Trailing in Eventful

Yeah, Ron Paul is second to Obama in Eventful. But he is KILLING the rest of the Republican's. I did this chart just a couple days ago:



Eventfulcom.jpg
 
I think it is pure poetic justice that Mike Gravel, who has almost no money to his name, is beating every war-mongering idiot Republican on this list in terms of people who actually want to see him speak. It is a testament to the short-sightedness of the Republican establishment who would rubber stamp pretty much every caprice that George W. comes up with.

P.S. - Although the initial surge that Ron Paul had on eventful after the 2nd debate has slowed a bit, he is slowly creeping up on Obama's lead, if everyone who is on Paul's Myspace page goes over to eventful and we continue to bring in more people there at the rate we've been going then we'll overtake both Obama and Hillary Clinton in a month or so.
 
I think it is pure poetic justice that Mike Gravel, who has almost no money to his name, is beating every war-mongering idiot Republican on this list in terms of people who actually want to see him speak. It is a testament to the short-sightedness of the Republican establishment who would rubber stamp pretty much every caprice that George W. comes up with.


Yeah well, they sure aren't donating to his campaign. He has like zero money left.
 
I think it is pure poetic justice that Mike Gravel, who has almost no money to his name, is beating every war-mongering idiot Republican on this list in terms of people who actually want to see him speak. It is a testament to the short-sightedness of the Republican establishment who would rubber stamp pretty much every caprice that George W. comes up with.

P.S. - Although the initial surge that Ron Paul had on eventful after the 2nd debate has slowed a bit, he is slowly creeping up on Obama's lead, if everyone who is on Paul's Myspace page goes over to eventful and we continue to bring in more people there at the rate we've been going then we'll overtake both Obama and Hillary Clinton in a month or so.


Am I doing something wrong? I only see 6,564 people making demands for Hillary in Eventful.com.

http://eventful.com/performers?q=Hillary+Clinton

and

1239 people making demands for Mike Gravel

http://eventful.com/performers?q=Mike+Gravel
 
Am I doing something wrong? I only see 6,564 people making demands for Hillary in Eventful.com.

http://eventful.com/performers?q=Hillary+Clinton

and

1239 people making demands for Mike Gravel

http://eventful.com/performers?q=Mike+Gravel

No you've got it right, Hillary Clinton is not as well liked as the media would have you believe. She will probably still be nominated because when people do more research on Obama they'll find that he's not as good as he seems, but this unpopularity will definitely come back to haunt her.
 
Yeah well, they sure aren't donating to his campaign. He has like zero money left.

One of the reasons I haven't donated anything to his campaign (although I might make a small gesture donation with what ever extra money I have left over after I've peaked my limit with Paul) is that his party is even more hostile to the ideas that he puts forward than the Republicans are to Paul, as strange as that may sound.

The Democrat party is pretty much a core-socialist movement and anyone talking about implementing the fair tax in that party is going to get ripped apart. It sucks because if they adopted these ideas a good portion of our domestic problems would cease.
 
No you've got it right, Hillary Clinton is not as well liked as the media would have you believe. She will probably still be nominated because when people do more research on Obama they'll find that he's not as good as he seems, but this unpopularity will definitely come back to haunt her.

Sorry, I just misread your post wrong. I understand what you said now :D
 
Hey,

I was looking and it seems that if we are on the internet we need to try to catch up on eventful to Obama...

http://eventful.com/politics

There's rumors that some funny business happened. Already, it's said that Barack Obama had some help and a head start on Facebook. But his overall presence on the internet is due to his appeal and freshness. Plus, he was opposed to Iraq from the start. That's definitely a plus, especially for a Democrat. For now, he's competing for the other side, and it's actually a good thing, because he can better compete against Hillary Clinton.
 
There's rumors that some funny business happened. Already, it's said that Barack Obama had some help and a head start on Facebook. But his overall presence on the internet is due to his appeal and freshness. Plus, he was opposed to Iraq from the start. That's definitely a plus, especially for a Democrat. For now, he's competing for the other side, and it's actually a good thing, because he can better compete against Hillary Clinton.

His Youtube page was up about 7 months before Paul's was, and he had a bunch of fan pages on myspace from the 1st year of his Senate term, his high numbers are a direct result of his starting to campaign almost immediately after his election to the Senate. Just wait a couple months and we'll see if Barack can actually maintain this lead.
 
One of the reasons I haven't donated anything to his campaign (although I might make a small gesture donation with what ever extra money I have left over after I've peaked my limit with Paul) is that his party is even more hostile to the ideas that he puts forward than the Republicans are to Paul, as strange as that may sound.

