Trevor Lyman is back - with a MoneyBomb for Rand Paul!

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January 10th!


"After the other night's debate, I've decided to get back into this thing and support Rand Paul.

I love what he said about questioning regime change. I think Americans need to hear this message over and over again.

While I disagree with him on some points, now that I've seen a bit more of this Presidential campaign, I mostly like what he has done and said throughout it.

I think he would shut down some of our nations worst, most unconstitutional departments and programs.

And I think we've seen repeatedly that when he speaks loudest he is speaking in defense of liberty.

So, to support Rand Paul's campaign, I'm asking if you'll join me in holding a moneybomb for him, but with a twist, one that I hope will ensure its success.

Moneybombs are good fundraising devices, but they operate "out of balance" (they don't feed the hand that feeds them) and so they still need to be improved.

Here is the idea...

Let's hold a moneybomb for Rand Paul and let's also donate (a much smaller amount) to the websites that send traffic to the moneybomb.

If we support the websites that send traffic to our moneybomb, we can expect more sites to support our moneybombl

If we support (donate to) those who support Rand Paul now, our donations to them will attract larger and larger websites to join in.

This means we'll get a lot more traffic and exposure and so we'll raise a lot more money for Rand Paul.

Think of sites like DrudgeReport and ZeroHedge.

Wouldn't it be nice to have 10 to 20 sites of that size sending traffic our way?

Well, they all survive off of advertising revenue. We can't expect them to constantly give up valuable ad space for free to Rand Paul. And they don't!

Look around us and see what has happened to the energy in libertarian circles. It's decreasing when it should be on the rise!

The reality is our "movement" is constantly asking those who work hard to maintain and grow their online audience, to then give away that audience for free, and for years and years!

The strategy isn't working very well.

Take a look at ActBlue.com. It's a Democratic fundraising site.

They pay blogs that raise funds for Democratic candidates a share of what they help to raise.

That's why they raise big money (almost $900 Million total to date!) for their politicians. They harness the energy of the blogosphere by motivating them with a fair and just reward.

Smart!

We can be smart, too.

That's why I suggest we give a total of 10% of what we raise to the blogosphere that supports our events.

I've set up a moneybomb page at http://RevolutionMoneybomb.com

If you scroll to the bottom you'll see a mockup/example of what I'm talking about.

It's scratch text, but it shows you the details and info that will be there as soon as data starts coming in.

Also, there is a link you can use to pledge and NOT receive any email updates, if that's what you prefer.

The site is live so if you support Rand Paul and you want to help make this moneybomb succeed, go ahead and pledge!

Again the site is at http://RevolutionMoneyBomb.com

If you want to do a bit more to help this moneybomb grow, the first thing we need help with is getting the word out to the liberty blogosphere. If you know someone with a website, please tell them about this event and how it works and let them know the grassroots will reward/thank them for their help.

If you do this and if the blogosphere joins in, we'll have all the traffic and exposure we'll need to create the largest moneybomb we've seen so far this election cycle.

Oh! And January 10th is the day Thomas Paine published his pamphlet "Common Sense".

That will make sense when you visit the site. :)

If you run a website or blog and you are sending traffic to this moneybomb, please get in touch with me at lyman.trevor @ gmail.com so we can set up your donation link.

Thanks for checking this out and thanks for any feedback you might have to offer." - Trevor Lyman
 
What if people pledge/donate through your twitter/facebook/youtube channel?
 
Initially, this doesn't excite me but I'm interested to see whether others see this as a positive uploading to the next m-bomb. Naturally, I want Rand to have plenty of funds and excitement and TL does have some cred/decor in that area so let's give it a shot.
 
So, what's your cut out of this, Trevor?


Let's pretend he's doing this out of his own heart. Perhaps this may raise more or a lot more than the typical 100kish that Rand has raised during these so-called bombs. The dude is well known and might be what we need to give Rand his staying power or launching status for the primary season so let's let this unfold w/0 the additional lols.

I know that Rand doesn't have the same backing that Ron did but maybe Trevor's old list could do something magical that we haven't been accustomed to at this point or not. Let's see huh?
 
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Let's pretend he's doing this out of his own heart. Perhaps this may raise more or a lot more than the typical 100kish that Rand has raised during these so-called bombs. The dude is well known and might be what we need to give Rand his staying power or launching status for the primary season so let's let this unfold w/0 the additional lols.

I know that Rand doesn't have the same backing that Ron did but maybe Trevor's old list could do something magical that we haven't been accustomed to at this point or not. Let's see huh?

Until we know what the kickback is to Trevor, I think it would be foolish to go forward with this, FSP. Last time I recall Trevor pitching something here, Bryan pretty much ran him out on a rail. Trevor hasn't done anything for any candidate without asking for a huge payout, for quite some time.

