Told ya... Bitcoins are not safe.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324373204578374611351125202.html?mod=djemalertNEWS


I still think that if you're in bitcoins you should get out of it at these highs and move into physical precious metals.

The Feds will kill it.

Competition cannot be allowed!

Okay. I just read the same article and came to the conclusion that the Federal government has now recognized the legitimacy of Bitcoins because they have admitted it is currency. This doesn't affect anyone except the big bitcoin clearinghouses, which would have to deal with this anyway. So sure, if I want to use bitinstant to buy over $10,000 off Amazon.com (or some other merchant) I'll be subject to federal scrutiny. And?
 
Bitcoins crashed to almost zero a while ago (2 years now) and a student was able to buy them all on a 0.01 buy stop.That trade was then broken.Exchanges/inrefaces make bitcoin and any other electronic currency a piece of cr#p.It will be adopted however as it is exactly what Governments want.They can unplug you at any time.


I cannot disagree with this in any substantive way. High tech is precisely what They want because at the end of the day They control it. Such currencies are worthless if they cannot be exchanged and They control the transport medium. Those who ignorantly believe the internet is "free" have not traveled in my circles. I was an MTS at Bell Labs for 7 years. I designed things used every day by billions of people. I tested them and I managed projects and was up to my eyelids in the regulatory world of the FCC and DoJ. Believe you me that there is no such thing as a private network where anything travels over either core- or even edge-switches. It is all regulated up the wazoo and the feds can clamp down any time they please, more so today than ever before. To believe that any of this technology is by necessity capable of defeating Their prying eyes and grabby fingers is naive to the point of outright willful stupidity. If YOU become a point of interest to Them, your encryptions will be intercepted and cracked. You really have no protections worth the mention.

HELLO.

Or do we think that They respect the medium and your rights as sacrosanct?

Bitcoins are a cute idea and may even become a financial lingua franca for trade. But if that happens you had best know that the Bitcoin Foundation will no longer be their own men, assuming that they now in fact are. They will be effectively owned, lock, stock, and barrel by Them.

So long as They exist and possess the means to control behavior, no medium of exchange will be safe or anonymous. If onion routers and cryptograqphic devices come to place a real drag upon Their racket, They will eliminate their use. Seizure and examination of the traffic passing through routers and other network elements is the easiest thing and it is done 24x7. Pass the right law; announce the right policy and rules, and all that will come to a crashing halt when the providers are raided and sent to prison. It will take but one of those and the rest will fall into line in a heartbeat. The rest can be done on a piecemeal basis, one no-knock raid at a time. All the legal instruments necessary to allow for such raids are already in place. They don't need warrants. They don't need probable cause. They only need an assertion of possible terrorist activity and the waters part for Them. That is the America in which we currently exist.

Do not fool yourselves. These klowns are deadly serious about this globalism business and they will not be trod upon by the likes of us. A bite here, a nibble there and before you know it the nation is rendered unrecognizable from even its currently mangled form.
 
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From that article:

article said:
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FinCEN’s position as it relates to bitcoin can be summed up as follows:

1. A person may spend money to purchase bitcoin or mine bitcoin and then exchange the currency for goods and/or services without having to register with FinCEN as an MSB.

2. If a person receives real money in exchange for their bitcoin they MAY have to register with FinCEN.

3. If a miner exchanges their mined bitcoin for real money they MUST register with FinCEN.

4. Anyone transacting bitcoin on someone else’s behalf MUST register with FinCEN.

This framework would wildly expand the reach of FinCEN and the BSA, and would be infeasable for many, if not most, members of the bitcoin community to comply with. An individual or micro-business cannot be expected to create a robust AML/KYC program anytime they sell 1 or 100 bitcoin on an exchange or in-person. The BSA was never intended to apply this broadly and reach this far into people’s everyday lives. Perhaps a little more guidance is needed.
 
It think they are on borrowed time, until these BitInstant's and other compaines that migrate your cash deposits, are in fact regulated or co-opted. The game is good now, but like all things, it gets clamped down.

As there was a time Paypal wasn't owned by Ebay, and so on. It just takes time for this freedom to be overtaken.
 
look, common sense should tell anyone with a sound mind
that "bitcoin" is a pyramid scheme. Seriously from what I see,
the only people pushing these fictional units are those who are,
for now at least, profiting in Real Terms (not bitcoin terms).

Shed those FRNs for real assets ? Of course ! Almost any asset.
"bitcoins" are NOT an asset.
 
A few thoughts.

Bitcoin is open source, so it really doesn't matter what a developer says. He could say he his largest donor is Rothschild, wouldn't make a difference. It is 100% decentralized transparent down to the transactions themselves. And if by some distant chance the market loses faith in Bitcoin for whatever reason there are dozens of competitors already vying to take its place.

When standard practices are followed, it would still take the most powerful computers in the world billions of years to brute force one key. Ditto for anyone who takes the extra step of encrypting their hard drive with in case of confiscation. Faced with both tasks, you're looking at longer than the age of the universe. Also, the government uses the same standard technologies for highly sensitive national security communication. So even if they were to find some kind of backdoor attack (highly unlikely), they would not be able to use it in a prosecution without blowing their cover. And governments worldwide are passing laws making it illegal if you don't hand over passwords for such encryption to law enforcement, which would not be necessary if it were crackable. Real plausible deniability ("Whoops, I lost it") in the face of such a prosecution has yet to be tested in court.

The fact is Bitcoin has become the perfect money laundering machine, and that is what is driving its success. Right now, with laws and regulations like this, they are starting to attack the entry and exit points (exchanging local currency to btc and vice versa), but even that cannot hold up against a determined market. People are already starting to set up in-person exchanges especially in economically oppressed countries like Iran. At this point the activity really starts to mirror the war on drugs, and we all know how successful that always is.

The weak points, as with most technology, are humans themselves. The more popular Bitcoin becomes, the more people using it who are not crypto geeks and therefore not being meticulous about following best practices, and therefore leaving themselves in a compromised position. But for those who know what they are doing, the only way to truly stop the juggernaut is to unplug the internet or outlaw encryption altogether, either of which would be a total SHTF scenario anyway. It's like a hydra -- cut off one head, two more grow back. We see it over and over, the war on drugs, P2P filesharing, etc.

Bitcoin's inherent value is privacy and security. If that is compromised, then it becomes worthless, but for now, considering the current state of technology, slowing of Moore's law etc., I'd be very hesitant to label what we are seeing right now a bubble.
 
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