Tired of RP Supporters' Economic BS

[ARealConservative]

Power is inherently illegitimate. I believe all authority must demonstrate why they deserve elevated leadership roles. Any authority for it's own sake is unjustifiable. I believe in justified authority, which includes possible rule by the "informed class", rather those most able to justify why they should be rulers. I don't have limitations on who this may be... I can give an example of legitimate authority as a father who tells his son that he must be a certain age before he smokes his first blunt with him.

The technocracy would serve to protect the species survival, I suppose, to ultimately answer the question.

It comes down to first principles, and mine is that humanity is worth saving... for now.

So for now, the technocrat’s interests are to save humanity, but ultimately it is likely the informed class that will decide who is served and how.

I love it.....not your ideas obviously, they are flat out retarded. I love seeing people with an inflated sense of worth expose themselves.

 

[jjockers]

I believe all authority must demonstrate why they deserve elevated leadership roles

...rather those most able to justify why they should be rulers

To you, what is the difference between demonstrate and justify?

Right now, we have rulers who justify why they should be re-elected. Is that similar?

Thanks

 

[Kade]

So for now, the technocrat’s interests are to save humanity, but ultimately it is likely the informed class that will decide who is served and how.

I love it.....not your ideas obviously, they are flat out retarded. I love seeing people with an inflated sense of worth expose themselves.

I didn't really answer your question... you assume FAR too much.

If humanity, and by extension the individual are not to served, what then, is the answer for you to your own question?

I also said nothing about "serve".

 

[Kade]

To you, what is the difference between demonstrate and justify?

Thanks

A complicated distinction. This is part of what makes an open democracy so important. People will follow justified authority. Demonstrating that one is an authority on any subject, to which the other authorities in that field/system agree, constitutes justification.

 

[Kade]

I love it.....not your ideas obviously, they are flat out retarded. I love seeing people with an inflated sense of worth expose themselves.

You don't know my ideas, and you barely limp across the finish line in regards to comprehending them.

I should also note that this criticism was just laid out by me, (with far superior dialogue) to your defecating friend krazy kaju.

You're own creative insults would be more entertaining to me. Thanks.

 

[ARealConservative]

I didn't really answer your question... you assume FAR too much.

You said: The technocracy would serve to protect the species survival, I suppose, to ultimately answer the question.

So the only thing I assumed, was that you would stand my your words. I guess I do assume too much.

I also said nothing about "serve".

Yes you did. The technocracy would serve to protect the species survival.

I imagine you realized how idiotic it was, but you did say it.

 

[The_Orlonater]

Let me into this conversation.

 

[Kade]

You said: The technocracy would serve to protect the species survival, I suppose, to ultimately answer the question.

So the only thing I assumed, was that you would stand my your words. I guess I do assume too much.




Yes you did. The technocracy would serve to protect the species survival.

I imagine you realized how idiotic it was, but you did say it.

Serve is grossly out of context. I did not imply that people would "serve" anything in particular.

Enslavement is a different concept than survival... Your assumption is that any authority would be inherently flawed... I am no anarchist, and I do not support unjustified authority. I might be assuming to much about people. I stick with what I know, so you will have to excuse my lack of energy and passion for any real authority at all...

 

[Kade]

Let me into this conversation.

Sure.

Define "Economic Liberalism".

 

[Kade]

Granted, my own flaw in thinking might be that I assume people will ultimately follow the leadership chosen among the justified authority...

My flaw is optimism.

 

[The_Orlonater]

Sure.

Define "Economic Liberalism".

Classic Liberalism, or Social Liberalism?

 

[Kade]

Classic Liberalism, or Social Liberalism?

Whatever you think it is Orlonater.

 

[The_Orlonater]

Whatever you think it is Orlonater.

Well,

Social Liberalism would be what the name suggests. More government involvement in the economy. I would think they would put anti-trust laws in place and favor things like universal healthcare.

Classic Liberalism

Very limited, or no government involvement whatsoever.


That's the simple part of it.

 

[ARealConservative]

Serve is grossly out of context. I did not imply that people would "serve" anything in particular.

You should really figure out how your mixed model is going to operate before claiming a stronger position in “the real world”. Man generally has a purpose for his actions.

The bottom line is you ripped the keys out of the hands of the monopolist and placed them in the hands of technocrat and are still at the mercy of individuals who take actions to serve a purpose of some kind.

 

[Kade]

You should really figure out how your mixed model is going to operate before claiming a stronger position in “the real world”. Man generally has a purpose for his actions.

The bottom line is you ripped the keys out of the hands of the monopolist and placed them in the hands of technocrat and are still at the mercy of individuals who take actions to serve a purpose of some kind.

I don't really see a way around that ARC, but I am open to suggestions.

 

[The_Orlonater]

Well, that's what I think.

Do I win?

 

[electronicmaji]

KADE ...I love you!

 

[Kade]

Well,

Social Liberalism would be what the name suggests. More government involvement in the economy. I would think they would put anti-trust laws in place and favor things like universal healthcare.

Classic Liberalism

Very limited, or no government involvement whatsoever.


That's the simple part of it.

Social Liberalism doesn't really care about the economy. Economic Liberalism has only one meaning... It's remarkable how things get twisted so easily here... as if we are somehow speaking some kind of code language.

I hear the "Price is Right" failure music in the background....

 

[Kade]

KADE ...I love you!

I could have used a bit of your insight earlier. Debating at all with some on here is like scraping barnacles off a boat, and almost as offensive. I forgot you were still around, I ought to change my signature.

 

[Danke]

KADE ...I love you!

We know.