To the Gary Johnson supporters, hear me out.

The RNC would like nothing better then for you to write in Ron Paul because it doesn't count.They don't want your votes to be counted cause that would show how many votes they lost.Gary Johnson2012!!!!!
 
I really like the idea put forth by poster tangentforronpaul. Have Ron run as an Indy and let him and Gary have their own debates and right before the election have Ron drop out and endorse Gary. What a huge boost to a third candidate that would be.
 
I really like the idea put forth by poster tangentforronpaul. Have Ron run as an Indy and let him and Gary have their own debates and right before the election have Ron drop out and endorse Gary. What a huge boost to a third candidate that would be.

That sounds good and all but first you have to have willing candidates, second you have to not destroy each other in the process and 3rd but probably most important you have to get invited or have the media show up for it to matter
 
It's too late to run 3rd party in many states, and Paul would not appear on the ballots. Many states do not count write-ins. Ron is better than Gary, but Run is done now. If he officially withdraws, maybe that will make it easier for you. If we can at least get 5% for a 3rd party, maybe that will help wake people up next election.

Ron wanted some spotlight so people could hear him - he had to do this as a Republican. In reality, Republicans cannot be conformed. We are libertarians - quite a difference. For the future, I would focus on what we actually are - libertarians - and with growing numbers people will at least realize there are other parties around.
 
It's too late to run 3rd party in many states, and Paul would not appear on the ballots. Many states do not count write-ins. Ron is better than Gary, but Run is done now. If he officially withdraws, maybe that will make it easier for you. If we can at least get 5% for a 3rd party, maybe that will help wake people up next election.

Ron wanted some spotlight so people could hear him - he had to do this as a Republican. In reality, Republicans cannot be conformed. We are libertarians - quite a difference. For the future, I would focus on what we actually are - libertarians - and with growing numbers people will at least realize there are other parties around.
I've been GOP since I could vote, and looking at LP candidates, I like some in the lower levels, but I think their presidential candidates are going the same direction as the GOP. I love the IDEA of a 'party of principle' but that isn't what I see when I look there. I don't mean that as an attack, it is just why that path doesn't interest me.
 
That's insane. He's not on the ballot and doesn't want this anymore. He has passed the torch to Rand.

I don't really like this thread, so I'll post something irrelevant that the mods don't like

The mods like ridiculous babble. They don't like constructive ideas. Granted, some of the ideas are over the top. There was a good, interesting discussion going on, and it deleted. Not moved to hot topics, but deleted. it was about what the delegates should do tonight. Because there will be a Romney speech, and only the looniest of the Ron Paul supporters won't just let him sit down and relax, it's a relevant post.

Yes, many of the things I mention are way over the top, and could get you arrested.

here goes.
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ROMNEY'S SPEECH MUST BE RUINED

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This is our opportunity.

We have the moral high ground. We can severely damage his campaign.

1020-11pm - from the start of Romney's speech to the end of the balloon drop

Romney NEEDS to be punished severely.

It is the RIGHT thing to do.

What we're trying to do is HARM ROMNEY. So when people are thinking about "what to do" and come up with some passive/aggressive solution, think, does this hurt Romney.

Ron Paul isn't going to win this in 2012. That's over. They cheated. Now is the Blowback.

They need to learn what Blowback is.

And we need to teach them that between 1020 - 11

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URINE GLOWS UNDER UV LIGHT - PREMARK SIGNS.

This is useful - can be crafted into a privacy tent. If you want to prepare something on the floor and you don't want people to know what you're doing.
It will seem extremely odd if you do that. If it's on camera, people at home would think "that is weird I don't like that, less likely to vote for Romney. The point though, is that it has a lot of utility. You could run and see wearing one of those. Duct tape too.
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1952 Taft vs Eisenhower

There was at least one fist fight on the floor. That was after Senator Everett Dirksen, pro-Taft spellbinder from Illinois,
pointed a finger at Governor Thomas E. Dewey of New York and implored that Eisenhower leader to "reexamine your heart."

"We followed you before and you took us down the road to defeat," Dirksen roared.

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We have hundreds and hundreds of delegates who support Ron Paul. We have the 200 delegates or so who voted for him. We have all the stealth delegates who weren't allowed to vote for him. Our delegates care more about our candidate than they do about theirs. Maybe not Utah. Romney couldn't even beat us in Massachusetts.

You want the viewer at home watching Romney and thinking "This is Awful. I hate this. I am less likely to vote for Romney because of this."

You want that speech to be completely wrecked.

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CHANTS / Before and After
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Before
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Before the Romney speech you chant something that won't get you kicked out.

Others have suggested USA. Because it would be either confusing, or would be funny if it lasted a long time.

Others have tried to come up with ideas of a word to shout if THEY use USA. One syllable word. RAPE.

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After
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When Romney starts speaking, that's when all hell breaks loose.

The idea is tell the American people who are watching that the people in the Republican National Convention HATE MITT ROMNEY with a burning passion,
and if the people at the Convention hate him so much, no way should they vote for him.

So, you want the chants to be as simple, direct, and brutal as possible. If someone has simpler, more brutal, more direct chants, I'd like to hear them.

FUCK YOU
SUCK MY DICK
SUCK MY DICK MITT
WE HATE YOU
WE HATE YOU MITT
YOU SUCK

You don't want the people who are watching at home to have to think about this very much. You want to communicate as directly as possible.

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fighting
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Long tradition of fist fights at Republican National Conventions. 1952 Taft. Go down swinging is an option. Wreck the Convention.

