Tips on moving to New Hampshire

[Keith and stuff]

People message me from time to time about how to find a place to live and job in New Hampshire. People have all type of questions. Some people wonder how can NH get by without a general personal income or sales tax. People wonder about where to live.

Here are the basics. NH doesn't have a person income or general sales tax. There are 13 cities in NH. In those communities, people only have limited control over the government budgets and tax rates. In the other 200 plus communities in NH, the people mostly control the property taxes they pay via voting. Some communities have no property taxes, some have low and some have very high. It depends what people want. However, don't even worry about that YET. I recommend RENTING when you first move to NH so property taxes shouldn't even matter to you. Keep in mind that rent might be more expensive than where you currently live, especially if you don't live in a major metro as southeastern NH is considered part of the Boston MSA. Also keep in mind that you may save $4,000-$8,000 per year on sales and income taxes when you move to NH so even if rent is $1,000-$2,000 more than where you currently live, you will still save lots of money.

The FSP resources for moving to NH. http://freestateproject.org/nhinfocenter
The above resource includes links to a Facebook group for jobs and housing in NH.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Inexpensive apartment rentals in New Hampshire for February 2013

http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=26528.0

It's true that there are several ways to search for apartments that are less expensive than Craigslist. Often, once people move to NH, they figure that out. However, Craigslist is a decent site for those looking to check out slightly overpriced apartment rentals in NH (or anywhere in the US). You can do your own search but here is a taste.

Here are some.
$500 / 2br - 2BR/1BA Apartment - includes heat and 2 parking spots in Newmarket (part of the NH Seacoast Region, the nicest and most expensive region in NH)
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3647861825.html

$1125 / 4br in Milton
Located in the northern edges of the Seacoast Region right next to the Lakes Region
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3598813868.html

$850 / 3br - includes hear and hot water in Manchester (the largest city in NH)
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3647908864.html

$795 / 3br in Manchester
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3604171479.html

$750 / 3br in Manchester
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3604201766.html

$750 / 3br in Manchester
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3604197708.html

$1300 / 4br - 1700ft² - 4br/2bath in Manchester
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3647330383.html

$900 / 3br 2 bath - 1800ft² in Concord where the NH State House is and 3 interstates connect.
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3647596837.html

2 bedroom in Charlestown, NH.
Charlestown is just off I-91 and near Keene and Claremont, NH. This place is for a poor family.
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3631532566.html

$700 / 3br in Newport (includes hot water)
This place is between Grafton and Keene. There is a Ruger factory in town.
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3643257414.html

$725 / 2br or $775 2br with heat included in Rindge
Live in the most Republican town in Cheshire County, NH
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3647296243.html

$500 / 2br - 1240ft² in Wolfeboro
Test drive the Lakes Region during a Summer.
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3641249937.html

$510 / 2br in Tamworth
Month to month in the Lakes Region
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3593346003.html

$600 / 2br in Tuftonboro
Move to the Lakes Region year round.
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3641274070.html

$900 / 3br in Laconia (includes washer and dryer)
Move to the only city in the Lakes Region
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3586472429.html

$650 / 3br in Berlin
Move to the only city in NH's North Country
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3647803232.html

$825 / 3br in Lisbon (includes electric, heat and hot water)
Move to a town just south of where Porcfest happens.
http://nh.craigslist.org/apa/3647323967.html
Report to moderator 74.65.173.33

 

[Keith and stuff]

For those of you Ron Paul supporters considering moving to New Hampshire, it isn't as cold as you think. Did you know that NH is warmer than much of WA, NE, IN, IL, OH, PA, CT and MA?

Putting New Hampshire’s weather into perspective
March 3, 2013
http://nhfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/putting-new-hampshires-weather-into-perspective/

Sometimes people that just learn about the Free State Project say that New Hampshire is cold. Those people then frequently complain that NH is too cold for a lot of people to want to move there.