The Democrat party is pretty much a core-socialist movement and anyone talking about implementing the fair tax in that party is going to get ripped apart. It sucks because if they adopted these ideas a good portion of our domestic problems would cease.

I use to like Gravel until he was asked about regulating the oil companies and flat out said no. It's one thing to have a free market and not regulate, but it's another thing to not have a free market and let the oil compainies run rough shod over us. It just sent up a red flag to me seeing how he's from oil rich Alaska. I immediately wondered whose back pocket he was in. Maybe there's more to his reasoning but I haven't heard it yet from him. Doesn't really matter at this point though because any Presidential candidate other than Ron Paul is no friend of mine now ;)
 
I use to like Gravel until he was asked about regulating the oil companies and flat out said no. It's one thing to have a free market and not regulate, but it's another thing to not have a free market and let the oil compainies run rough shod over us. It just sent up a red flag to me seeing how he's from oil rich Alaska. I immediately wondered whose back pocket he was in. Maybe there's more to his reasoning but I haven't heard it yet from him. Doesn't really matter at this point though because any Presidential candidate other than Ron Paul is no friend of mine now ;)

I would assume that his support of the Fair Tax and his views regarding economics would put him in the direction of freeing up the market so that regulations are not necessary but I don't have it in writing so I can't verify that. I'm not planning on voting for him either as I'm backing Paul 100%, however, I think that Gravel (who I like) and Kucinich (whom I don't like) will serve Paul well by discrediting the Hillary O'edwards cabal on the war issue, which will help us come general election time.

Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but I think part of our strategy should include undermining the dog and pony show that the big Dems are putting up right now.
 
There's rumors that some funny business happened. Already, it's said that Barack Obama had some help and a head start on Facebook. But his overall presence on the internet is due to his appeal and freshness. Plus, he was opposed to Iraq from the start. That's definitely a plus, especially for a Democrat. For now, he's competing for the other side, and it's actually a good thing, because he can better compete against Hillary Clinton.


Could it be Obama's MySpace that your thinking of?

He's just another thug! The post below explains why Obama has so many friends on his MySpace. He stole a Obama supporter MySpace site that the guy had been running and actively campaigning for Obama since 2004. Needless to say the guy is no longer a supporter.




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http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=159248288&blogID=259712152

Tuesday, May 01, 2007

5.01.07 What happened to the Obama profile?
Current mood: disappointed

Friends,

Many of you are probably wondering what happened to the Obama profile. The campaign, with the help of Myspace, have seized control of the profile without my consent, and are using it to refer traffic to a new profile they created. I have been blocked from having access to the profile. The campaign will probably have a different perspective on the events leading up to this, but until my personal profile is deleted, I'm going to take a stand on this. I believe what they did is just wrong, and someone should say something.

Here is an email I sent to Micah at techpresident.com. Any questions, let me know:

Thanks Micah,

I want to be careful about this, but also I think it's unfair that they deleted this community when they could have left it up as an unofficial fan site as it has been for the last two and a half years. The campaign may say that this was my decision, and this is not true.

I did want to be paid, if we were to continue working together . This was not an attempt to use this profile for commercial purposes. This was an attempt to keep working my ass off on this profile, for Barack Obama, and for the enormous community of supporters on Myspace.

Since January, as you may know, and as many in the Myspace community know, I've been working on the page around the clock. I started this profile in November of 2004 and it grew steadily since then. In January and February the media started to notice, and I began to work even harder because I reallized what an impact the Myspace could really have.

People were actually registering to vote, making contributions, asking questions, putting banners on their pages, etc. I know this because I constantly received emails about this, and I replied to every single one to thank them or point them in the right direction if they needed more information.

The campaign got involved in February and although at first it was very exciting, it quickly became clear that they just had no interest in me or my involvement. They only wanted to take control of the profile and get on with it. I bit the bullet for a while and kept working for the good of the campaign, but they quickly went from passive aggressive, to aggressive, and then eventually just rotten and dishonest.

For the past few weeks, the campaign decided it would be better if they just took control of the profile and we decided to try to come to some agreement. By this time, I didn't have quite as much respect for the campaign guys, and frankly felt like I was just being used. They knew about this profile the entire time, and really just waited until it got enough media coverage and friends request so they could step in and bully me out of it.

The last few weeks were just insane. They kept scheduling phone conferences with me, I would wake up early that day after barely sleeping the night before, I'd take time off work, etc. and each after another would be postponed at the last minute. This went on for weeks.

It got to the point where I didn't feel comfortable turning the profile over to the campaign unless they paid for it. This was largely symbolic. The same campaign that inspired me to work so hard to build this community, the same campaign whose underlying message stresses "the power of the individual to have an impact on politics", was constantly downplaying my role in this, bullying me, and a couple of other things that were just rotten and dishonest (specifically in connection with Myspace, and the campaign quashing a recent NPR interview about the profile).

