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Trump told chief of staff Hitler ‘did a lot of good things’, book says

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/06/donald-trump-hitler-michael-bender-book

Martin Pengelly Wed 7 Jul 2021 09.24 EDT

On a visit to Europe to mark the 100th anniversary of the end of the first world war, Donald Trump insisted to his then chief of staff, John Kelly: “Well, Hitler did a lot of good things.”

The remark from the former US president on the 2018 trip, which reportedly “stunned” Kelly, a retired US Marine Corps general, is reported in a new book by Michael Bender of the Wall Street Journal.

Frankly, We Did Win This Election has been widely trailed ahead of publication next week. The Guardian obtained a copy.

Bender reports that Trump made the remark during an impromptu history lesson in which Kelly “reminded the president which countries were on which side during the conflict” and “connected the dots from the first world war to the second world war and all of Hitler’s atrocities”.

Bender is one of a number of authors to have interviewed Trump since he was ejected from power.

In a statement a Trump spokesperson, Liz Harrington, said: “This is totally false. President Trump never said this. It is made-up fake news, probably by a general who was incompetent and was fired.”

But Bender says unnamed sources reported that Kelly “told the president that he was wrong, but Trump was undeterred”, emphasizing German economic recovery under Hitler during the 1930s.

“Kelly pushed back again,” Bender writes, “and argued that the German people would have been better off poor than subjected to the Nazi genocide.”

Bender adds that Kelly told Trump that even if his claim about the German economy under the Nazis after 1933 were true, “you cannot ever say anything supportive of Adolf Hitler. You just can’t.”

Trump ran into considerable trouble on the centennial trip to Europe, even beyond his usual conflicts with other world leaders.

A decision to cancel a visit to an American cemetery proved controversial. Trump was later reported to have called US soldiers who died in the war “losers” and “suckers”.

Kelly, whose son was killed in Afghanistan in 2010, left the White House in early 2019. He has spoken critically of Trump since, reportedly telling friends the president he served was “the most flawed person I have ever met in my life”.

Bender writes that Kelly did his best to overcome Trump’s “stunning disregard for history”.

“Senior officials described his understanding of slavery, Jim Crow, or the Black experience in general post-civil war as vague to non-existent,” he writes. “But Trump’s indifference to Black history was similar to his disregard for the history of any race, religion or creed.”

Concern over the rise of the far right in the US grew during Trump’s time in power and continues, as he maintains a grip on a Republican party determined to obstruct investigations of the deadly 6 January assault on the US Capitol by supporters seeking to overturn his election defeat.

(Lying media Marxists lie. - AF)

Trump has made positive remarks about far-right and white supremacist groups.

During a presidential debate in 2020, Trump was asked if he would denounce white supremacists and militia groups. He struggled with the answer and eventually told the far-right Proud Boys group to “stand back and stand by”.

In 2017, in the aftermath of a neo-Nazi march in Virginia which earned supportive remarks from Trump, the German magazine Stern used on its cover an illustration of Trump giving a Nazi salute while wrapped in the US flag. Its headline: “Sein Kampf” – his struggle.
 
Bender says unnamed sources reported that Kelly “told the president that he was wrong, but Trump was undeterred”, emphasizing German economic recovery under Hitler during the 1930s.

That should be all the evidence anyone needs. "Unnamed sources", which is just as good as "unnamed officials".
 
Bender reports that Trump made the remark during an impromptu history lesson in which Kelly “reminded the president which countries were on which side during the conflict” and “connected the dots from the first world war to the second world war and all of Hitler’s atrocities”.

Bender is one of a number of authors to have interviewed Trump since he was ejected from power.

In a statement a Trump spokesperson, Liz Harrington, said: “This is totally false. President Trump never said this. It is made-up fake news, probably by a general who was incompetent and was fired.”

But Bender says unnamed sources reported that Kelly “told the president that he was wrong, but Trump was undeterred”, emphasizing German economic recovery under Hitler during the 1930s.

“Kelly pushed back again,” Bender writes, “and argued that the German people would have been better off poor than subjected to the Nazi genocide.”

