This Sucks, but we need help in Indiana!

That's right. Know the laws/rules. Make sure the Indiana GOP doesn't try to pull a fast one on you guys.
 
JeffersonAndLiberty the link to the downloadable petition in the OP is broken.
 
I am the meetup organizer for Porter and LaPorte Counties, 614 & 748. If RP is not on my ballot, I hold no one to blame but John Downey. You have only returned one of my 8 emails, sir. You sent all of us emails MONTHS ago stating ***WE MADE IT***.

So we stopped gathering. Why haven't you returned any attempt to contact you either by myself, or the meetup organizers I work with in Northern Indiana?

Here is an email I received last month from an organizer in the area:

I just got off the phone with John Downey, the guy responsible for obtaining ballot access here in Indiana. He said that every district is in the clear!

I told him that we still have a bunch of signatures to turn in, and he said to go right on ahead, it's better to be safe than sorry. So this is for everyone that has collected any signatures: Please turn them in to your county clerk's office by February 12th, preferably at least a week before. Ask them to verify them while you're still there, and once they've done this, get the signature sheet back and find a way to get it to either Ray Jensen or myself, as we'll be FedExing them down to Indy. If you don't know where the county clerk's office is in your particular county and can't find it online, email me, I'll help you find it.

We can relax a little bit now as we don't have a looming deadline, but don't relax too much as Super Tuesday is coming up!
 
Here is another email to me, from John.

Charlie,

We are very close to our goal of getting Ron Paul on the ballot here in the Hoosier State. As many of you know the deadline for filing signatures for verification is noon, Tuesday, Feb. 12. Then they will return the forms to us so that Ron can file his candidacy (CAN-7) by noon, Feb. 22. Signatures for every district in Indiana are currently at or on their way to election offices throughout the state.

Though we have enough signatures to meet the minimum in every district we would like to add a buffer to our numbers that will ensure a Ron Paul ballot placement. We would like to get another 150 signatures in districts 1 and 2 or if you have signatures on hand you haven't sent to me (John Downey) please let me know. We have a goal of another 150 signatures to get and a little under 2 weeks in which to do it.

If you have never seen a CAN-8 form you fill in Ron Paul as the name, Texas as the state of residence, and check the Republican box. Then when you find someone willing to sign the petition you just need to make sure they sign the sheet for their county.

The proper procedure for having CAN-8 forms verified is to take them to the the County Clerk's office for the county the signees reside. They will then arrange with you on how and when you can pick them up. The county will return to you the form with backside filled out with the number of good signatures.

Once you have forms verified send me an email at [email protected] and we'll discuss how we are going to get them with the CAN-7 form.

John Downey
Indiana Ballot Access Coordinator
Ron Paul 2008 Presidential Campaign Committee
[email protected]
 
hey since I have some more people in Indiana on here are you guys on board with what we are trying to do as a state with delegates please get a hold of me and will gladly tell you where we are and what we need--but working on ballots of course for a sec
 
NeoRayden said:
its not about being whiney i said we need to fix it. We send them a petetion telling them to fix it or we withdraw our support.
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The point is we don't have time for that right now. Signatures deadline is TOMORROW at NOON.
 
Apparently, we have enough signatures, it's all about getting them to Mr. Downey physically. If you have signatures, get them verified and then PM me for John Downey's number. I won't put it out here due to the hostility.
 
BreakYourChains said:
Yes, if he screwed this up, it was intentional, as many of us feared back then. But, no one would listen to our concerns. Let us hope we have the signatures. Talk about infiltration, happens even at this level. Perhaps Mr. Downey lied all along about being paid staff, just to stop us. Perhaps he was paid staff, just not Ron Paul's paid staff. We will see.....
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Having been involved in managing ballot drives before, what probably happened was he was provided counts from various people and assumed he had been given accurate information. We learned from experience to never count signatures until they had been independently verified and turned in.

For example: people get embarassed by the number of sigs they've collected and say they've gotten more than they have (usually fully intending to collect the rest). These "phantom signatures" can lead you astray if you don't independently verify them.
 
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