Thoughts of ways to win Guilianni and Romney's supporters

[pcosmar]

Get Ron Paul nominated, they are obviously not thinking, and are supporting who they are told has a chance.

 

[abbgt1]

To convert someone that is behind Rudy or Mitt, I would suggest to that voter that R & M are both further away from the Reagan Republican platform than Paul. Paul & Reagan had a great deal in common (they didn't differ in theory and ideology very much, but Reagan did accept big gov't much more than Paul would as President). If they are die hard Republicans, they want to believe they are voting the way Reagan would.

 

[Goldwater Conservative]

Regarding Romney...

Do you want some banana with that abortion?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKwVNUz52vo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kijwc1DTuM0

"Multiple Choice" Mitt blatantly ignores a handicapped supporter after being lobbed a softball question:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY6UTnS6Z-A

If this wasn't so frighteningly believable, it'd be even funnier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ZQQzp93eA&feature=related

 

[reaver]

Giuliani and Romney dodged the draft. Ron Paul volunteered.

 

[idiom]

How did they survive four debates if they are draft dodgers? After the mess of 'I went to Vietnam but not really' of 2004? What a massive election liability.

 

[user]

One good argument I heard somewhere to use in favor of bringing troops home from all around the world is to point out how China doesn't have bases all over the place, but nobody is going to invade China. They'd have to face the largest standing army in the world.

 

[Ron Paul in 2008]

My question is, what about a change in tactics to show people supporting the rest of the candidates that the best way to protect ourselves is to stay out of the affairs of others?

Just say that the people who say we must fight the terrorists overseas are the same people who refuse to secure the border and have expanded Muslim immigration.

Then stress how we can't afford it and that top military commanders have said we need to fight the insurgency for decades and there is no proof the Muslims won't democratically elect an extremist once we leave. Cite Bill Clinton's interventionist foreign policy and show them how interventionism is a liberal ideology.

(the #1 reason I'm CONSTANTLY given for why NOT to vote for him!!)

Thoughts???

Tell them that the founding fathers always said to vote according to principle and this nation was built by men with conviction. Greatness will not come by voting for who can win but by fighting for the one who can't. Heck, I was fighting for Ron Paul since the campaign started and I was told by so many people he never had a chance. Now plenty of people actually believe he has a chance because we kept fighting and didn't give up. Anyone who doesnt vote for who they like is a completely un-American and they really upset me. However, reseach all of the candidates positions and just show how they ALL support amnesty: Romney, Guilani, Huckabee, Thompson and McCain. Amnesty is basically the #1 issue for everyone and once they learn that their candidate supports amnesty they will switch ships.

 

[smithnwesson]

Well, my brother is someone I'm currently trying to win over, and he's one of those "I'll vote for Giulianni if he wins the primary" voters.

One thing that DOES NOT WORK is saying "we need to get respect from the world community". He doesn't care about that, because a lot of times the thing that made America great was doing things that flew in the face of the world community.

Show your Rudy fans that even if they were for going into Iraq, do they really think we need to go to Iran? If they say "yes, because Iran has NOOK YOO LER WEAPONS and an Islamo facist dictator," kindly point out that Pakistan has Nuclear weapons and is still giving harbor to AlQuaeda, and Saudi Arabia has Sharia Law.

Then point out that we consider these countries allies and that we just sent 10 billion dollars in aid to Pakistan.

Then point out that we used to consider Osama Bin Laden and Sadam Hussein "allies" and we gave them aid and weapons.

Then say something like this: "Look, I understand that we were all frustrated after 9/11, but if you want to stop terrorist attacks in this country, would you rather have the National Guard on the border of Iraq and Syria, or Arizona and Mexico?"

Then take that right into the amnesty discussion, or the weak dollar, or whatever else you think would be a key issue. Show them that maybe the war isn't the best idea, and then hit them with a policy they would agree with Dr. Paul on. Most Republicans/Conservatives I've found never gave him a chance because of the war stance. But when you show WHY he takes that stance, they might find they actually agree with him!

It's not too difficult if you know the person you're talking to. Ron Paul's message is for everyone, and there are many parts of it every American can agree on. My brother has now said he wants to find out more about Ron Paul, and definitely WILL NOT vote for Giulianni, even if he gets the nomination.