Bender adds that Kelly told Trump that even if his claim about the German economy under the Nazis after 1933 were true, “you cannot ever say anything supportive of Adolf Hitler. You just can’t.”

What a load of Marxist propaganda and conditioning. Note what is really going on here. Even if Trump off-handedly and insensitively said that Hitler led an economic recovery, how is that so controversial? Hitler also did many very bad things. Did Trump deny that? If Hitler had eggs Benedict for breakfast, does that make eggs Benedict evil for all of eternity? Thus, anything can be demonized by saying “Hitler did that”.

But it doesn't stop with Hitler. That was but one example. Now we have the Founding Fathers and everything they ever did being demonized because “slavery existed”. “Declaration of Independence”? Evil. “Bills of Rights”? Evil.

The Marxist propagandists love to manipulate language and create meaningless linkages and guilts by association. It is invalid pseudo-logic, used to demonize anything and anyone that they choose. And it never applies to them. Some animals are more equal.
 
What a load of Marxist propaganda and conditioning. Note what is really going on here. Even if Trump off-handedly and insensitively said that Hitler led an economic recovery, how is that so controversial? Hitler also did many very bad things. Did Trump deny that? If Hitler had eggs Benedict for breakfast, does that make eggs Benedict evil for all of eternity? Thus, anything can be demonized by saying “Hitler did that”.

But it doesn't stop with Hitler. That was but one example. Now we have the Founding Fathers and everything they ever did being demonized because “slavery existed”. “Declaration of Independence”? Evil. “Bills of Rights”? Evil.

The Marxist propagandists love to manipulate language and create meaningless linkages and guilts by association. It is invalid pseudo-logic, used to demonize anything and anyone that they choose. And it never applies to them. Some animals are more equal.

Bing-fucking-go.
 
What a load of Marxist propaganda and conditioning. Note what is really going on here. Even if Trump off-handedly and insensitively said that Hitler led an economic recovery, how is that so controversial? Hitler also did many very bad things. Did Trump deny that? If Hitler had eggs Benedict for breakfast, does that make eggs Benedict evil for all of eternity? Thus, anything can be demonized by saying “Hitler did that”.

But it doesn't stop with Hitler. That was but one example. Now we have the Founding Fathers and everything they ever did being demonized because “slavery existed”. “Declaration of Independence”? Evil. “Bills of Rights”? Evil.

The Marxist propagandists love to manipulate language and create meaningless linkages and guilts by association. It is invalid pseudo-logic, used to demonize anything and anyone that they choose. And it never applies to them. Some animals are more equal.


Yup!
 
It is the dogma of political correctness. How dare you state something which may even be true, if it is associated with someone like Hitler. It is definitely a barrier to truth-seeking.

However I don't associate this with Marxism. I associate this with the hyper-ambitious soulless careerists who are used to standing on whatever pile of dead bodies it takes to get themselves ahead in the elite ruling class. Basically everyone from the media and in government loves a way to put other people down as not following the proper etiquette, while they constantly lie to people and obscure the truth. They are the same people constantly trying to lie us into wars and take away our freedoms. They enjoy ruling over us and policing our speech because without it, they'd be without a distraction and forced to deal with their own inner voids.
 
Noone is perfect. So what if Hitler got a couple things wrong. He was probably an otherwise decent guy.
 
Noone is perfect. So what if Hitler got a couple things wrong. He was probably an otherwise decent guy.

He was a pretty good artist..

paintings-by-adolf-hitler-32.jpg
 
He was a pretty good artist..

paintings-by-adolf-hitler-32.jpg

Not bad.

Ironically, it is the left that always pushes the idea that it is “artists” that need to be promoted and that will save mankind. Maybe that goes without saying, as it is artists that usually create much of the propaganda, especially via the “arts”. How much money did theaters and Hollywood get from the mega stimulus-relief-infrastructure bills?

Maybe Hitler is a good example of what putting artists in charge gets you. Was Stalin an actor? Mao a flute player? Lenin a guitar player?
 
Didn't Hitler design or have the idea for the Volkswagen Beetle?

Didn't Obama make GM vehicles government owned in the 2009 bailout?
 
