Trump backed by blood consuming Bilderberger

jmdrake said:
Who's going to stand against him when half of the liberty movement is enthralled with him?

Or perhaps a lot of people are realizing that Trump looks a little too much like a Hitleresque character, during a ramp up to war and economic turmoil, and have decided to feign a level of support of the potential fuhrer in a bid to hopefully avoid the FEMA camp if/when this thing goes off the rails? Not everybody has the stones to stand by principles in the face of mounting evidence that some shit ain't right. Just posing an alternate scenario that's, imo, more likely than masses of Paulites suddenly falling hook, line and sinker for a liberal bankster owned reality tv character from NYC.

Also, there's the possibility that one shouldn't gauge the pulse of the movement based solely on what is posted on the net. The line in my sig about not finding liberty on websites isn't to be taken lightly. Several years ago, a lot of important websites and forums were bought and taken over by tptb. Not pointing fingers at any particular sites but read into that tidbit what you will. The ultimate co-opt is to flat out buy the opposition "leaders" and use them to covertly and subtly change the direction of the followers.
 
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Or perhaps a lot of people are realizing that Trump looks a little too much like a Hitleresque character, during a ramp up to war and economic turmoil, and have decided to feign a level of support of the potential fuhrer in a bid to hopefully avoid the FEMA camp if/when this thing goes off the rails? Not everybody has the stones to stand by principles in the face of mounting evidence that some shit ain't right. Just posing an alternate scenario that's, imo, more likely than masses of Paulites suddenly falling hook, line and sinker for a liberal bankster owned reality tv character from NYC.

Also, there's the possibility that one shouldn't gauge the pulse of the movement based solely on what is posted on the net. The line in my sig about not finding liberty on websites isn't to be taken lightly. Several years ago, a lot of important websites and forums were bought and taken over by tptb. Not pointing fingers at any particular sites but read into that tidbit what you will. The ultimate co-opt is to flat out buy the opposition "leaders" and use them to covertly and subtly change the direction of the followers.

That's all cool and dandy, but we should also strive to avoid being perceived as simply contrarians. Nothing is black and white once you are 5.
 
That's all cool and dandy, but we should also strive to avoid being perceived as simply contrarians. Nothing is black and white once you are 5.

LOL. Being "simply contrarian" is worrying about the birth certificate of a president who's about to leave office and the "conspiracy within the conspiracy" says he's actually hiding the fact that he's a natural born citizen. Sheesh! It's hypocrisy like ^this that I can't stand. When I joined this movement what I liked about it is that we weren't partisan hacks. Now you seem to be celebrating our hackdom.
 
Perhaps, he did, it is just that it is that he was likely not his birth father. The issue is one of misdirection designed to conceal the real truth behind his involvement with Frank "Dreams From my Real Father" Davis.

And having a father name Frank is unconstitutional because........? Oh that's right. It isn't. So this whole birther movement is all about absolutely nothing. "Oh but it proves he lied". That's only if you believe the conspiracy withing the conspiracy. That said, Donald Trump has lied. Rand Paul has lied. Ron Paul has lied. In fact, name me one person besides Jesus who hasn't lied.


1. I don't know you are the one bring the Jewish faith into the mix. To me "homeland" depicts communist beliefs, governmental supremacy, and social tyranny.

:rolleyes: I didn't bring up the Jewish faith. You are lying now. I brought up Jewish ethnicity. You are the one that brought up the Jewish faith. Quit lying.

Only a complete moron would think that "homeland" depicts communist beliefs as the word "homeland" predates communism and simply means where you and/or your people originated from. I'm pretty sure you aren't a complete moron so you can't possibly believe that.

2. Catholics are composed of many ethnicities as are Christians--Jews are fairly unique in this respect, and possibly practitioners of Buddhism and the like.

Sammy Davis Jr. converted to Judaism so once again you are not acting at your intelligence level.

3. No other religion has their place and people biblically solidified--which really is probably why the feel justified in calling it their homeland.

^That is just silly claptrap. All sorts of people who aren't Jewish and aren't communist use the term "homeland." I just showed you were Chris Tucker did as well. You are not as stupid as you are pretending to be so quit pretending to be stupid.


And his mother was born in the United States.

Hmm... So why specifically Kenya? (Surely she would actually know much better than Obama ever would after all.) http://www.wnd.com/2009/08/107524/

Because maybe WorldNetDaily is full of shyt and Obama's father was really Kenyan. Or maybe Obama did a genetic test like Chris Tucker and found out his ancestors were from Kenya.

So why not say both American and Kenya are his home country?

