Trump administration ordered to continue SNAP despite shutdown

[jmdrake]

I agree with Rand Paul that the rapid expansion of SNAP needs to be looked into but on the other hand I don't think the chaos that might ensue from its rapid cutoff would be good. We'll see what happens in a week or so.

 

[nikcers]

Federal Government has been shut down for 30 days. Its not really an abrupt shut down.

I would argue that if the federal government fails to act we have these things called states that should be able to act and if they can't act we have a private sector.

 

[TheTexan]

Boo hoo if you don't have money to buy groceries there's simple solution

It's called stealing

 

[oyarde]

No judge can fund unconstitutional dept of ag programs and no validity to any judgement. USDA needs abolised. Now is a good time

 

[Anti Globalist]

So we might not end up getting riots over this like we thought?

 

[PAF]

How Food Industry Lobbyists Keep the Food-Stamp Gravy Train Going | Mises Institute

The food stamp program is a way for Pepsico and the Coca-Cola company to legally rip off the taxpayers.

mises.org

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://x.com/TimcastNews/status/1985404822355374539

HAPPENING NOW: The Trump administration will use $4.65 billion from the USDA’s contingency fund to cover about half of November’s food stamp benefits.

Officials say the move follows a federal judge’s order to provide at least partial SNAP payments while funding remains stalled.

 

[oyarde]

In my home state
9 percent with an avg monthly payout of 192 , so 96 if reduced by half. Not a role for fed gov , shut it down

 

[GlennwaldSnowdenAssanged]

Judges have too much power.

 

[TheCount]

Judges have too much power.

The judge didn't write the law

 

[jmdrake]

No judge can fund unconstitutional dept of ag programs and no validity to any judgement. USDA needs abolised. Now is a good time

Judges have too much power.

The judge didn't write the law

From the complaint that was filed which led to the injunction starting at page 22:

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Congress appropriates $6 billion to USDA for use as a SNAP-specific
contingency fund.

95. In March 2025, Congress passed the Full-Year Continuing Appropriations and
Extensions Act, 2025 (139 Stat. 9, P.L. 119-4), which extended funding of most facets of the
U.S. government, including SNAP benefits, through the end of Federal Fiscal Year (FFY)
2025—September 30, 2025.

96. These regular appropriations lapsed on September 30 and, as of the date of this
filing, Congress has not passed an annual appropriations bill funding SNAP benefits for the
current fiscal year.

97. On information and belief, USDA funded normal SNAP benefits for issuance in
the month of October 2025 with the appropriations that expired on September 30 on the basis
that, because States sent the October issuance files in September, those benefits were obligated in
FFY 2025 and were therefore funded by FFY 2025 appropriations.

98. While Congress has not yet provided a regular annual appropriation for SNAP
benefits in FFY 2026, in 2024 it enacted an appropriations law funding $3 billion in a
contingency reserve to remain available through the end of FFY 2026 (September 30, 2026). The
appropriation law stated that the $3 billion “shall be placed in reserve for use only in such
amounts and at such times as may become necessary to carry out program operations.” See Pub.
L. No. 118-42, § 6, 138 Stat. 25, 93–94 (2024).

99. A continuing resolution in 2025 funded another $3 billion in a contingency
reserve for these same purposes, also to remain available at least through September 30, 2026.
See Pub. L. No. 119-4, § 1109(a), 139 Stat. 9, 13 (2025).

100. On information and belief, the first $3 billion and the second $3 billion were
available for expenditure as of October 1, 2025.

101. On October 2, 2025, OMB apportioned $750 million of the $3 billion
appropriation from March 9, 2024 (Pub. L. 118-42).7 On information and belief, OMB has not
apportioned any additional funds from the contingency reserve funds.

102. Less than a month ago, on September 30, USDA itself acknowledged in its own
shutdown contingency plan that SNAP “has been provided with multi-year contingency funds
that can be used for State Administrative Expenses to ensure that the State can also continue
operations during a Federal Government shutdown” and that “[t]hese multi-year contingency
funds are also available to fund participant benefits in the event that a lapse occurs in the middle
of the fiscal year.”

103. On information and belief, much of these contingency funds—if not all—remains
available to fund SNAP benefits and State administrative costs.
7 Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, OMB (last visited Oct. 27, 2025),

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104. Additionally, at least one other appropriated fund available to USDA has enough
money to fully cover November SNAP benefits. This fund, often referred to as “Section 32”
because it comes from Section 32 of the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1935, see 7 U.S.C.
§ 612c et seq., has over $23 billion in it as of October 8.8 Earlier this month, USDA invoked its
authority under 7 U.S.C. § 2257 to use a portion of this money to fund the Women, Infants, &
Children (WIC) program during this government shutdown.

 

[TheTexan]

USDA invoked its
authority under 7 U.S.C. § 2257 to use a portion of this money to fund the Women, Infants, &
Children (WIC) program during this government shutdown.

I've never heard of this program. Are pregnant men eligible for this?

