Trijicon Controversy Continues On

[Pericles]

Why yes, I am serious. The inscriptions may be a small factor but they are a factor in generating blowback. Ignoring the general anti-muslim tone of your post, you're saying that publicizing it is the fanning of flames, but not the actual existence itself? Odd argument.

I see no reason to respect the religious sensibilities of those who do not respect mine. For those, persons, I'll see them one jihad and raise them one Crusade.

 

[brushfire]

Why yes, I am serious. The inscriptions may be a small factor but they are a factor in generating blowback. Ignoring the general anti-muslim tone of your post, you're saying that publicizing it is the fanning of flames, but not the actual existence itself? Odd argument.

Not defending the other post, but putting things into perspective:
Its probably not something that will even register when compared to our drones killing thousands of innocent by standers. I dont think >6pt font scripture numbers are really any more relevant to the Muslims being shot at, than the occasional cross wearing chaplain. I seriously doubt that removing the scriptures, or even offering Quran equivalent, is going to lessen the blowback of US foreign policy. To my knowledge the DOD RFP mentions nothing about Jesus numbers as being a technical requirement... If it did, perhaps there would be a case to be made against it.

The significance of this whole complaint is a complete media fabrication... Trust me, nobody on the other end of that optic is ever going to be happy - even if you have "I love Allah" slapped on the side. IMO, the battle worth fighting is to bring the troops home - assuming one is to be concerned about blowback.

On a side note, the whole debate reminds me of this demotiv:

 

[devil21]

I see no reason to respect the religious sensibilities of those who do not respect mine. For those, persons, I'll see them one jihad and raise them one Crusade.

Then by all means continue to enjoy the Holy War that is underway since your attitude (and theirs) means everyone loses, including people like me that don't care about one's religion. Fighting over which invisible man is superior is a sure loser and history has proven it over and over.

IMO, the battle worth fighting is to bring the troops home - assuming one is to be concerned about blowback.

That's another related problem with this.

Handing troops equipment with said inscriptions doesn't help, regardless of what the target may think about it. Maybe my argument should be honed down more that handing some (stereotypical) 20 year old midwest kid that was raised in an evangelical family a piece of equipment to mount on a gun to shoot at muslims doesn't help back things down either. Seems to me it only reinforces the religious nature (on both sides) of these conflicts instead of any rational necessity for these conflicts. "Remember son, you're fighting for God!" Yeah that always ends well....

 

[TheTexan]

which some soldiers argue is endangering their lives by reinforcing suspicions that the United States is waging a crusade against Muslims.

The Global War on Terror is a crusade against Muslims?? Where would anybody get a silly idea like that!

 

[osan]

Why yes, I am serious. The inscriptions may be a small factor but they are a factor in generating blowback. Ignoring the general anti-muslim tone of your post, you're saying that publicizing it is the fanning of flames, but not the actual existence itself? Odd argument.

You need to take a class in reading comprehension. I am not "anti-muslim", but I am anti-imbecile. I also understand the muslim POV for reasons I will not go into here.

And yes, publicizing it is fanning the flames from several perspectives, at least one of which I cited. Without the publicity I doubt any of those religious loons would have so much as noticed the inscriptions, much less known what they meant. Hello.

We never should have gone there in the first place and IMO we should leave ASAP, preferably yesterday. But as long as our people are over there we should endeavor to keep them as safe as is reasonable under the circumstances.

 

[devil21]

You need to take a class in reading comprehension. I am not "anti-muslim", but I am anti-imbecile. I also understand the muslim POV for reasons I will not go into here.

And yes, publicizing it is fanning the flames from several perspectives, at least one of which I cited. Without the publicity I doubt any of those religious loons would have so much as noticed the inscriptions, much less known what they meant. Hello.

We never should have gone there in the first place and IMO we should leave ASAP, preferably yesterday. But as long as our people are over there we should endeavor to keep them as safe as is reasonable under the circumstances.

Reminds me of the arguments of those that claim Bradley Manning and Julian Assange should be kept in prison for life.

 

[AuH20]

You need to take a class in reading comprehension. I am not "anti-muslim", but I am anti-imbecile. I also understand the muslim POV for reasons I will not go into here.

And yes, publicizing it is fanning the flames from several perspectives, at least one of which I cited. Without the publicity I doubt any of those religious loons would have so much as noticed the inscriptions, much less known what they meant. Hello.

We never should have gone there in the first place and IMO we should leave ASAP, preferably yesterday. But as long as our people are over there we should endeavor to keep them as safe as is reasonable under the circumstances.

Exactly. This is a manufactured crisis from fiercely anti-Christian elements looking for the slightest inkling to besmirch this as some greater Holy War when it's basically fallout from imperial expansion. They are digits on an optic. Secondly, from my understanding most of the referenced passages are happy, go lucky New Testament stuff as opposed to smite your enemy tinged rhetoric. They're kind of like lucky heirlooms for the optic owner as opposed to harbingers of death.

 

[brushfire]

Seems to me it only reinforces the religious nature (on both sides) of these conflicts instead of any rational necessity for these conflicts. "Remember son, you're fighting for God!" Yeah that always ends well....

It was a discrete numbering system that the media only became aware of after watching a youtube vid. Since then, the only thing that's changed is that some have become distracted, by what really amounts to something very insignificant.

For the record, the dollars we send their dictators also have "In God We Trust" on them too... Maybe this is an all out holy war!?

BTW - my ACOG has jn8:12, and the typeface used to spell "In God We Trust" on a US Quarter Dollar is right around the same size... Coincidence? Really, its that small.

FWIW - you're entitled to your opinion, and I dont blame you for defending it. I'm simply not on board with the Trijicon witch hunt - I think its rediculous.

But hey, I may be slightly subjective

When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, “I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.”

 

[puppetmaster]

There are nut jobs in all religions.......and they are the most vocal and always are pro kill the other guy and his silly god