The context of the clip was Obama going to Kenya. Duh. Why are you pretending to be so stupid? Come on. I know you're smart.

You see no issue with the sitting president of America (including his family), referring allegiances to other nations?

WTF? Dude, talking about a homeland is not swearing "allegiance" to it. Come on. You can't be that stupid. Were you born in America? Is English your second language? I ask because the word "homeland" seems to throw you for a loop because you think it has something to do with religion or allegiance, or communism, or the Bible or whatever. It doesn't. Here, let Merriam Webster define the word for you.

Definition of homeland
1: native land : fatherland
2: a state or area set aside to be a state for a people of a particular national, cultural, or racial origin; especially : bantustan


That's it. Nothing communist, nefarious, religious or whatever about the word. All you are showing is an irrational hatred for Obama coupled with a gross misunderstanding of the English language and black culture. You want a reason to hate the man so you'll cling to whatever you can find. There are plenty of legitimate reasons not to like Barack or Michelle Obama. But Michelle Obama referring to Kenya as Barack's "homeland" isn't one of them.
 
How could Kenya be his "home country" when he was born in the USA?

Saddam was a CIA asset just like Osama bin Laden.

Just so we are clear Michelle said, "Home Country."

Watch it again so there is no confusion:



Home Country
The country in which one was born, regardless of where one currently lives. One's home country may have tax and other consequences. For example, one born in the United States is a citizen of the United States and so may be taxed on worldwide income, whether or not one lives there.
http://financial-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/home+country

home country
noun

The country where one was born or lives permanently:
‘although quite successful in his home country he wanted to make it in the States’
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/home_country

Home-country
Noun

(plural home countries)

the country in which a person was born and usually raised, regardless of the present country of residence and citizenship
http://www.yourdictionary.com/home-country#s5jO8Fsr6Lwya7Mt.99

home country
noun

the country in which a person was born and usually raised, regardless of the present country of residence and citizenship

Translations:

German: Heimatland

Etymology: home + country
http://www.allwords.com/word-home+country.html
 
LOL. Being "simply contrarian" is worrying about the birth certificate of a president who's about to leave office and the "conspiracy within the conspiracy" says he's actually hiding the fact that he's a natural born citizen. Sheesh! It's hypocrisy like ^this that I can't stand. When I joined this movement what I liked about it is that we weren't partisan hacks. Now you seem to be celebrating our hackdom.

You won't be missed. :cool:
 
If you were worried about RPF members coming across as nutty by discussing the birth certificate issue, well, that worry is no longer a concern, because this thread just took the cake, baked it, and served it up moist and extra frosty.

This has got to be one of the all-time best responses I've ever seen, and is therefore eminently spon... erm, rep-worthy. So pony ye deadbeat shit-toads; this jackass has earned his daily coin.
 
Will a damaged Alex Jones turn his muckraking journalism operation against the real Teflon Don? Will he look into the background of the Navy SEAL that Donald Trump has picked to overee the interior department? And you ask why does that matter? Think about it. Which department was the Bundy Rebellion really going against? Which department are the Standing Rock protestors going against? The interior department! A special forces operator is being put over the very federal department that armed and unarmed protestors have been going against the most! Oh, and Donald J. Trump has a financial interest in the proposed pipeline that's at the heart of the Standing Rock controversy!

So, will Alex Jones and other "truth seekers" seek the truth when it comes to Donald J. Trump? I think we already have the answer to that. Jones is going to carry Trump water until every it reaches its final destination or until every drop spills out. And people want to obsess over the birth certificate of an outgoing president who even according to a large segment of the "birther" conspiracy theoriests is a natural born U.S. citizen. Give me a break! You say you want the truth?

If AJ tried to carry Trump's water for Trump's policies against liberty, any crimes against innocent, war crimes etc he should be exposed if and when he does that. If he did that, he would be just another hack like Hannity who was carrying water for Bush during Iraq debacle and MSNBC/WaPo/NYT neocoms who carried water for DGP through all his dumb failures, war crimes etc.

That said, there seems to be a pattern in some cases of Trump appointing the very people as heads of departments who had pledged to eliminate those departments.

Rick Perry - in charge of Energy dept.
One man death panel on Obamacare - in charge of Health

This could mean he wants to diminish these deprartments or it may not mean that, we'll have to see how his policies playout to see if worthy of criticism or applause.

Alright. To everyone who claims that are so interested in "the truth" that they will carry on and on about the birth certificate of Obama who is about to be out of the Whitehouse anyway and who, according to the conspiracy within the conspiracy, is a natural born citizen who's father was not Kenyan but American, I have one question for you....

