This Sucks, but we need help in Indiana!

[JeffersonAndLiberty]

Posted on DP:


We've got an emergency here in Indiana relating to getting Ron Paul on the ballot. Due to disinformation that I still can't sort out, we need to collect about 500 signatures from Indiana residents especially from Monroe County. I've been out of town working with the grassroots campaign in New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida and Missouri.

My name is Aaron Jones - I'm the assistant Meetup organizer for the Bloomington Ron Paul group. We need your help getting this urgent need out to the public. Anyone who cares about the democratic process would want every choice to be included on the ballot in Indiana. You need not be a supporter of Ron Paul to sign this petition. Please urge those who would sign this petition to go to "Baked of Bloomington" located at 113 W. 7th Street, in between College Ave. and Walnut St. next to Max's Place.

We must have these petitions by Monday night. (feb 11th)

If you can please help by printing these petitions and getting indiana signatures: http://www.in.gov/sos/pdf...

Turn them in to Baked of Bloomington 113 W. 7th by tomorrow night!
(they are open till 2 am or later)

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here is an email I received:

We still desperately need sigs in the 4th, 8th, and 9th . . . they have to be turned in to the respecitve county clerk by noon on Tuesday Feb 12, retrieved by whomever delivers them to the county, and then immediately gotten to John Downey so we can file them with all other petitions the week of Feb 18th. If we don't get 500 verified sigs in each of the nine congressional districts, we don't get on the ballot anywhere in Indiana.

Thanks for any help you can offer,

joe

Please deliver all county-verified signatures as soon as they're retrieved to:

John Downey
2243 US Hwy 52 W #221
W Lafayette, IN 47906

 

[Austin]

Good God if the campaign screws this up I will personally get a hold of Downey and strangle the life out of him...¹

I worked hard to get dozens of signatures in my county, and we were told weeks ago that we had enough signatures in ALL districts. Oh man am I pissed right now..

¹ not really

 

[morlhzd]

how is it possible to still need signatures?

 

[Austin]

how is it possible to still need signatures?

Because they emailed us in January saying they had all of the signatures they needed, so the grassroots stopped collecting signatures.

Though we have enough signatures to meet the minimum in every district we would like to add a buffer to our numbers that will ensure a Ron Paul ballot placement. We would like to get another 150 signatures in districts 1 and 2 or if you have signatures on hand you haven't sent to me (John Downey) please let me know. We have a goal of another 150 signatures to get and a little under 2 weeks in which to do it.

And now, they are saying we need even more signatures in even more districts, several days later! John Downey is a paid staffer, and he was back on board months ago, back when we had already collected hundreds of signatures throughout the state. If he fucks this up..

We have completed our petition drives in the 3rd, 5th, 6th, and 7th Congressional Districts of Indiana.

However, in order to be on the ballot ANYWHERE in Indiana, we must complete the drive in the remaining Congressional Districts: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 8th, and 9th

 

[Ex Post Facto]

Can you do the online signatures? Or, do they have to be hand written? If online set up a online petition and e-mail all the meetup groups. If hand written I guess the meetup groups can fill them in.

In North Carolina we are facing the same thing possibly. But we will need 10,000 signatures within a weeks time.

 

[stewie3128]

Further proof that we have saboteurs involved in this campaign.

Wish I could do something, but I'm all the way out here in San Fran.

 

[BreakYourChains]

Because they emailed us in January saying they had all of the signatures they needed, so the grassroots stopped collecting signatures.



And now, they are saying we need even more signatures in even more districts, several days later! John Downey is a paid staffer, and he was back on board months ago, back when we had already collected hundreds of signatures throughout the state. If he fucks this up..

Yes, if he screwed this up, it was intentional, as many of us feared back then. But, no one would listen to our concerns. Let us hope we have the signatures. Talk about infiltration, happens even at this level. Perhaps Mr. Downey lied all along about being paid staff, just to stop us. Perhaps he was paid staff, just not Ron Paul's paid staff. We will see.....

 

[Austin]

He is clearly a paid staffer for the Ron Paul campaign, since the emails were sent out through the ronpaul2008 mailer. I will have to go have a chat with him if Ron is not on the Indiana ballot.

 

[Ex Post Facto]

I just found this, RE: Indiana Ballot. Published January 19, 2008

Ron Paul Indiana Ballot Drive Is Done

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My sources say that the signatures are already collected. Gambling911.com is a little slow on the story. Ron Paul supporters need to focus their time on things that matter.
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by DigitalBob
(Libertarian)
I ran a Google search for "Ron Paul Indiana Ballot" and found this article Indiana Works to Get Ron Paul on Ballot. It was posted yesterday. It goes into great detail what every one can do to get Ron Paul on the ballot in time for the Indiana primary May 6th.

Although the information seems correct, the author, Bob Minarik, missed a little bit of research--the signatures have already been collected!

According to the RonPaulForums.com, the Indiana signature drive has been running strong since November.

Nilson Clark of the Michiana Meet Up group #209 reports at 3:19 p.m. Jan 18. that all the signatures have been collected. A few days ago, when I first researched this, district #5 (of Indiana's nine districts) was the only one that was short. Apparently that's no longer the case. I held off reporting that until the situation stabilized.

From our previous emails, Nilson is pretty knowledgeable and realistic. He did his research and reported this to his group:

I just got off the phone with John Downey, the guy responsible for obtaining ballot access here in Indiana. He said that every district is in the clear!

