Townhall.com wants YOUR opinion - "Is it Ron Paul or nobody?"

They already alienated us and they can't win without us. It is either Paul or Obama, they need to choose.

THIS IS EXACTLY what we NEED TO EMPHASIZE!!!

Theyre the ones who keep saying "anyone but Obama". So vote for Ron Paul!

Let them know theres no one else for us and we now hold about 15% nationally and growing!!!

>>>WE HAVE THEM<<<
 
We recently showed our power when we responded to the attacks on Kelly Clarkson. They now realize what we have known for a while and that is the GOP can't win without us. Now they're trying to figure out what to do about it. LOL.

This is an opportunity to get more people on board. Use your social networks like never before and spread the truth about Ron's foreign policy, as I believe this is the only obstacle for the media-led. They need to understand that the world is better off with a President who wants Peace. Our job is combat the propaganda arm (MSM) of the war machine, by visiting as many sites as possible and disseminating facts with credible links to back them up.

Someone posted in a thread of mine that Ron needs to outline his foreign policy the way he outlined his economic policy. This should be done ASAP.

If we want the older generation on board, we need to convince them of Ron's foreign policy. End of story.
 
Sure there is.

At least with a Republican Obamacare can be gone, there might be decent SC justices, and the general socialism of Barack will be gone.

Would a Romney shrink government? No. I don't expect it to grow nearly as rapidly as Obama either.

It is in my interest to vote for the person that can bring about the best scenario for me. Excitement on a forum is nice, but I have a life to live.

Georgia, I have done what you are talking about doing, plenty, in my life. I will not do it again. Don't you see that this is how we got into this mess? Both so-called sides are essentially the very same thing at the top of the power structure. There is very little practical difference between Obama and Romney. There really is not.

Also consider that if people elect Romney, there will not be a Republican challenger in 2016. That means Rand will not have a chance in 2016. I can almost promise you that Romney will not improve a thing. There will be more wars and the economy will collapse even further. So, electing Romney would put off any real chance of change until at least 2020.

Are you willing to risk it? I'm not.

So, for me, it will be Ron Paul in 2012.

Note: Why are we even talking about losing? It's way too early for that. We still have a chance!!!
 
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I think Townhall has posted full-page ads, so to speak, for Ron Paul, too. I think the campaigns can buy space for that.
 
Is anyone else posting over there? I go back to see what others have responded to my posts and find that my posts have disappeared ESPECIALLY when I make a good point or use quotes from the founding fathers.
 
Is anyone else posting over there? I go back to see what others have responded to my posts and find that my posts have disappeared ESPECIALLY when I make a good point or use quotes from the founding fathers.

I have posted a lot over there and my posts are still there.
 
Good post.

Even later than 2020.

Consider: Willard for 8 years, then 8 years of the "other flavor".

You might be looking at 2028 before Rand has a reasonable shot.

No One But Paul

Georgia, I have done what you are talking about doing, plenty, in my life. I will not do it again. Don't you see that this is how we got into this mess? Both so-called sides are essentially the very same thing at the top of the power structure. There is very little practical difference between Obama and Romney. There really is not.

Also consider that if people elect Romney, there will not be a Republican challenger in 2016. That means Rand will not have a chance in 2016. I can almost promise you that Romney will not improve a thing. There will be more wars and the economy will collapse even further. So, electing Romney would put off any real chance of change until at least 2020.

Are you willing to risk it? I'm not.

So, for me, it will be Ron Paul in 2012.

Note: Why are we even talking about losing? It's way too early for that. We still have a chance!!!
 
Here is my comment that I posted:

"Here is my 2 cents. President Obama received a ton of campaign contribution money from Wallstreet in 2007. President Obama has many Goldman Sachs employees on his administration. Same crap different day.

Mitt Romney's largest campaign contributor to date is Wallstreet and the Goldman Sachs crew. Same crap different day.

I will vote for no one except for Ron Paul. If I have to write him in, then I will. I and many others are sick of the crap!"
 
Freedom is more important than my own self interests.

THIS^^. What's more, freedom is an *absolutely* necessary pre-condition in order for us to be able to pursue our own self-interests in the first place.

The absence of liberty is the chief enabling factor that allows some (the politically well-connected, for example) to pursue their own self-interests at the expense of everyone else's.

By supporting *any* of those (such as Obama, Romney, Gingrich, Santorum, etc.) who WILL work to contract rather than expand our freedoms, you WILL be working against your own self-interests.

This is true regardless of the fact that X may be "better" than (or "not as bad as") Y when it comes to this, that or the other particular issue/aspect.

Ron Paul is the ONLY one of the candidates who, as President, will work to INCREASE liberty. ALL of the others will work to DECREASE it - in many ways & forms. And that is ALL that is needed to be known.

Attempts to parse out which of those other candidates would be "least bad" is so much utilitarian-calculus-style bafflegab. Furthermore, considering the fact that such determinations necessarily depend on assessing & comparing numerous (and nebulous) counter-factuals, claims to the effect that Romney would be "better" than Obama are simply gibberish.

Dismiss all this as "too theoretical" or "impractical" if you will, but !'ll wager your course won't get you any more than it got for the people who did *exactly* the same thing (i.e., voting for what they imagined was the "lesser of evils") in the last election ... or the election before that ... or the election before that ... or so on. (Now, THAT'S what I call being "impractical" & "too theoretical"!!)