Although majority of GOP seems to be still "birther" and sees Obama as a secret Muslim, Trump used this issue to win GOP primary and promptly retired before general. Recent resurrection of birther issue in last few weeks of Obama regime may be a pressure tactic by Trump camp:

QUOTE:
"Not a fan of DGP but timing raises some questions as Sheriff JA is a strong Trump supporter. Trump had officially retired this issue but why is it making such a high profile comeback with hour long press conferences on a Fox media channel in final weeks of DGP's already tarnished legacy ?

Is this a "message" to DGP to cool the leaks/Russian "election hacking" media propaganda campaign aimed to delegitimize Trump win or else "birther" movement will be resurrected and "deep dive" investigation will be launched with coming Trump administration's covert/overt blessing?

If Steve Bannon or Roger Stone are behind this, "cut it out".

Peek: Sore loser Obama wants to delegitimize Trump win as payback for Trump's Birther claims
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Oh, and the blood needs to be from young people, preferably 18 years old. (I'm guessing he'd prefer younger but you have to be 18 to sell your blood). Why? Because Thiel believes taking blood transfusions from young people may be the key to immortality. Now, where have we heard that before? If you are thinking "vampire novels" you are correct. In the vampire mythology the prefered blood was that of a virgin. What do virgins tend to be? Why they are usually young people. Creeped out yet? No? Is that your cognitive dissoance kicking in?

Oh.....but Peter Thiel backed Rand Paul. Yes he did! And what did he get for his backing? Why the younger Paul went from attacking the Bilderberg group to litterally running away from the question. And of course Rand Paul ultimately endorsed Mitt Romney after being backed by Peter Thiel.

We'll have to see what his conduct/contribution is towards future policies of Trump administration. If PT has been doing something as a private person without causing harm to others and breaking laws, that would be his private business. Assuming claim is factual, such a an activity would be zillion times less immoral and damaging to humanity compared to these activities of neocons preferred HRC-dronegangsta cabal that Trump just defeated:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnmJ9JmqTtE

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So far, compared to activities of HRC-DGP-their bloodthirsty masters cabal (that seems to have been defeated by controversial Trump at least in elections), PT seems like a Saint.
We'll have to see how future policies unfold.
 
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Are we in Hot Topics yet?

So birther conspiracy theories belong on the main forum but actual facts about a Bilderberger belong in Hot Topics? It's a good thing you don't run this forum. Go back to SF.
 


Game, set, match. Point. Game.

Doyle BOOM!


That's nice. I don't know who Obama's literary agent is. WorldNetDaily says Obama was born in America. So who's right? Meanwhile it's interesting that you don't care that Donald Trump:

1) Called for an assault weapons ban

2) Says eminent domain for private business is "wonderful"

3) Had a blood consuming Bilderberger introduce him at the RNC

4) Has financial interest in the pipeline at the heart of the Standing Rock controversy

5) Demanded the overthrow of Ghaddafi in Libya, which he now calls a "disaster".
 
Yes. And that's precisely why I'm analogizing that to the Obama birther "conspiracy within a conspiracy" that Obama really didn't even have a Kenya father. It is a complete contrivance and bull$%#%.

Maybe. There is so much noise surrounding the issue that it is nearly impossible to reliably conclude one way or the other. For example, a week or two ago I watched a very well put together video titled "Dreams of My Real Father". It asserted that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii. His mother, a somewhat stupid girl rebelling against daddy having taken her from her high school friends in MA (IIRC) and plonking her in HI, had opened her legs for Frank Marshall Davis after falling for what I can only describe as a textbook line of shit from a degenerate. Predictably, she became pregnant and her father, allegedly a CIA agent, could not have a family tie with a god for nothing commie punk like that. So he convinced (with money) Barack Obama Snr. to say he was Jr.'s daddy, and the rest is history, as they say.

It is a rather compelling production, though one thing bothered me about it. In those days to have some black guy (really any guy, but black being WAY worse) seduce and knock up your daughter would have been more an issue than the fact that he was a commie bowel-movement. It is difficult to believe dad had no notable desire to hunt Davis like an animal and cut on him in ways that would have made Mao wince. That this was not even mentioned struck me as odd, though in retrospect I can see that perhaps such possible facts would be irrelevant to the key points of the narrative. I don't know.