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Bodily fluids
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Piss, Shit, Urine, Blood

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Writing on Signs
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Urine is invisible under regular light, and glows under UV light.
I have the links to the UV lights above
Premark the signs with UV paint, UV ink, UV cream, a UV marker, a UV security marker, a dollar bill checker, etc. or urine.
Then, wait until Romney is up, and then shine the UV light on the premarked signs.
Again, mostly FUCK and SUCKS. get some toilet paper, piss on it, and wipe a quick FUCK on as many signs as you can. It'll glow.

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Throwing things
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This is for the people who are still not kicked out. This is for the moment that the Candidate, their wives and their kids are on stage,
and they're holding hands, and they're about to raise their hands and hundreds of shoes hit them. FUN!



Wreck The Convention

I like this. Maybe we shouldn't use profanity, but make a last hurrah.
 
If Ron Paul ran 3rd party, of course he would get my vote. And I really hope he runs. But he's not. So forget it and vote for Gary Johnson.
 
If Ron Paul had any consideration of running, Rand wouldn't have been pimping Romney last night. It's just not in the cards. Sorry, but it isn't. And there's nothing we can do to change Ron's mind.

Gary isnt a bad guy. Hes quite acceptable. But he will run again.

Ron Paul wont.

Lets put our energy behind Ron Paul this last time.

All the calls for Ron Paul to run 3rd Party or to write him in or to adopt some other possible strategy, please help us with this effort.

We've given our blood sweat and tears to this man and I for one would like to push all the way to the (bitter) end.

Lets get it done for RON PAUL and for the future of America, no, the World. We'll be there for Gary next time around.

What say you? Lets unite.

Wonder Twin powers, activate!
 
I wish that Ron would become Gary's new VP pick.

This would be a HUGE boost to Gary and a lot harder to be ignored by the media and the debates.

I think we are going to see something similar with Obama when he dumps Biden for Clinton.
 
I wish that Ron would become Gary's new VP pick.

This would be a HUGE boost to Gary and a lot harder to be ignored by the media and the debates.

I think we are going to see something similar with Obama when he dumps Biden for Clinton.

That is an interesting idea, Ron wouldn't have to jump thru hoops for this to happen like he would if he ran for president as an independent now. Still not going to happen. :(
 
How so? Seems like some weird twisted sexual thing some NOBP people have going on...

You have to understand that other people don't get off writing in someones name for the sake of it........The rest of us actually have aspirations to win this f*cking thing (no matter how small those chances are). If I said I was writing in "Micky Mouse" you'd call me nuts - so why is "Ron Paul" justified? He is not running for President of the US (a write in will NOT protect the Constitution). Gary Johnson IS running for the Presidency and a vote for Gary is a vote for the Constitution.

Do what you will. If we're not together in this, we'll fail before we even begin. The fight doesn't have to be over! We still have three months to go nuts all over again! For liberty!

Yea, really! Hey everybody the time is 2012 and it is time for us to stop "Micky Mousing" around already and WIRP! :D
 
Being in California it doesn't matter for me, but, RP supporters nationwide should be voting for Johnson rather than sitting out or voting for Obama. RP is not going third party, he's retiring.
 
Yea, really! Hey everybody the time is 2012 and it is time for us to stop "Micky Mousing" around already and WIRP! :D

It's funny to me...

You're writing in RP which will do nothing for RP.

If you vote for Gary Johnson, Ron Paul gets a position in a Libertarian government.

You're living on the moon.
 
In reality, Republicans cannot be conformed. We are libertarians - quite a difference. For the future, I would focus on what we actually are - libertarians - and with growing numbers people will at least realize there are other parties around.
Well, some of us are paleoconservatives, or other things. But when the Republicans are pushing for big-government neocons that want endless wars and endless spending and things, they don't make the Republican Party a very attractive place to be.
 
All the calls for Ron Paul to run 3rd Party or to write him in or to adopt some other possible strategy, please help us with this effort.

We've given our blood sweat and tears to this man and I for one would like to push all the way to the (bitter) end.

Lets get it done for RON PAUL and for the future of America, no, the World. We'll be there for Gary next time around.

This is not "the bitter end". If you believe in working within the political process, you will be spending the rest of your life fighting for the liberty movement. Ron has gone from a relatively unknown Congressman who used to speak at colleges in front of four or five students to a nationally known figure who regularly draws thousands to hear him speak. All in all, pretty amazing progress. Now he is retiring, and it is time for other people to step up to the bat. Beating a dead horse gets us nowhere. I'm not 100% enthused with Johnson, but he's the best on the ballot so I'll vote for him if I vote. I absolutely don't intend on ever voting for him again, because I would hope the liberty movement could do a lot better in the future. Look to the future, not the past.
 
Gary isnt a bad guy. Hes quite acceptable. But he will run again.

Ron Paul wont.

Lets put our energy behind Ron Paul this last time.

All the calls for Ron Paul to run 3rd Party or to write him in or to adopt some other possible strategy, please help us with this effort.

We've given our blood sweat and tears to this man and I for one would like to push all the way to the (bitter) end.

Lets get it done for RON PAUL and for the future of America, no, the World. We'll be there for Gary next time around.

What say you? Lets unite.

Wonder Twin powers, activate!
You misunderstand the process. A Ron Paul vote will be ignored by election officials in November. Gary Johnson's vote will be counted. That is the difference.
 
I'm not a Gary Johnson supporter. In fact, I disagree with him on several issues. However, in my state, as I'm sure is also the case with many others, there will almost positively be no way for me to vote for Ron Paul. Thus, Gary Johnson is my best option.
 
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