In a conversation with Chris from the campaign last week or the week before, Chris suggested a one-time fee to transfer over the profile to them and that they discussed this with Myspace and they were agreeable with any arrangement we could work out. He did not suggest how much, or what sort of a fee. He did say that he needed it by the next morning so we scheduled another meeting and I stayed up all night working on a proposal that I thought would be fair to everyone. This was a positive conversation and he seemed sincere enough.

That meeting finally happened yesterday. It was clear at that time that there was no "one-time fee". I felt like it was a bit of a setup so that they could have a reason to take the profile without my consent.

I was accused of using this profile for commercial purposes. I was threatened that I would be responsible if the profile was deleted (they even followed up via email to be sure I knew it was my fault!) The conversation really was about them taking control of the profile. There was no counter offer, or anything to suggest that they had any intention of paying me anything at all.

At this point there was no way I would turn this community over to them and would rather keep it as an unofficial site and keep doing what I've been doing. I expressed this, and they said that if I did not turn the profile over to them immediately, they would delete it and all of my hard work would go to waste. They reiterated this several times, and repeated "You are the one making the decision to kill this profile". In fact, I responded each time, that I have no plans to delete this profile, and that decision would be between them and Myspace. (I even added that he sounded like Bush telling congress/senate it was their decision not to fund the troops. How hypocritical is this!)

Finally, Chris from the campaign emailed me, indicating that Myspace needed my consent to give them access to the profile. I replied that Mypace did not have my consent to grant access to the profile to anyone.

An hour or so later, I was blocked from the profile and the content was altered to redirect traffic to the new, "Official" profile. Myspace has in fact granted access to the profile without my permission.

This was not about money and I don't believe that one person who has interacted with me via the Obama profile over the past couple of years would be able to say that my efforts were anything but sincere. This was about holding a campaign to their message, about acknowledging my work, and taking this community seriously.

I think I did the right thing. I wanted a fair outcome for everyone, but unfortunately that's not what happened. In fact, I think this was enormously offensive to both me and the Myspace community. I could understand Myspace/Newscorp doing this, but didn't think Obama's campaign could have the audacity to do such a thing.

Apparently the message here is, as an individual, if you have too big of an impact, you're just a liability.

This is how Obama lost my vote, and one of his strongest supporters.

Sincerely,

-Joe Anthony

p.s. Like I said, I'm passionate about this right now. All this work, all this progress is down the drain, and I'm absolutely heart-broken.
 
I would assume that his support of the Fair Tax and his views regarding economics would put him in the direction of freeing up the market so that regulations are not necessary but I don't have it in writing so I can't verify that. I'm not planning on voting for him either as I'm backing Paul 100%, however, I think that Gravel (who I like) and Kucinich (whom I don't like) will serve Paul well by discrediting the Hillary O'edwards cabal on the war issue, which will help us come general election time.

Maybe I'm getting ahead of myself, but I think part of our strategy should include undermining the dog and pony show that the big Dems are putting up right now.

Actually, I don't think we would be getting ahead of ourselves on that.

Obama and Hillary can easily be discredited on their faux posturing to get out of the war.....which is B.S. We need to get their actual voting record on that to spread around. Even John Edwards, during their last debate, brought up the fact that Obama and Hillary were the last 2 people to vote on this last war funding bill, and never made known which way they were going to vote prior to the vote itself, nor tried to sway any of their peers to vote no on it. When they did vote, the bill was already passed and their votes didn't mean a thing.

In other words, had their votes made a difference, I myself am certain, they would have voted yes to continue funding the war.
 
I agree with Hell's Unicorn

Hell's Unicorn is right, RP's eventful numbers are much more impressive than Obama's because Obama had a bestselling book out, has been running for a year, vats of positive ink spilled for him, etc. But enthusiasm for Obama is waning now that people see there's no there there -- he's just another corrupt politician (verry corrupt in fact, although perhaps not especially so for Chicago, but that's not saying much).

RP will overtake Obama on eventful within a couple of weeks and their matrices will never cross again...check out the meetup.com numbers, for example. Obama's got less than 6,000 members and RP has over 15,000...and ten days ago, RP had about 9,000! They are growing exponentially, RP has 5 or 6 new groups a day forming and Obama has one new group forming every four or five days. About 20 times the daily growth for RP, and none of the other Republican candidates are anywhere close to Obama.

In short: the numbers don't lie, this thing is blazing all over the country and gaining steam even as the MSM and bi-partisan political establish try to keep it down. It will not be stopped.
 
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