Tracking Iowa Counties that have received Super Brochures

[harikaried]

RevPAC is not sending out the same brochure. They are not truly overlapping because the brochures are different.

Sure, but dollars can be better spent on New Hampshire or the campaign.

Is it better to have one person in Iowa to get a Super Brochure plus a RevPAC mailing while another person in New Hampshire gets no information about Ron Paul? Or to have one mailing about Ron Paul to the one person in Iowa and another person in New Hampshire?

It seems like a good number of the '08 Huckabee voters will be getting a double mailing, so that's probably worth it, but for other regions, it might be better to get widespread coverage.

 

[SchleckBros]

Sure, but dollars can be better spent on New Hampshire or the campaign.

Is it better to have one person in Iowa to get a Super Brochure plus a RevPAC mailing while another person in New Hampshire gets no information about Ron Paul? Or to have one mailing about Ron Paul to the one person in Iowa and another person in New Hampshire?

I'd rather see the same person in Iowa get two mailings. It increases the odds that they look at the material and we need to put all our eggs in one basket.

 

[parocks]

Sure, but dollars can be better spent on New Hampshire or the campaign.

Is it better to have one person in Iowa to get a Super Brochure plus a RevPAC mailing while another person in New Hampshire gets no information about Ron Paul? Or to have one mailing about Ron Paul to the one person in Iowa and another person in New Hampshire?

It seems like a good number of the '08 Huckabee voters will be getting a double mailing, so that's probably worth it, but for other regions, it might be better to get widespread coverage.

You know that these are only going to Registered Republicans who voted last November and in November 2008?

No reason why they can't use a different list. How about a list of people who voted in the last Iowa Caucus?

How about a list of 17-29 males?

 

[Eric21ND]

Does anyone know when they will have the NH mailings avalible?

I hope they wait till Iowa is complete. We actually have a good shot to win the state.

 

[Eric21ND]

Sure, but dollars can be better spent on New Hampshire or the campaign.

Is it better to have one person in Iowa to get a Super Brochure plus a RevPAC mailing while another person in New Hampshire gets no information about Ron Paul? Or to have one mailing about Ron Paul to the one person in Iowa and another person in New Hampshire?

It seems like a good number of the '08 Huckabee voters will be getting a double mailing, so that's probably worth it, but for other regions, it might be better to get widespread coverage.

I honestly don't think we can even compete in NH unless we pull off an Iowa victory first to dispel the media myths.

 

[Eric21ND]

You know that these are only going to Registered Republicans who voted last November and in November 2008?

No reason why they can't use a different list. How about a list of people who voted in the last Iowa Caucus?

How about a list of 17-29 males?

Too late in the game. We have 30 days and the clock is ticking.

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Many of you were talking about how we won Jefferson county in 08.

Got me thinking we should brochure all the counties around Jefferson - Davis, Van Buren, Keokuk, Washington, Wallepo

Since the areas around Jefferson have seen more RP signs/ and or talked to RP supporters.

So they're more likely to join the campaign based on joining the bandwagon in their local area.

 

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Jefferson border counties-
http://dyn.politico.com/iowacaucuses/iowamap-popup.html

Davis
1. Huckabee 56%
2. Paul 20.45%
3. Romney 5%

Van Buren
1.Huckabee 35%
2.Paul 21%
3.Romney 18%

Keokuk

1.Huckabee 42%
2.Romney 16%
3.Paul 14%


Washington
1.Huckabee 34%
2.Romney 22%
3. Paul 14%


Wallepo
1.Huckabee 59%
2. Romney 16%
3.Paul 10%



As you can see Dr. Paul did above average % in most states surrounding Jefferson...

Edit: I only see Keokuk and Washington left out of these.

$339 to finish Keokuk
$728 to finish Washington

 

[parocks]

Too late in the game. We have 30 days and the clock is ticking.

Do you just make stuff up?

They JUST bought that list from the Iowa SOS.

It's the same list that RPP is using.

143,903 is where RPP is at.

That's just short of half done.

It might SEEM like we've been talking about this for a while, but we really haven't.

What day did RevPac find out that RPP wouldn't be doing things RevPacs way, and RevPac would have to get their own list? Monday? Tuesday?

They have $100K, they should at least spend a hundred of it on a different list.

