Thoughts on Endangered Species act?

[guitarlifter]

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-05-gray-wolf-endangered.html

This is just a news snippet that I saw today, and it urged the question of whether or not such a bill is constitutional and, more importantly, moral. Thoughts?

 

[pcosmar]

I act like I am an endangered species all the time.

 

[virgil47]

The management of wildlife is necessary if we wish them to continue to exist. Having said that I firmly believe no wildlife should ever take precedence over humanity. None of this replanting of wildlife that in actuality never existed. For example the wolf issue of transplanting a nonindiginous species of wolf into an area where the original species has died out or whose population has fallen drastically.

 

[Pericles]

How many spotted owls does it take to make a meal?

 

[BenIsForRon]

It's definitely moral, I'm not sure about constitutional though. We are just beginning to understand how important biodiversity is.

 

[erowe1]

Totally unconstitutional, totally immoral, and totally illogical.

If you want to preserve a species, then you have to make it easier for people to make a profit off of it, not harder.

 

[Wesker1982]

 

[pcosmar]

How many spotted owls does it take to make a meal?

For how many guests?

You can stretch it by making a stew.

 

[SamuraisWisdom]

It is most certainly moral and necessary. This is one issue that goes beyond national borders and treaties. The Earth is a delicate and balanced entity that has been around for millions of years. We have only been around for several thousand. So we are new to this world but act as if we own it and take it for granted much of the time.

 

[South Park Fan]

Doesn't anybody here realize that the Endangered Species Act is just a Trojan Horse for the EPA stealing other people's land?

http://www.fff.org/freedom/0795e.asp:

For example, local zoning regulations tell people what they can and cannot do with their land. The federal government has increasingly used the Endangered Species Act (ESA) and the Clean Water Act (CWA) to stop owners from developing or farming their land. If an animal on the endangered species list lives on a property, it is against the law to destroy the animal's habitat. This has been the case with farmland in California that is home to the kangaroo rat, in Pacific Northwest forests that are home to the spotted owl, and with other private property. Under the Environmental Protection Agency's interpretation of the CWA, private "wetlands" (some owners claim their property is not really wet) are protected and may not be developed.

 

[ChaosControl]

I don't know about the act itself as I haven't read it and honestly there is no way in hell I'm going to read something written by the people in DC.
However, I support the idea of endangered species protection, just as I support environmental protections. I am also fine with federal regulations on those since they both transcend states. They are of two of the only things I actually support federal protections for. But I cannot really comment on the ESA itself.

 

[Freedom 4 all]

The individual is the most endangered species.

 

[Mini-Me]

Biodiversity is important, but nature corrects itself with or without our help. Species go extinct every day with or without our help (and have since way before our time), and interesting new species are discovered all the time. If you really think we should actively promote biodiversity though, might I suggest a genocide of snakehead fish as the first course of action?

 

[andrew96]

This is irrelevant, this discusses selling farmed tigers, not wild ones. I am an aquatic ecology student and I know a thing or two about endangered species. If done correctly the bans work well because they force companies to farm the animals as opposed to killing wild ones. A sustainable comercial fishery has been maintained in Alaska for 50 years without a problem because of correctly implimented bag limits. Look at the striped bass(Morone saxatilis) coming back due to regulation and farming. Look up "Omega Protein Virginia General Assembly menhaden", lack of Government regulation is an awful thing for those fish. I know my stuff, I am intimately familiar with the legal system regarding endangered species. Another example is the ban on catching Atlantic Sturgeon(Acipenser oxyrinchus) and they're just starting to come back and poaching is a non-issue.

 

[Southron]

This is irrelevant, this discusses selling farmed tigers, not wild ones. I am an aquatic ecology student and I know a thing or two about endangered species. If done correctly the bans work well because they force companies to farm the animals as opposed to killing wild ones. A sustainable comercial fishery has been maintained in Alaska for 50 years without a problem because of correctly implimented bag limits. Look at the striped bass(Morone saxatilis) coming back due to regulation and farming. Look up "Omega Protein Virginia General Assembly menhaden", lack of Government regulation is an awful thing for those fish. I know my stuff, I am intimately familiar with the legal system regarding endangered species. Another example is the ban on catching Atlantic Sturgeon(Acipenser oxyrinchus) and they're just starting to come back and poaching is a non-issue.

I have no problem with fishing or hunting bag limits but what about situations where the animals aren't being targeted but are still disappearing?

 

[HarryBrowneLives]

Interestingly enough, I've thought about starting my own endangered species resturant ... Snail Darter Soup, Komodo Dragon Tail, Spotted Owl Flambay, Braised Pygmy Rabbit ... yum, yum.

 

[Flirple]

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[DamianTV]

Can we add MIDDLE CLASS to the Endangered Species List?