I would imagine that most everyone here wants the money they donate to Rand to go to Rand; not Trevor Lyman.
 
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I hope Trevor has come around. It sure sounds like it. I just popped out of the bushes too and I'm ready to make it happen. All that talk of war up there really fired me up to go revolution style for Rand too.

I see the idea Trevor is talking about.. It's basically paying for advertising on the sites is all... We shouldn't have to pay any more than anyone else, or fair rates... But the campaign would have to be involved 100% in the contracts. Money directly to rand through his site.

I also want to add - this idea is kinda like how we raised 6 million for Ron Paul. What I got shocked at was we only need 2000 people in the US to donate 100.00 to reach 2mil and get some media attention and hopefully recognition.

That needs to be used in the next biggest money bomb from the campaign 2000ppl/$100/$200,000
Edit- oh wait did he say 2million.. That would be 1000 each .
 
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Until we know what the kickback is to Trevor, I think it would be foolish to go forward with this, FSP. Last time I recall Trevor pitching something here, Bryan pretty much ran him out on a rail. Trevor hasn't done anything for any candidate without asking for a huge payout, for quite some time.

I would imagine that most everyone here wants the money they donate to Rand to go to Rand; not Trevor Lyman.

I think the 10% donation to websites promoting is voluntary?
 
I think the 10% donation to websites promoting is voluntary?

It was voluntary to give your money to Madoff too.

Who are these mysterious websites that the 10% goes to? How and when does the money go to them and who holds the money in the meantime and how will we know how the money was distributed? What does Trevor make from doing this, besides of course rebuilding his liberty mailing list, which he can then rent to other sources? Don't forget that such mailing lists have become a huge commodity.

Trevor has gouged us more than once. For me, any money I donate to Rand during this election will be through Rand's campaign. Period.

NOTE: You might also ask Zak what he is receiving for marketing this.


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From Trevor's pitch on his website...
Support this moneybomb event!
Click here to donate to it now!
By donating to the moneybomb effort, you are supporting the time and effort it takes to create and promote this event. Thank you!

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What does this mean? It sure sounds like Trevor is getting a kickback from this, doesn't it. How much is it? Do you know? Shouldn't you?
 
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LOL @ the haters. Let's assume Trevor manages to pull off a megamoneybomb like from 2007 and Rand rakes in 1 million in a day. If Trevor pockets 100K how is that hurting the campaign? We've turned into freaking crabs in a barrel and a circular firing squad all at once. The catherders were successful in taking over the Ron Paul movement and running it into the ground. Good job guys and gals!
 
It was voluntary to give your money to Madoff too.

Who are these mysterious websites that the 10% goes to? How and when does the money go to them and who holds the money in the meantime and how will we know how the money was distributed? What does Trevor make from doing this, besides of course rebuilding his liberty mailing list, which he can then rent to other sources? Don't forget that such mailing lists have become a huge commodity.

Trevor has gouged us more than once. For me, any money I donate to Rand during this election will be through Rand's campaign. Period.

NOTE: You might also ask Zak what he is receiving for marketing this.


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From Trevor's pitch on his website...


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What does this mean? It sure sounds like Trevor is getting a kickback from this, doesn't it. How much is it? Do you know? Shouldn't you?

I suppose we could do a vetting of the websites here when the list comes out.
 
I'll tell you exactly how this is going to work. Out of the 20 sites that "get paid" Trevor will control 15 of them and get paid majority of the 10%. No way I will ever support this,he doesn't believe in transparency and there is always an angle to everything he does. Funny that now all of the sudden he's supporting Rand.
 
It's one thing if he admits this is the case. He won't, he'll get paid secretly, collect all of the data and spam the hell out of everyone.
 
It's one thing if he admits this is the case. He won't, he'll get paid secretly, collect all of the data and spam the hell out of everyone.

So you're going to choose the option to pledge without receiving emails?
 
LOL @ the haters. Let's assume Trevor manages to pull off a megamoneybomb like from 2007 and Rand rakes in 1 million in a day. If Trevor pockets 100K how is that hurting the campaign? We've turned into freaking crabs in a barrel and a circular firing squad all at once. The catherders were successful in taking over the Ron Paul movement and running it into the ground. Good job guys and gals!

You have a very selective memory, Drake. First of all, the whole idea of a moneybomb wasn't Trevor's idea. It was someone else's here. Trevor was just the first person who managed to throw up a website; others weren't far behind. If everything would have stopped there, not much would have happened. But, tons of people here and elsewhere advertised the event. A lot of videos were made, hours upon hours were spent getting the word out to each and every RP Meetup, posts all over the internet, etc.

So, yeah, Trevor created a website. And even he seemed to lose track of the reality that the website wasn't what made the event successful. That is evidenced by his failures after RP, when he talked other campaigns into the idea that he was some magical golden boy and to hand him a lot of money for his services.
 
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