Because very soon, RPP will have everything covered, and there won't be any real reason to hit those EXACT people. Well, they promised they wouldn't hit those people, so maybe they can hit independents. How about independents? Independents could get the lit from RevPac and half the Republicans who voted in the General in 08 and 10 are on their way to getting theirs from RPP right now.

Clearly, if they were planning on sending 290K, and the reason why they couldn't send the DVD was because the number moved from 120K to 290K, now the number is down to 140K and will likely be down to 120K in a day or two.

There are voters that aren't being reached.

 

[Eric21ND]

Do you just make stuff up?

They JUST bought that list from the Iowa SOS.

It's the same list that RPP is using.

143,903 is where RPP is at.

That's just short of half done.

It might SEEM like we've been talking about this for a while, but we really haven't.

What day did RevPac find out that RPP wouldn't be doing things RevPacs way, and RevPac would have to get their own list? Monday? Tuesday?

They have $100K, they should at least spend a hundred of it on a different list.

Because very soon, RPP will have everything covered, and there won't be any real reason to hit those EXACT people. Well, they promised they wouldn't hit those people, so maybe they can hit independents. How about independents? Independents could get the lit from RevPac and half the Republicans who voted in the General in 08 and 10 are on their way to getting theirs from RPP right now.

Clearly, if they were planning on sending 290K, and the reason why they couldn't send the DVD was because the number moved from 120K to 290K, now the number is down to 140K and will likely be down to 120K in a day or two.

There are voters that aren't being reached.

The point being is those EXACT people are the ones most likely to vote in the caucus. Maybe if we had Bill Gates money we could mail one to every list we could find, even the democrats. Of course it would be highly wasteful and for every 1000 or 10000 lit pieces you might convince one voter. I'd rather double up the republican voters who actually caucus. You might as well fly a damn blimp if you want to target these other groups, and you'd likely have the same abysmal conversation rate the blimp had. Go re-read Glen Bradley's thread about targeting republican caucus voters, that's how he won. I would hammer Ron Paul home to them ten fold before I'd even consider trying to court non-republicans.

Now, god willing RPP will complete their entire republican list. If Rev PAC is worth their salt, they will shoot to accomplish the same with their republican list.

 

[Eric21ND]

Can anybody that's a member of the DailyPaul go comment over there and get them to maintain focus on completing ALL counties in Iowa. There's a couple people over there trying to derail our great progress in Iowa by trying to persaude people to buy Florida precincts (a state we won't ever compete in unless we win Iowa first).

One guy is claiming that "Iowa is 99.21% complete" and that simply is not true. Rev PAC and Ron Paul Products are two seperate projects. Ron Paul Products has been mailing for weeks/months. Rev PAC has yet to send out anything. All focus should be on Iowa and those 300,000 Super Voters. Nobody will take Ron seriously until we win, Iowa is our best shot at that.

This is not "duplication". These are different brochures, different products. Do you consider it "duplication' if the campaign locates a Ron Paul supporter with a phone call and then follows up with them later to ensure they attend the caucus? This is called "following up with your core constituency or those most likely to support you".

To ensure an Iowa victory:

- We need Ron Paul Products giving 110% to complete thier Super Voter list

- We also need Rev PAC to give 110% to complete their entire Super Voter list.

- Do not listen to people trying to take our eye off the ball that is a caucus victory in Iowa.

 

[degen]

I posted this:

"Iowa is NOT 99.21% complete. Ron Paul Products and RevPAC are sending out completely different brochures. The Super Brochure, which Ron Paul Products is sending out, MUST get to every Iowa super Republican voter. Like it or not this campaign will come down to Iowa. Flordia will not even MATTER if he doesn't do well in Iowa."

 

[parocks]

The point being is those EXACT people are the ones most likely to vote in the caucus. Maybe if we had Bill Gates money we could mail one to every list we could find, even the democrats. Of course it would be highly wasteful and for every 1000 or 10000 lit pieces you might convince one voter. I'd rather double up the republican voters who actually caucus. You might as well fly a damn blimp if you want to target these other groups, and you'd likely have the same abysmal conversation rate the blimp had. Go re-read Glen Bradley's thread about targeting republican caucus voters, that's how he won. I would hammer Ron Paul home to them ten fold before I'd even consider trying to court non-republicans.

Now, god willing RPP will complete their entire republican list. If Rev PAC is worth their salt, they will shoot to accomplish the same with their republican list.