I told him that we still have a bunch of signatures to turn in, and he said to go right on ahead, it's better to be safe than sorry. So this is for everyone that has collected any signatures: Please turn them in to your county clerk's office by February 12th, preferably at least a week before. Ask them to verify them while you're still there, and once they've done this, get the signature sheet back and find a way to get it to either Ray Jensen or myself, as we'll be FedExing them down to Indy. If you don't know where the county clerk's office is in your particular county and can't find it online, email me, I'll help you find it.


So the signatures have been collected. They just have to be turned in. There is plenty of time, but using FedEx can't hurt.

Mr. Minarik seems like an enthusiastic supporter. But I urge all the grass roots to do their homework and verify their information. I had to update my article about the Rhode Island ballot access several times, until I knew it was final.

As I've stated in previous articles, if you want to help the campaign effort, contact your local Meet Up group or your state Ron Paul 2008 campaign office, if one exists. They will give you all sorts of ways to help your candidate. They're in the best position to tell you what's needed. If you've maxed out your amount of direct contributions, you might want to look at some advertising efforts that are counted as "independent expenditures", such as the Ron Paul Blimp or Utah Newspaper Ads, both of which I've previous written about.

Getting hundreds of more signatures in Indiana won't be a good use of time.

 

[Austin]

I am one of the assistant organizers of the Michiana group, so I can vouch for Nilson Clark. Either Downey is an infiltrator and we are officially screwed, or there was a fuck up of supreme magnitude and we are still screwed.

Hopefully, they are overreacting and the email prompted hundreds of new signatures and we are in the clear. I am expecting the worst, but hoping for the best.

 

[BigRedBrent]

Good God if the campaign screws this up I will personally get a hold of Downey and strangle the life out of him...¹

I worked hard to get dozens of signatures in my county, and we were told weeks ago that we had enough signatures in ALL districts. Oh man am I pissed right now..

¹ not really

Same here. I got over 50 signatures myself in Allen County. Sounds like a few of the smaller districts was having issues or something. We was supposed to have all the signatures but lacked a few more as a buffer in case they wanted to throw some out. If they don't get him on the ballot I will be MEGA PISSED!!!

 

[NeoRayden]

There are atleast 50o versions of these letters being sent out. I could not get ahold of anyone for the state campaign so I sent my lists to HQ in Dec. for La Porte County.

Regardless the only way we can make this happen in Indiana is to take over. We need a petition drive now to send to HQ telling them that because of this if the state level is not replaced with real staff we will unpledge our support on May 6th.

 

[Melissa]

This is being worked on as we speak so if you want more info please let me know

 

[Austin]

There are atleast 50o versions of these letters being sent out. I could not get ahold of anyone for the state campaign so I sent my lists to HQ in Dec. for La Porte County.

Regardless the only way we can make this happen in Indiana is to take over. We need a petition drive now to send to HQ telling them that because of this if the state level is not replaced with real staff we will unpledge our support on May 6th.

Absolutely. If this is not handled pronto, I will be sending an email each day to national campaign with my deep concerns, until I am contacted back personally by phone. I will not let this state be sabotaged like the many othera that have been to date. As such, I will begin my departure from HQ and I will attempt to bring everyone else with me. The Grassroots Machine only seems to be bogged down by HQ, and that, my friends, is a real problem.

 

[mexicanpizza]

There are atleast 50o versions of these letters being sent out. I could not get ahold of anyone for the state campaign so I sent my lists to HQ in Dec. for La Porte County.

Regardless the only way we can make this happen in Indiana is to take over. We need a petition drive now to send to HQ telling them that because of this if the state level is not replaced with real staff we will unpledge our support on May 6th.

Absolutely. If this is not handled pronto, I will be sending an email each day to national campaign with my deep concerns, until I am contacted back personally by phone. I will not let this state be sabotaged like the many othera that have been to date. As such, I will begin my departure from HQ and I will attempt to bring everyone else with me. The Grassroots Machine only seems to be bogged down by HQ, and that, my friends, is a real problem.

I agree this sucks, but you both sound like whiny douches. There is a problem, fix it. Whine later.

"I will send an EMAIL each day..." sheesh.

 

[kaleidoscope eyes]

Good God if the campaign screws this up I will personally get a hold of Downey and strangle the life out of him...¹

I worked hard to get dozens of signatures in my county, and we were told weeks ago that we had enough signatures in ALL districts. Oh man am I pissed right now..

¹ not really

yeah, I got the email that said IN had enough, but they were just looking for "extras" what gives?

 

[NeoRayden]

Krippy can you get a petition together please on thepetitionsite.com or something.

I can do it if you need me to but I am working on editing some video for a tv ad right now to hopefully air on wsbt and wndu if I raise enough money.

 

[NeoRayden]

its not about being whiney i said we need to fix it. We send them a petetion telling them to fix it or we withdraw our support.

 

[Melissa]

its not about being whiney i said we need to fix it. We send them a petetion telling them to fix it or we withdraw our support.

the grassroots are working on fixing it not sure what you this petetion is but we are have people on the ground working ion it right now if you want to help let me know

 

[nc4rp]

Keep This Bumped All Day, directly tell anyone you know in Indiana, spread word to all meetups. you have all day to do this. get er done! call in sick to work/school if you have to.