea[/MENTION]. Did you miss where Trump told the dems "I'll fund Obamacare if you fund muh wall?" Oh, but you can trust Trump because you're psychic.

 

[devil21]

They'll stick TPP into the new NAFTA.

 

[Ender]

Trumps ghostwriter should re-negotiate the NAFTA? Even if Trump were to renegotiate nafta he would probably just get some neocon to do it anyways.

And a lovely quote from Art of the Deal:

"The final key to the way I promote is bravado. I play to people's fantasies. People may not always think big themselves, but they can still get very excited by those who do. That's why a little hyperbole never hurts. People want to believe that something is the biggest and the greatest and the most spectacular. I call it truthful hyperbole. It's an innocent form of exaggeration, and a very effective form of promotion."

 

[LibertyEagle]

This is all fake news, he hasn't changed anything.

Trump has always said he will re-negotiate trade deals like NAFTA. That is and always has been his position. It's in his speeches as a candidate, and it is contained in the article above.

The media likes to play games with semantics... when Trump the candidate says he doesn't like NAFTA and wants to re-negotiate, the media would say he wants to abolish NAFTA, and not bring up anything about the re-negotiation. When Trump the President says he doesn't like NAFTA and wants to re-negotiate, the media says he flip flopped.. It's $#@!ing retarded, I recommend not listening to a single word from the mainstream media.

Yes, you are right, Danno. But, it seems others just want to believe the same media that they railed against for lying when Ron was running. Funny how that works, isn't it.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Let's see who's the silly enough to think he knows who has and has not ever negotiated a deal. Oh yea...that's [MENTION=8593]spudea[/MENTION]. Let's see who's not smart enough to realize that Trump might be negotiating away liberty. Oh yeah, [MENTION=8593]spudea[/MENTION]. Did you miss where Trump told the dems "I'll fund Obamacare if you fund muh wall?" Oh, but you can trust Trump because you're psychic.

My understanding is that Trump was referring to funding the subsidies for the time being, until the whole thing is replaced. But, you knew that. Never miss an opportunity to mislead people though, Drake, right?

 

[devil21]

Yes, you are right, Danno. But, it seems others just want to believe the same media that they railed against for lying when Ron was running. Funny how that works, isn't it.

Perhaps you forgot it also was the same media that handed Donald the nomination.

 

[nikcers]

Perhaps you forgot it also was the same media that handed Donald the nomination.

I'm not saying is a conspiracy..https://youtu.be/KjO-_t6KtsY?t=171

 

[Superfluous Man]

This is all fake news, he hasn't changed anything.

Trump has always said he will re-negotiate trade deals like NAFTA. That is and always has been his position. It's in his speeches as a candidate, and it is contained in the article above.

The media likes to play games with semantics... when Trump the candidate says he doesn't like NAFTA and wants to re-negotiate, the media would say he wants to abolish NAFTA, and not bring up anything about the re-negotiation. When Trump the President says he doesn't like NAFTA and wants to re-negotiate, the media says he flip flopped.. It's $#@!ing retarded, I recommend not listening to a single word from the mainstream media.

So the reports that Trump was considering an executive order to exit NAFTA a few days ago were false, even though Trump himself not only admitted that they were true, but that for awhile he was "psyched to terminate NAFTA," up until he changed his mind, which you say he didn't do?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-nafta-idUSKBN17S2DG

 

[dannno]

Perhaps you forgot it also was the same media that handed Donald the nomination.

LOL.. ya.. the media that said every single day for 2 years that Trump is "literally Hitler" and lied about everything he said and twisted it into something he didn't mean every single day in order to make him look bad, handed him the election..

I hate to break it to you, but they were attempting to hand the election to Hillary.. One would think that was glaringly obvious. If you think they were trying to give Trump the Presidency, by attacking him every day, do you have any idea what kind of conspiracy that would entail? Do you have ANY evidence? I think almost everything is a conspiracy, yet this one is literally out of the park, I just can't see how that could be organized an executed like that for the purpose of getting him elected.. and the other big question, why?? Who cares? Why not just let them battle and let Hillary or Trump win? Why did Trump have to win? What advantage does that give them over Hillary? They would be able to get way more globalist shit done with Hillary.

 

[dannno]

So the reports that Trump was considering an executive order to exit NAFTA a few days ago were false, even though Trump himself not only admitted that they were true, but that for awhile he was "psyched to terminate NAFTA," up until he changed his mind, which you say he didn't do?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-nafta-idUSKBN17S2DG

What the fuck are you talking about?

The whole point of this thread is that Trump changed his position, which is incorrect, Trump has never changed his position.

Trump has always said that we would re-negotiate a trade deal with Mexico, and with Canada. That is still his position. Whether he re-negotiates NAFTA and calls it NAFTA or whether he abolished NAFTA and re-negotiates a new trade deal with a different name or the same name is totally immaterial, he has always been open to taking WHATEVER route was necessary in order to re-negotiate the trade deal.

Until you can show me where Trump has changed his mind regarding re-negotiating the trade deal with Mexico and Canada, which you can't, his position has not changed. His tactics have changed, but his goals and his position on the issue has stayed the same.

 

[Superfluous Man]

The whole point of this thread is that Trump changed his position, which is incorrect, Trump has never changed his position.

