This Religious Attack Grows

[ourlongroad]

I'm closely watching as this agenda develops and plays-out. I'm not going to comment right now cause I can't yet figure out what is going on, but there is most definitely an agenda rolling out in front of our eyes. Here's the latest video, this one is from Rhodes scholar Rachel Maddow....

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=cacdc479-1f40-4cbc-8fe6-bc18169a829a

Gotta keep ‘em separated
May 7: President Obama proclaimed for Americans to pray today, since it’s the National Day of Prayer. The religious right is criticizing the proclamation because he didn’t do it like President Bush. Whatever happened to the separation of church and state? Rachel Maddow is joined by Interfaith Alliance President Rev. C Welton Gaddy.

 

[max]

Why such hatred of all things Christian????

Obama was quite open about having the first ever Passover Seder in the White House, so why all the fuss about praying with a bunch of Christians???

Hmmm...let's have a closer look at Obama's kosher handlers

Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel (his dad was an Israeli terrorist)
Chief Adviser David Axelrod
Budget Director Peter Orzag
Treasury Secretary Tim Geitner
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke
Economic adviser Larry Summers
Economic adviser Robert Rubin
Economic adviser Robert Reich
Economic adviser Paul Volcker
Fed adviser Alan Greenspan
House banking Chairman Barney Frank.
Obama money man George Soros

oy vey!

 

[dannno]

Why is there a law that says the President has to pray Christian prayers with everybody today?

I didn't see the clip. I dunno how much they railed against Christianity.. I'm not against Christians, but I don't really see this as a Christian nation either. I know way too many people who are NOT Christian.

 

[nate895]

Why is there a law that says the President has to pray Christian prayers with everybody today?

I didn't see the clip. I dunno how much they railed against Christianity.. I'm not against Christians, but I don't really see this as a Christian nation either. I know way too many people who are NOT Christian.

We are the most "churched" country in the industrial world. Seven of ten people, at least, are Christians of some variety. They should be able to express themselves religiously in the public square. Whether or not a National Day of Prayer is a good idea, is another question entirely.

 

[fedup100]

Why is there a law that says the President has to pray Christian prayers with everybody today?

I didn't see the clip. I dunno how much they railed against Christianity.. I'm not against Christians, but I don't really see this as a Christian nation either. I know way too many people who are NOT Christian.

And now you know why she's in the shitter, hows that working for you?

 

[fedup100]

Why such hatred of all things Christian????

Obama was quite open about having the first ever Passover Seder in the White House, so why all the fuss about praying with a bunch of Christians???

Hmmm...let's have a closer look at Obama's kosher handlers

Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel (his dad was an Israeli terrorist)
Chief Adviser David Axelrod
Budget Director Peter Orzag
Treasury Secretary Tim Geitner
Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke
Economic adviser Larry Summers
Economic adviser Robert Rubin
Economic adviser Robert Reich
Economic adviser Paul Volcker
Fed adviser Alan Greenspan
House banking Chairman Barney Frank.
Obama money man George Soros

oy vey!

The answer to the question is, he is not a christian. That phony church he went to was a front for a Muslim church. I have never heard reverend Wright EVER utter the name of Jesus, not once. Any Christian that voted for this liar deserves what they are getting.

Secondly, the fake jew owns us and their "real" religion of anti-christ will be practiced and put before you.

 

[PaulaGem]

I liked the

Fundamentalist Christians need to realize that every time they they claim this country for "Christianity" they contribute to a backlash that they then percieve as "persecution of Christians".

The concept of this country as "Judeo-Christian" relates is cultural NOT religious. There is a difference.

The founding concept behind the formation of this country is rule by consent of the governed - not which religious mythology you buy into. I liked the Maddox piece and totally agree.

By the way, I am a Christian, but I fellowship with people of Spirit no matter what path they follow. Christianity is part of my cultural heritage, just like being Scots-Irish, I also believe that it is "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" to try to direct the Spriritual Path of another (like trying to evangelize them). Share the Light that is within you and God will bless you and those around you.

 

[nate895]

Fundamentalist Christians need to realize that every time they they claim this country for "Christianity" they contribute to a backlash that they then percieve as "persecution of Christians".

The concept of this country as "Judeo-Christian" relates is cultural NOT religious. There is a difference.

The founding concept behind the formation of this country is rule by consent of the governed - not which religious mythology you buy into. I liked the Maddox piece and totally agree.

By the way, I am a Christian, but I fellowship with people of Spirit no matter what path they follow. Christianity is part of my cultural heritage, just like being Scots-Irish, I also believe that it is "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" to try to direct the Spriritual Path of another (like trying to evangelize them). Share the Light that is within you and God will bless you and those around you.

