Trump ban is not anti-Muslim, but anti-Iranian, pro-Israel

[juleswin]

Bannon you mean Breitbart??

Wish I had rep to give you. Its amazing how naive some people are to the connection between Trump, the Neocons and Israel. The web is not even that complicated but some just cannot see it

 

[seapilot]

^^THIS^^

Iran is NOT the bad guy.

We have been after Iran for decades; helped the Brits with the 1953 coup & overthrow of Iran's democratically elected PM. We installed the horrible Shah as our puppet and then made Iran the bad guy when they took back their country in 1979.

We want their oil. Period.

I do not want their oil. If the PTB wants their oil they would pay for it with FRN and Iran would gladly accept it like other oil producing countries. Iran is boogie man number one, NK boogie man 2 (no oil) for the MIC. Iran made the PTB angry when they ditched the Shah and gave oil producers the middle finger. The PTB despise any country that tries to get out from under their control.

 

[undergroundrr]

Bannon is Goldman Sachs.

 

[goldenequity]

^^THIS^^
Iran is NOT the bad guy.
We have been after Iran for decades; helped the Brits with the 1953 coup & overthrow of Iran's democratically elected PM. We installed the horrible Shah as our puppet and then made Iran the bad guy when they took back their country in 1979.

We want their oil. Period.

I do not want their oil. If the PTB wants their oil they would pay for it with FRN and Iran would gladly accept it like other oil producing countries. Iran is boogie man number one, NK boogie man 2 (no oil) for the MIC. Iran made the PTB angry when they ditched the Shah and gave oil producers the middle finger. The PTB despise any country that tries to get out from under their control.

Agreed. 100%.
If/when Trump fucks up... it will be China or Iran.

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[Contumacious]

Did you vote for Trump?

Yep

Protecting my right to bear arms; I thought was preventing WWIII, and an attempt to rescind the climate agreement

 

[Contumacious]

^^THIS^^

Iran is NOT the bad guy.

We have been after Iran for decades; helped the Brits with the 1953 coup & overthrow of Iran's democratically elected PM. We installed the horrible Shah as our puppet and then made Iran the bad guy when they took back their country in 1979.

We want their oil. Period.

From purely a US standpoint that's true. But the administrations are controlled by the CIA - Prez Trump has succumbed to the swamp . The CIA wants to (1) allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights (2) weakening Syria so it can nort retaliate against Israel when it attacks Iran

 

[undergroundrr]

alt-right mouthpiece CNN wants you to know that trump's travel ban is not a bad thing:

Trump's order is a balm for Christians, not a ban on Muslims...

The purpose is clear and the goals are well within the scope of presidential authority. Moreover, the criteria listed are consistent with American values and principles. Only the most ardent cultural relativist would have reasons to quibble....

Instead of complaining about President Trump's executive order preventing terrorist attacks from foreign nationals, when we invoke the words 'We the People,' we should celebrate the fact we have someone in the White House willing to go the extra mile to ensure the safety of our citizens.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/opinions/trump-travel-ban-christians-swain-opinion/

 

[idiom]

6 of the 7 countries do not have functional governments. This makes it impossible to vet travelers from those countries.

It is obviously focused on stopping anarcho-capitalists from visiting the united states.

 

[Contumacious]

all of the 7 banned countries are in the Iranian sphere of influence.

not only is Saudi Arabia not included, but neither is Afghanistan.

Bannon wrote it, probably with help from Tel-Aviv.

ill conceived especially with respect to green card holders

another point: where is Rand? not one word that I have seen

Justin Amash was out front on this.

Little National Security Benefit to Trump’s Executive Order on Immigration

By ALEX NOWRASTEH SHARE
Tomorrow, President Trump is expected to sign an executive order enacting a 30-day suspension of all visas for nationals from Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen. Foreigners from those seven nations have killed zero Americans in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and the end of 2015. Six Iranians, six Sudanese, two Somalis, two Iraqis, and one Yemini have been convicted of attempting or carrying out terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. Zero Libyans or Syrians have been convicted of planning a terrorist attack on U.S. soil during that time period.

.

 

[69360]

Bannon you mean Breitbart??

No I mean Bannon. He was personally, repeatedly accused of being a jew hater.