NH is colder than much of the US. However, much of NH is warmer than many of the largest, most populated cities in the US. You may know that Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Detroit, Buffalo and Albany are colder than Salem, NH. But did you know that Chicago, Des Moines, Spokane, Cleveland, Omaha and even Ft. Wayne, IN have lower daytime temperatures during the Winter than Salem, NH? Even major international cities such as Berlin, Germany, Copenhagen, Denmark and Beijing, China are colder than Salem, NH.

Many of those cities have histrionically been some of the most populated cities in the US. Chicago is still one of most populated urban areas in the US. Beijing has over 20,000,000 people. The Free State Project is just asking for 20,000 people to sign up to move to New Hampshire.

Freedom, WY is colder than Freedom, NH.

Grafton, ND is colder than Grafton, NH.

NH Weather: Salem, NH to
Torrington, CT
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl... CT&sfld2=Salem, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=USNH0199

Des Moines, IA
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USIA0231&clocid2=USNH0199

Ft. Wayne, IN
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl... IN&sfld2=Salem, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=USNH0199

Chicago, IL
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USIL0225&clocid2=USNH0199

Springfield, MA
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...lem, NH, US&clocid1=USMA0405&clocid2=USNH0199

Detroit, MI
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USMI0229&clocid2=USNH0199

Minneapolis, MN
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl... MN&sfld2=Salem, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=USNH0199

Omaha, NE
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USNE0363&clocid2=USNH0199

Albany, NY
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl... NY&sfld2=Salem, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=USNH0199

Buffalo, NY
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl... NY&sfld2=Salem, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=USNH0199

Syracuse, NY
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USNY1434&clocid2=USNH0199

Cleveland, OH
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USOH0195&clocid2=USNH0199

Toledo, OH
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USOH0953&clocid2=USNH0199

Erie, PA
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl... PA&sfld2=Salem, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=USNH0199

Scranton, PA
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USPA1459&clocid2=USNH0199

Sioux Falls, SD
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl... SD&sfld2=Salem, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=USNH0199

Spokane, WA
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USWA0422&clocid2=USNH0199

Milwaukee, WI
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=USWI0455&clocid2=USNH0199

Beijing, China
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...ina&sfld2=Salem, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=USNH0199

Copenhagen, Denmark
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...ark&sfld2=Salem, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=USNH0199

Berlin, Germany
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...2=Salem, NH&clocid1=GMXX0007&clocid2=USNH0199

Freedom, NH to Freedom, WY
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...eedom, WY&sfld2=Freedom, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=

Grafton, NH to Grafton, ND
http://www.weather.com/weather/wxcl...afton, ND&sfld2=Grafton, NH&clocid1=&clocid2=

 

[Saint Vitus]

I just got a job offer to move to Berlin, New Hampshire. I'm currently living in south Texas where it was about 75 degrees yesterday. Two questions: can you live a decent life on 55K a year in northern New Hampshire? How much do you spend a year on heating your homes? I know fuck all about heating oil.

Edit: I will also be a Federal employee. Will the fact that I work for the feds automatically exclude me from the FSP?

 

[Keith and stuff]

I just got a job offer to move to Berlin, New Hampshire. I'm currently living in south Texas where it was about 75 degrees yesterday. Two questions: can you live a decent life on 55K a year in northern New Hampshire? How much do you spend a year on heating your homes? I know fuck all about heating oil.

Edit: I will also be a Federal employee. Will the fact that I work for the feds automatically exclude me from the FSP?

Coos County is by far the least expensive part of NH when it comes to home prices. You can get apartment buildings with 4 units in Berlin for under $100,000. But, it's also the coldest part of NH. To live a nice life up there? Maybe $20,000 per person. So a family of 2 could live it up for $40,000. With $55k, a family of 2 adults and a kid could live it up with 2 ATVs, season ski passes and all that jazz.

Working for the government has nothing to do with the FSP. You could work for the local, state and federal government at the same time and still be qualified and welcomed by most. A handful of people might jokingly make fun of you if you work for the government.