On alt media sites the agenda has been for the last year or so to introduce a 'new conspiracy theory' to muddy the waters so to speak. It goes that 'the evil satanic pedophilic elite' have changed the history around WWII, Hitler and the Nazi regime. Hitler was really a super hero that was trying to save the world from the evil elite. I'm not kidding, I've even heard people having conversations on cell phones talking about this, it's how I came across it actually. So, it's a perfect storm to sell the racist, nazi right coming back to life story being put forth by the media. And of course, Trump is playing his part exactly as he's supposed to.
 
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Huh? How is pointing out a historical point, being gullible or applauding socialism?



The federal government has owned more GM vehicles than you could possibly count. But no, they haven't nationalized them all. Yet.

My point is the hypocrisy holds no bounds; no media talkinghead's asses caught on fire when Obama made GM, government motors. Amazing how this kind of socialism creeps right in with not a lot of outrage from the usual suspects?
 
Huh? How is pointing out a historical point, being gullible or applauding socialism?

The historical point would be clear if you'd click on the link I provided and peruse the thread. Hitler didn't design shit. Ferdinand Porsche he was not, and no one wants you to believe he was but the ghosts of the Nazi propagandists you're echoing.

If reading the damned thread is too much for you, here it is in a nutshell: Germany didn't need the VW, it had the DKW. Germany didn't get the VW from Hitler, just a war which nearly destroyed it. And Hitler's grand contribution to the design was, essentially, saying, "Ooh, I like the headlights of that Czech Tatra, steal those and put them on it."
 
Sometimes the news media gets it right and not sure why this is suddenly far fetched or some conspiracy, old news really. The man studied him and used the knowledge to play the masses to win.

Coming directly from his ex-wife.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/07/trump-praised-hitler-to-john-kelly-new-book-claims.html
Vanity Fair magazine reported in 1990 that Ivana Trump told her lawyer that Donald Trump on occasion “reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, ‘My New Order,’ which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.”

When the Vanity Fair reporter asked Trump himself if Trump’s cousin had given him that book, the magazine reported that “Trump hesitated.”

“Who told you that?” Trump asked, according to the magazine.

Trump then said: “Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of ‘Mein Kampf,’ and he’s a Jew.”

Davis told Vanity Fair: “I did give him a book about Hitler ... But it was ‘My New Order,’ Hitler’s speeches, not ’Mein Kampf.′”

“I thought he would find it interesting,” Davis said. “I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”

Trump told the magazine, ″If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”
 
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The historical point would be clear if you'd click on the link I provided and peruse the thread. Hitler didn't design $#@!. Ferdinand Porsche he was not, and no one wants you to believe he was but the ghosts of the Nazi propagandists you're echoing.

If reading the damned thread is too much for you, here it is in a nutshell: Germany didn't need the VW, it had the DKW. Germany didn't get the VW from Hitler, just a war which nearly destroyed it. And Hitler's grand contribution to the design was, essentially, saying, "Ooh, I like the headlights of that Czech Tatra, steal those and put them on it."

I went to the thread and read it. Bloviate much? mea culpa, Hitler proposed an idea.

Probably the most popular car in the world, Beetle had fascinating past. It was proposed by Adolf Hitler to make peoples car that can fit 5 people and deliver speed of 100km/h (62mph) later known as “Volks-Wagen” (“People’s Car”). Beetle was designed by Ferdinand Porsche founder of automotive design company, which became known as the Porsche Buro. Ferdinand also designed German tanks, Tiger I and Tiger II. The first Porsche ever build was Porsche 356 created by Ferry Porsche son of Ferdinand Porsche. Porsche currently owns 31% of the Volkswagen car company.
https://www.interestingfacts.org/fact/hitler-porsche-and-beetle
 
Everyone who thinks that the USA's Gun Control Act of 1968 is a good thing must believe that Hitler did at least one good thing, since that law was based on a Nazi law that was put in place in Hitler's tenure as Führer.
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/GCA_68.htm

Naturally, supporters of this law include Trump. But I bet they also include General Kelly, Martin Pengelly, and the unnamed sources that article relied on.
 
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