So, when his position was that he wanted to renegotiate NAFTA, and then his position was that he wanted to sign an executive order to exit NAFTA, and then his position went back to being that he wanted to renegotiate NAFTA, that all happened without him changing his position?

I have never, ever, encountered as much of a blatant, mindlessly devoted shill as you.

 

[Ender]

LOL.. ya.. the media that said every single day for 2 years that Trump is "literally Hitler" and lied about everything he said and twisted it into something he didn't mean every single day in order to make him look bad, handed him the election..

I hate to break it to you, but they were attempting to hand the election to Hillary.. One would think that was glaringly obvious. If you think they were trying to give Trump the Presidency, by attacking him every day, do you have any idea what kind of conspiracy that would entail? Do you have ANY evidence? I think almost everything is a conspiracy, yet this one is literally out of the park, I just can't see how that could be organized an executed like that for the purpose of getting him elected.. and the other big question, why?? Who cares? Why not just let them battle and let Hillary or Trump win? Why did Trump have to win? What advantage does that give them over Hillary? They would be able to get way more globalist $#@! done with Hillary.

Obviously, you haven't read The Art of the Deal.

From the book:

On the press: "One thing I've learned about the press is that they're always hungry for a good story, and the more sensational the better. It's in the nature of the job, and I understand that. The point is that if you are a little different, or a little outrageous, or if you do things that are bold or controversial, the press is going to write about you.

On bad press: From a pure business point of view, the benefits of being written about have far outweighed the drawbacks. It's really quite simple ... The funny thing is that even a critical story, which may be hurtful personally, can be very valuable to your business."

I was the one saying that the "bad press" was NOT hurting Trump. Apparently he agrees.

 

[dannno]

So, when his position was that he wanted to renegotiate NAFTA, and then his position was that he wanted to sign an executive order to exit NAFTA, and then his position went back to being that he wanted to renegotiate NAFTA, that all happened without him changing his position?

I have never, ever, encountered as much of a blatant, mindlessly devoted shill as you.

What is the point of debating if you won't read my posts?

The next line I wrote was:

Trump has always said that we would re-negotiate a trade deal with Mexico, and with Canada. That is still his position.

I didn't say anything about Trump's position being to re-negotiate NAFTA, that is just ONE OPTION he had on the table. His position is to re-negotiate the trade deals. You are the one getting wrapped up in bullshit semantics.

His position is to re-negotiate the trade deal between the US and Canada and the US and Mexico.

Now let me copy and paste the rest of my last post because your shill fucking ass apparently can't read.

Whether he re-negotiates NAFTA and calls it NAFTA or whether he abolished NAFTA and re-negotiates a new trade deal with a different name or the same name is totally immaterial, he has always been open to taking WHATEVER route was necessary in order to re-negotiate the trade deal.

Until you can show me where Trump has changed his mind regarding re-negotiating the trade deal with Mexico and Canada, which you can't, his position has not changed. His tactics have changed, but his goals and his position on the issue has stayed the same.

 

[dannno]

Obviously, you haven't read The Art of the Deal.

From the book:

On the press: "One thing I've learned about the press is that they're always hungry for a good story, and the more sensational the better. It's in the nature of the job, and I understand that. The point is that if you are a little different, or a little outrageous, or if you do things that are bold or controversial, the press is going to write about you.

On bad press: From a pure business point of view, the benefits of being written about have far outweighed the drawbacks. It's really quite simple ... The funny thing is that even a critical story, which may be hurtful personally, can be very valuable to your business."

I was the one saying that the "bad press" was NOT hurting Trump. Apparently he agrees.

Of course the bad press helped Trump, if you recall, I kept telling CPUd during the election that she was helping Trump get elected by posting all that bullshit.

But my question remains: Why destroy the credibility of the mainstream media just to get Trump elected when they had a toolbag puppet running against him? Obviously they were ok with Hillary winning, so why put in all the effort, which destroyed their credibility and just let them run a more normal election and let the two puppets battle it out? They already had two puppets in place ready to go.

 

[Superfluous Man]

What is the point of debating if you won't read my posts?

The next line I wrote was:



I didn't say anything about Trump's position being to re-negotiate NAFTA, that is just ONE OPTION he had on the table. His position is to re-negotiate the trade deals. You are the one getting wrapped up in bull$#@! semantics.

His position is to re-negotiate the trade deal between the US and Canada and the US and Mexico.

Now let me copy and paste the rest of my last post because your shill $#@!ing ass apparently can't read.

Yeah. I really am lost.

Show me the part about how one day his position is to end NAFTA, and the next day his position is to keep NAFTA, and that's not a change of his position.

Because that is exactly what just happened.

 

[Ender]

Of course the bad press helped Trump, if you recall, I kept telling CPUd during the election that she was helping Trump get elected by posting all that bull$#@!.

But my question remains: Why destroy the credibility of the mainstream media just to get Trump elected when they had a toolbag puppet running against him? Obviously they were ok with Hillary winning, so why put in all the effort, which destroyed their credibility and just let them run a more normal election and let the two puppets battle it out? They already had two puppets in place ready to go.

Uh....maybe so people here would feel good about voting for him? After all, if Fake News hated him, then his trustworthiness must be YUUUUUUGE!