You might want to ask questions here. https://www.facebook.com/groups/455391747869350/

As for heating costs. It is close to nothing if you cut your own wood. Well, you have to pay for the axe or more likely, chainsaw, at least. But yeah, Northern New Hampshire is the coldest part of NH and I suspect it is expensive to stay warm if you don't use wood or wood pellets.

On the bright side, Porcfest, the largest FSP event of the year (over a full week and 1000+ folks) is in Lancaster, NH, at commutable distance from Berlin.

Berlin, NH is the poorest part of NH. It's where money goes the farthest in many ways (but there is poor competition is the market place due to the low population). Amazon.com and so on delivers up there so what you don't see in the Walmart and local stores, you can still get no problem. Crime is just about the national average though, so don't freak out.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I just got a job offer to move to Berlin, New Hampshire. I'm currently living in south Texas where it was about 75 degrees yesterday. Two questions: can you live a decent life on 55K a year in northern New Hampshire? How much do you spend a year on heating your homes? I know fuck all about heating oil.

Edit: I will also be a Federal employee. Will the fact that I work for the feds automatically exclude me from the FSP?

Do it, you will be glad you did, just be ready for that cold weather shock, especially coming from south Texas.

I mean, no shit, for real cold.

Right now, it's 9. It'll be -10 or so tonight.

You'll want wood heat of some kind, to back up oil heat. Stay far away from propane or electric as primary heat sources.

As Keith already mentioned, if you have access to a wood lot and time, "free" wood is best.

You can buy split, dry and delivered cordwood for about $250-$300 a cord: for a tight, new, well insulated home, about 2000 square feet, you'll need about 4 cords per winter.

You can go with a pellet stove, but I don't care for these, they require electricity and store bought pellets to function.

I've been using a mix of cordwood that I cut myself, and these, which burn fine in any woodstove:

That's pressed bricks of hardwood sawdust, compacted into bricks that weigh about two-three pounds or so.

They burn clean, hot, easy to handle, no bugs or dirt, one ton = one cord split hardwood, roughly.

 

[Anti Federalist]

A great real estate resource.

Northern New England Real Estate network.

I found my home and land using this.


http://www.nneren.com/

 

[Saint Vitus]

Thanks for the tips guys, I should be up there in 2 more months. From what I've looked at online, there doesn't seem to be many Free Staters in the northern part of the state. I'm not going to know anybody when I move up there, so hopefully I can meet some like minded people.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Thanks for the tips guys, I should be up there in 2 more months. From what I've looked at online, there doesn't seem to be many Free Staters in the northern part of the state. I'm not going to know anybody when I move up there, so hopefully I can meet some like minded people.

They meet every month or 2 weeks or something. Once you move let me know and I'll hook you up with everyone up there. There are also monthly Lakes Region meetings. The Upper Valley (in Lebanon usually) also has monthly meetings. Plus, if you get involved with the GOP or something, there are those meetings. The Coos County GOP Chair is a Ron Paul guy.

 

[KCIndy]

You'll want wood heat of some kind, to back up oil heat. Stay far away from propane or electric as primary heat sources.

And if you're going to buy a wood stove, do it NOW. The good ol' EPA is working on eliminating wood stoves. Seriously.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybe...-chilling-consequences-for-many-rural-people/

It seems that even wood isn’t green or renewable enough anymore. The EPA has recently banned the production and sale of 80 percent of America’s current wood-burning stoves, the oldest heating method known to mankind and mainstay of rural homes and many of our nation’s poorest residents. The agency’s stringent one-size-fits-all rules apply equally to heavily air-polluted cities and far cleaner plus typically colder off-grid wilderness areas such as large regions of Alaska and the American West.

In the New World Order, self-sufficiency is a crime.

 

[Anti Federalist]

And if you're going to buy a wood stove, do it NOW. The good ol' EPA is working on eliminating wood stoves. Seriously.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybe...-chilling-consequences-for-many-rural-people/

In the New World Order, self-sufficiency is a crime.

I will weld steel plate, and wait for my SWAT raid.

Fuck them, that is a line in the sand for me.

Been nice knowing you, boys.