RPP will hit every single Republican "supervoter" with that list. Job well done. I would argue that it would be better not to hit the same exact people twice with a similar message, but hit more people with the message.

Why not hit that original list of 120K caucus goers?

You think this is a magic formula? If it's such a magic formula, why did it change on Saturday? A week ago, we thought Revpac was sending to 120K caucus voters from 2008. Why not use that caucus list? That's the best list. And then throw in some other list.

Reaching more people seems to be the better idea.

Note: I'm not claiming that lit not be distributed, although I think, because RPP is sending out what RevPac was supposed to send out, and RevPac is not sending out what they got funds to send out, the money should be used in part to build ground game.

Nobody donated to distribute those specific flyers anyway, so not mailing something someone didn't pay to send is not a problem.

This isn't a really bad problem to have, actually, we have too much money. We wanted to hit 120K first. We hit that goal. RPP is halfway to hitting their goal, which is to send the brochure RevPac was supposed to send to 293K Republicans who vote in big Generals. And RevPac still has their money.

RevPac is in the bonus, and I just think that sending the same basic thing, in the same way, to exactly the same people, isn't the best way to go.

 

[parocks]

I posted this:

"Iowa is NOT 99.21% complete. Ron Paul Products and RevPAC are sending out completely different brochures. The Super Brochure, which Ron Paul Products is sending out, MUST get to every Iowa super Republican voter. Like it or not this campaign will come down to Iowa. Flordia will not even MATTER if he doesn't do well in Iowa."

Here's the logic they're using over there to argue that Iowa is 99.21% done. They believe that when you combine the precincts that are already sold on RPP (50%) with the money that RevPac has, that they raised in order to hit that same list with lit, then they're at 99.21% complete.

I see their point.

 

[Eric21ND]

I posted this:

"Iowa is NOT 99.21% complete. Ron Paul Products and RevPAC are sending out completely different brochures. The Super Brochure, which Ron Paul Products is sending out, MUST get to every Iowa super Republican voter. Like it or not this campaign will come down to Iowa. Flordia will not even MATTER if he doesn't do well in Iowa."

Excellent! Thank you! Let's all focus and finish Iowa before we go off half cocked

 

[Eric21ND]

Here's the logic they're using over there to argue that Iowa is 99.21% done. They believe that when you combine the precincts that are already sold on RPP (50%) with the money that RevPac has, that they raised in order to hit that same list with lit, then they're at 99.21% complete.

I see their point.

Assumptions are the mother of all fuck ups. This is too damn important to get complacent and set Iowa on the back burner because, "Oh Rev PAC is doing something."

No assumptions.

No mistakes.

 

[Eric21ND]

I'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. I'm still pushing Ron Paul Products to finish their 300,000 list as soon as physically possible. We had a great outpouring of support today. We completed 16 counties! Unbelievable!!

 

[Eric21ND]

Map for Thursday December 1st 16 new counties complete...Wow!!

**Big thanks to Daily Paul and GHoeberX**


- Mahaska (Probably the most important county in all of Iowa)

- Wapello (Arguably the 2nd most important county in Iowa)

- Davis

- Marion

- O'Brien

- Appanoose

- Monroe

- Sioux (Huge republican stronghold county, lots of voters here!)

- Lucas

- Kossuth

- Hancock

- Grundy

- Winnebago

- Clarke

- Henry

- Palo Alto

 

[PatriotOne]

Map for Thursday December 1st 16 new counties complete...Wow!!

**Big thanks to Daily Paul and GHoeberX**


- Mahaska (Probably the most important county in all of Iowa)

- Wapello (Arguably the 2nd most important county in Iowa)

- Davis

- Marion

- O'Brien

- Appanoose

- Monroe

- Sioux (Huge republican stronghold county, lots of voters here!)

- Lucas

- Kossuth

- Hancock

- Grundy

- Winnebago

- Clarke

- Henry

- Palo Alto

Awesome. Thanks for keeping us updated on the progress Eric. I check this thread several times a day and it never fails to excite me. And kudo's to the person who came up with the state graphic showing completed counties. Great visual. Best money I have spent in a long time contributing to this effort .

 

[Lmata]

Different voters should be targeted. These super voters are already being contacted at least twice. I'm sure the campaign has been sending their own materials to them. They really don't need a second brochure imo.

I can't wait to see how the precinct that I bought in Wapello Co. does in the caucus! Wish I had more to spend.