So go ahead, vote for the Republican nominee - whoever that may end up being. And If it isn't Ron Paul, see what that ends up getting you in the end.
 
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send them letter...get mad....give hell....

Over sending out an advertisement?

Look guys, CHOOSE YOUR BATTLES. This is not one. Just setup your email so that everything from townhall.com goes to an email file folder that you have setup for this junk.
 
THIS^^. What's more, freedom is an *absolutely* necessary pre-condition in order for us to be able to pursue our own self-interests in the first place.

The absence of liberty is the chief enabling factor that allows some (the politically well-connected, for example) to pursue their own self-interests at the expense of everyone else's.

i received this email yesterday evening, and i'm going to share it. i suggest we pass it around:

What is it about Ron Paul that inspires such extremes? Such maddening support on the one hand, and such fear and loathing on the other? I can give the answer in one word: Soul.


The essential soul of a human being is by definition free. The idea that men are free as determined by God is a concept that is foreign to most men. This is because most men want to control others, to take away their freedom. This is usually referred to as the drive for power. The drive for power is antithetical to freedom because power means the ability to control others. There is only one legitimate thing that power can and should be used for, whether it be military, legislative, or executive power. That is, to legalize freedom.


Ron Paul doesn’t want to be President to “give” me freedom. He doesn’t own my freedom and he didn’t give it to me. The only reason Ron Paul wants to be President is to stop punishing people for using their freedom that is rightfully theirs. He wants no power. This is clear to anyone who listens to him speak.


There are two kinds of human beings. Those who want power, and those who want freedom. You can tell which one’s which very easily. Those who want freedom are straight-edged. They are consistent, principled, and you can feel their human soul when they speak to you. There’s a continuum out there of human souls somewhere in spiritual cyberspace, and when you come into contact with one of these souls, you know immediately, because souls are by definition free. You sense sincerity, realness, consistency, a free human being. If you’re a man who seeks freedom and you come into contact with a real human soul, you become instantly addicted and you swallow up anything you can get your hands on. You want to unite immediately, no matter what you disagree on. There are people in the freedom movement that don’t exactly like Israel, especially me being a “settler” and I don’t care. If they want freedom, I sense it and my human drive for individualism suddenly turns into an intense desire to unite into a collective – but a collective of free individuals. It’s a beautiful dialectic, and it doesn’t matter what we agree or disagree on, as long as we agree on freedom.


You get hooked on Ron Paul and you desperately seek more and more, any video you can find from the past, any speeches you missed, anything he said that you haven’t heard yet, even though you’ve heard it a thousand times already in different words. You can’t help yourself. The voracious hunger to be able to use your God-given freedom takes you over entirely. It’s like you suddenly realize you’re human and the Divine Image with which God created you comes alive and catches fire.


But something else happens to you. Once you get hooked on Ron Paul, you can no longer bear to listen to a man who wants power, and you become instantly disgusted when they start saying words. Before, they were just boring. Now they’re revolting. Listening to Romney or Gingrich or Bush or Obama makes you sick and you don’t know how Ron Paul gets through those debates without getting nauseous. You see a political veneer in these politicians that’s so transparent it’s like a ghost flapping its ethereal tongue at you. You can’t bear it.


What’s so maddening about hearing Romney or Gingrich talk is that there’s someone standing there saying things, but there’s no soul in it. These are not free men. These are power men. Not that Romney or Gingrich don’t have souls. They do. They are men just like you and I. But they have practically forfeited their souls to try and attain power, to control others with spin and talking points and contradictory statements like “I want to cut the budget and expand the military!” and they’ll say it with a polished tone and a straight face, just like a soulless recording. Their humanity is so buried under the mountain of lies they have told themselves, that neither they themselves nor you can even sense their souls in the human continuum. The scene of a human body speaking but no soul communicating can drive a free man mad.


The reason that Ron Paul never goes down in the polls is that he’s not “convincing” people in the everyday sense that he’s right on whatever issue. He’s activating human souls, lighting spiritual fires one by one speaking about freedom. Once a soul gets activated, and the man realizes that he IS free no matter what people do to him or tell him, there is no turning back. The other candidates are trying to turn heads with snappy one-liners that sound cool. Slaves follow these one-liners like mobs, and follow each other from candidate to candidate. Slowly but surely, Ron Paul activates a few of the individual souls in the mob as they bob from snappy comeback to snappy comeback and he goes up in the polls.


Yet, we cannot expect every man woman and child to understand or get excited about the message of liberty. In fact, most just can’t handle it. Being truly free is as terrifying as it is electrifying.



Not everyone can handle the message of freedom. It’s too frightening for some people, and some are just too enslaved. Those are the people that despise Ron Paul, the same types who rebelled against Moses in the desert and attempted to go back to Egypt. Freedom is too much for them and they can’t handle the Divine gift. They want and need someone to control them. Their souls have been too battered by slavery, taxation, and wars. —Rafi
 
Not only is it Ron Paul or nobody, if the republican party doesn't do the right thing soon such as supporting the Ron Paul movement, I shall work to help ANY group that works to deny them an election win, local, state and federal. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
 
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