Then OTOH there is the whole birth certificate deal. Issue a fucked JPG while calling it "untouched" and you are going to justifiably raise eyebrows. If Obama had really wanted to settle the issue, he would have produced the paper in hand and allowed the press to photograph it. There are many ways he could have approached this such that the issue would have been settled. But instead he gave people grist for the mill. He was a shady character from the get-go, and now more questionable behavior. Just how stupid does the "left" feel that people must be, that they should blindly accept suspicious behaviors as truth without question? It is not even remotely reasonable.

But the fact that so much noise, much of it clearly unnecessary, has been injected into the stream suggests there is likely something to hide.

At this point I don't think anyone is likely to be satisfied.

Chris Tucker provides incontrovertible proof that at least one black person who was never born in Africa considers Africa "home."

Yeah well, he's an idiot, so...

That means that Michelle and Barack Obama could consider Kenya to be Barack's "homeland" without Barack having been born there simply based on the fact that Barack's father was born there.

You're reaching, it seems.

For he record I actually am black, have been for my entire life, have been immersed in black culture for my entire life, and I can honestly say that most black people I know refer to Africa as their "homeland" or "mother land" or "mother Africa" or some other saying that means the same thing.

I've seen this nonsense and all I can say is most of them can't find fucking Africa on a map. It is ridiculous. I had to take a "black studies" class at CCNY for my degree in education, taught by one Kamuti Kiteme from Kenya. He routinely embarrassed the living shit out of me, the only white boy in the class, because I was the only one who knew the first damned thing about Africa. It was the one aspect of the class that was unpleasant. What I saw was a lot of talk and chest pounding about Africa this and Africa that and how this one was descended from the Mandinka warriors and so on and so forth. But when it came to making hay on the claims, everyone fell on their faces and Kiteme was disgusted with it, once going on a diatribe about why the white man has no respect for the black and that it was because of the attitude of the black man in America and not because the white man is an evil racist. That was another of those incidents where I tried to shrink between the cracks in the floor tiles.

I would also point out that Africa is not a "black" continent. It is also Arab, as well as several other popular divisions. So to go on about "Africa" like that makes one look like a complete idiot because I don't think Tunisia and the rest of northern Africa hold much historical value for black folk. I do not recall too many black slaves having come from anywhere other than western Africa.

All the talk of Africa being home to people who cannot find it on a map of the world rings a mite hollow.
 
LOL. Being "simply contrarian" is worrying about the birth certificate of a president who's about to leave office

Well no, not really. The truth of the matter is still important. Knowing the truth stands to lead is down a forensic path such that we may know how to avoid putting an illegal alien in the Oval Office a second time. It is indeed important just to know that it happened, even if all the details of how remain latent.

and the "conspiracy within the conspiracy" says he's actually hiding the fact that he's a natural born citizen. Sheesh! It's hypocrisy like ^this that I can't stand. When I joined this movement what I liked about it is that we weren't partisan hacks. Now you seem to be celebrating our hackdom.

As we can plainly see, it is not hypocrisy at all.

He may be a natural born citizen. But this has not been established beyond reasonable doubt or even a preponderance of evidence. Publishing that hacked JPG was a huge wrench in the works. So we will perhaps have to content ourselves with never knowing the truth about this bastard, and I mean "bastard" in the most literal sense.
 
Well no, not really. The truth of the matter is still important. Knowing the truth stands to lead is down a forensic path such that we may know how to avoid putting an illegal alien in the Oval Office a second time. It is indeed important just to know that it happened, even if all the details of how remain latent.



As we can plainly see, it is not hypocrisy at all.

He may be a natural born citizen. But this has not been established beyond reasonable doubt or even a preponderance of evidence. Publishing that hacked JPG was a huge wrench in the works. So we will perhaps have to content ourselves with never knowing the truth about this bastard, and I mean "bastard" in the most literal sense.

Osan, with al due respect, you have a hard time seeing anything. The corruption that is plain to see is Trump with an economic stake in the Standing Rock pipeline putting a Navy SEAL over the interior department. The corruption is a Bilderberger introducing Trump at the RNC. The corruption is the lies all politicians tell including Ron and Rand Paul. The "conspiracy within a conspiracy" that Barack Obama was really born in America to an American father named "Frank", which is now the leading conspiracy of the birther movement is irrelevant in comparison. The "birther" movement still has some legs in the republican party because Obama is a democrat and Obama is black and not necessarily in that order. Seriously there is more reason to be concerned about Bill Clinton and who he may or may not have killed than whether or not Obama's dad was named "Frank." Once the "conspiracy within the conspiracy" about Obama's dad maybe being named "Frank" gained legs in the birther movement, the birther movement ceased to have any relevance to anyone with any real objectivity and/or common sense.
 
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