 

[nikcers]

I remember when Ron Paul would argue giving people free food was a way to hurt people.

Since it makes people dependent on you and removes all of the natural incentives to produce their own food or change or improve their situation or develop the skills necessary so they can be independent.

At the time the Soviet Union was still around and he suggested sending them food. (to harm them)

I believe they call this killing with kindness. It worked against the Soviet Union of course. We sent them lots of free food.

Of course there's no such thing as a free lunch is there?

 

[Danke]

So we might not end up getting riots over this like we thought?

Maybe not, but the stealing will continue.

 

[oyarde]

From the complaint that was filed which led to the injunction starting at page 22:

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Congress appropriates $6 billion to USDA for use as a SNAP-specific
contingency fund.

95. In March 2025, Congress passed the Full-Year Continuing Appropriations and
Extensions Act, 2025 (139 Stat. 9, P.L. 119-4), which extended funding of most facets of the
U.S. government, including SNAP benefits, through the end of Federal Fiscal Year (FFY)
2025—September 30, 2025.

96. These regular appropriations lapsed on September 30 and, as of the date of this
filing, Congress has not passed an annual appropriations bill funding SNAP benefits for the
current fiscal year.

97. On information and belief, USDA funded normal SNAP benefits for issuance in
the month of October 2025 with the appropriations that expired on September 30 on the basis
that, because States sent the October issuance files in September, those benefits were obligated in
FFY 2025 and were therefore funded by FFY 2025 appropriations.

98. While Congress has not yet provided a regular annual appropriation for SNAP
benefits in FFY 2026, in 2024 it enacted an appropriations law funding $3 billion in a
contingency reserve to remain available through the end of FFY 2026 (September 30, 2026). The
appropriation law stated that the $3 billion “shall be placed in reserve for use only in such
amounts and at such times as may become necessary to carry out program operations.” See Pub.
L. No. 118-42, § 6, 138 Stat. 25, 93–94 (2024).

99. A continuing resolution in 2025 funded another $3 billion in a contingency
reserve for these same purposes, also to remain available at least through September 30, 2026.
See Pub. L. No. 119-4, § 1109(a), 139 Stat. 9, 13 (2025).

100. On information and belief, the first $3 billion and the second $3 billion were
available for expenditure as of October 1, 2025.

101. On October 2, 2025, OMB apportioned $750 million of the $3 billion
appropriation from March 9, 2024 (Pub. L. 118-42).7 On information and belief, OMB has not
apportioned any additional funds from the contingency reserve funds.

102. Less than a month ago, on September 30, USDA itself acknowledged in its own
shutdown contingency plan that SNAP “has been provided with multi-year contingency funds
that can be used for State Administrative Expenses to ensure that the State can also continue
operations during a Federal Government shutdown” and that “[t]hese multi-year contingency
funds are also available to fund participant benefits in the event that a lapse occurs in the middle
of the fiscal year.”

103. On information and belief, much of these contingency funds—if not all—remains
available to fund SNAP benefits and State administrative costs.
7 Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, OMB (last visited Oct. 27, 2025),

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104. Additionally, at least one other appropriated fund available to USDA has enough
money to fully cover November SNAP benefits. This fund, often referred to as “Section 32”
because it comes from Section 32 of the Agricultural Adjustment Act of 1935, see 7 U.S.C.
§ 612c et seq., has over $23 billion in it as of October 8.8 Earlier this month, USDA invoked its
authority under 7 U.S.C. § 2257 to use a portion of this money to fund the Women, Infants, &
Children (WIC) program during this government shutdown.

Its enough money to pay out fifty percent for one month. Comes to 92 bucks here. Probably take another month to figure it out and distribute it , factor in the two months inflation , down to 79 FRNs in purchasing power , that is two 2 1/4 lb chuck roasts and a pack of marlboros , govt waste at its finest

 

[oyarde]

Time for slacker Americans to go to work

 

[Occam's Banana]

How Food Industry Lobbyists Keep the Food-Stamp Gravy Train Going | Mises Institute

The food stamp program is a way for Pepsico and the Coca-Cola company to legally rip off the taxpayers.

mises.org

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Why Food Stamp Spending Is Out of Control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lwn-48q73yE
{Mises Media | 04 November 2025}

Ryan McMaken takes a deep dive on food stamp spending, food stamp recipients, and how Big Ag and other industry lobbyists fight to keep food stamp spending flowing and increasing.

Be sure to follow Radio Rothbard at https://mises.org/RadioRothbard

[audio (mp3): https://cdn.mises.org/2025-11/258-radiorothbard-20251103.mp3]

 

[nikcers]

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The healthcare industrial complex exists because people eat so much unhealthy food in this country. Its much bigger than SNAP.

 

[TheCount]

From the complaint that was filed which led to the injunction starting at page 22:

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Congress appropriates $6 billion to USDA for use as a SNAP-specific
contingency fund.

Yep.

If our government were constitutional, the president could not arbitrarily decide not to execute the law or fail to fund a program enacted by congress.

 

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