 

[Superfluous Man]

Yeah, Amash has shown some real leadership speaking out on this.

 

[nikcers]

No I mean Bannon. He was personally, repeatedly accused of being a jew hater.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...-network-born-in-the-usa-conceived-in-israel/

Bannon was a founding member of the board of Breitbart News, a far-right news, opinion and commentary website a site that would be unapologetically pro-freedom and pro-Israel. We were sick of the anti- Israel bias of the mainstream media and J-Street."[SUP][[/SUP]

“He was and is and remains staunchly pro-Israel,” said Abe Katsman, the chief counsel for Republicans Overseas Israel, who has written for Breitbart News.

One night in Jerusalem, when we were getting ready for dinner, Andrew turned to me and asked if I would de-partner from the 800-person law firm where I was practicing and become business partners with him. He said he needed my help to create a media company. He needed my help to “change the world.”

 

[69360]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...-network-born-in-the-usa-conceived-in-israel/

Again, no not Breitbart the website, BANNON the person was repeatedly acused of personally hating jews. You can't seem to distinguish between the two.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/stephen-bannon-5-things-jews-need-to-know/

I have no idea if it is true or not and really don't care.

 

[nikcers]

I ...really don't care.

famous last words I guess.

 

[Ender]

From purely a US standpoint that's true. But the administrations are controlled by the CIA - Prez Trump has succumbed to the swamp . The CIA wants to (1) allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights (2) weakening Syria so it can nort retaliate against Israel when it attacks Iran

All presidents have- the last one to buck them big time was JFK and we know what happened to him.

 

[seapilot]

6 of the 7 countries do not have functional governments. This makes it impossible to vet travelers from those countries.

It is obviously focused on stopping anarcho-capitalists from visiting the united states.

Some of those did have functioning governments before USA gave them a healthy dose of democracy.

 

[RandallFan]

Rand's most populist immigration policy was to restrict people from muslim nations with large uncivilized tribal areas & so-called state terrorism.

You can't ban Saudi businessmen in the short term. Not to mention the flight paths. I assumed a lot of international flights guy through gulf arab countries & not through Tehran.

I doubt international flights are stopping in Aleppo.

If Trump changes forces in Afghanistan he will want to use Pakistan or somewhere also. Not to mention Japanese nationalists,etc. want to use Pakistan and East Turkmenistan to undermine China.


The most important thing Trump did was to argue you can do without mass third world immigration.

What's with all these morons thinking 100% of Persians are doctors? It's a form of ethnic-chauvinism that Mark Krikorian talks about.

That's another part of Trump's appeal. "All Mexicans are hardworking with family values. 0% of them are single mothers on welfare. All Persians are doctors." Trumper:"Fuck off"


Tehran's hospitals would all be empty if that were the case.

Persians look good when they reside next to goofy forehead Armenians & illegals Mexicans.

 

[TommyJeff]

yes, and with regard to refugees or new applicants for visas it not bad. but to apply it to green card holders, people who might have left Iran or Syria 40 years, is just insane. people who left Iran after the 1979 Islamic takeover are subject to it. Iraqis who worked for the US military are subject to it. even members of the military born in those countries, and not yet citizens are subject to it. no one wants to have a situation like Germany. it just went too far.

just imagine Green card holders from other countries, and their families. they will be afraid to travel for fear a stupid executive order could affect them. and it could, if some nut from England or France does something, the entire country would be banned?

im not sure why you quoted me.
How does this comment of yours relate to my question quoted?

 

[pcosmar]

That is correct. The ban is intended to provoke Iran and has NOTHING to do with national security.

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It never has. It had nothing to do with national security when we attacked and imposed a brutal dictator on Iran.

It had nothing to do with National Security when we attacked them by Proxy via Iraq.

They have learned from being attacked.. They invested in Defense..
Attacking them would be an incredibly stupid thing to do.

and they would make much better allies.

 

[undergroundrr]

Sing this to the tune of Barbara Ann:

Trump's national security adviser, Michael Flynn, said the United States was putting Iran on notice over its "destabilizing activity" after it fired the missile.

"As of today, we are officially putting Iran on notice," Flynn said, without explaining exactly what that meant.

http://www.newsweek.com/iran-ballistic-missile-iran-nuclear-deal-michael-flynn-donald-trump-551436