Evangelizing is a duty of all Christians. You are supposed to show people the light of the Lord when you get the opportunity to do so.

 

[fisharmor]

As a Christian, churchgoing man, I would like to inform you all that I have almost nothing in common with fedup100.

And that is the problem with the national day of prayer.

Coaxing a believing Christian of one denomination into praying with a Christian of another denomination was, at a point in history not too long ago, grounds for trading matchlock volleys.

The separation of Church and State was not meant to protect the secular. It is meant to protect fedup100 and fisharmor from each other.

 

[nate895]

As a Christian, churchgoing man, I would like to inform you all that I have almost nothing in common with fedup100.

And that is the problem with the national day of prayer.

Coaxing a believing Christian of one denomination into praying with a Christian of another denomination was, at a point in history not too long ago, grounds for trading matchlock volleys.

The separation of Church and State was not meant to protect the secular. It is meant to protect fedup100 and fisharmor from each other.

I believe in the separation of church and state, but people take the "wall of separation" Jefferson spoke of as a concrete mass that is totally impenetrable. At some point, it goes from separation of church and state to state-recognized atheism. Christianity should be able to be expressed in government buildings, along with other religions. The wall should be full of windows and doors, not the solid concrete mass that surrounds a prison.

 

[dannno]

And now you know why she's in the shitter, hows that working for you?

Most Christians are statists. There are good Christians and there are good non-Christians.

 

[zach]

Hold up.

First, generalizing all people within a religion and calling them aggressively bigoted is not a good basis for an argument. It's like saying all politicians are crooked. However, generalizing a whole nation into being against one religion is not a good basis for feeling persecuted. It's like saying "Everybody's out to get me, and I'm so lonely" because you're wanting to be known as the moralistic soldier for God, when in reality, you might be looking self-righteous. There are crooks within every group that will work for a specific agenda in mind; however, this doesn't mean that the participants of the group are aware of or even care about the agenda. Some are just wanting to be happy with their lives.

IMHO.

 

[Annihilia]

As a Christian, churchgoing man, I would like to inform you all that I have almost nothing in common with fedup100.

And that is the problem with the national day of prayer.

Coaxing a believing Christian of one denomination into praying with a Christian of another denomination was, at a point in history not too long ago, grounds for trading matchlock volleys.

The separation of Church and State was not meant to protect the secular. It is meant to protect fedup100 and fisharmor from each other.

Well said. Finally some sanity in this thread.

I don't particularly have a problem if Obama, Bush, or any public official prays to Jesus, Allah, or Odin. As an atheist I don't think there is anything I could care less about as it affects me in no way.

I know enought about religion to say that spiritual matters are inherently personal. To mix church and state will only corrupt the former as the state is already a vessel of power abuse.

Look what happened to something as noble and pure as charity.. We got social security and the rest of the welfare state out of it.

 

[Uriel999]

Why is there a law that says the President has to pray Christian prayers with everybody today?

I didn't see the clip. I dunno how much they railed against Christianity.. I'm not against Christians, but I don't really see this as a Christian nation either. I know way too many people who are NOT Christian.

Actually it was a very well done piece. It in no way attempted to "rail" against Christianity.

 

[Ozwest]

I'm an Atheist.

I read Thomas Jefferson, and don't feel excluded.

Those of you who are fixated.

Pull your heads out.

 

[silverhawks]

There should NOT be a National Day of Prayer.

Separation of church and state is there for a reason, and freedom of religion is there for a reason as well. It was to respect the right of a person to practice their religion freely, amongst like-minded people, and for the state and individuals to respect that right and inherent privacy.

Something that is private should not be nationalised.

And is it me or do we have National Days for just about everything now?

 

[diggronpaul]

Why such hatred of all things Christian????

Obama was quite open about having the first ever Passover Seder in the White House, so why all the fuss about praying with a bunch of Christians???

Now that's interesting. Are they attempting to create division between Jews and non-jews as one line of demarcation?

It's aways about inserting wedges into society so that we fight against ourselves. Seems they're pitting believers versus non-believers, denomination against denomination, and jew versus non-jew?

Am I seeing this right?

 

[Ozwest]

If you guys insist on praying.

Bad news. You are too late.

 

[silverhawks]

Now that's interesting. Are they attempting to create division between Jews and non-jews as one line of demarcation?

It's aways about inserting wedges into society so that we fight against ourselves. Seems they're pitting believers versus non-believers, denomination against denomination, and jew versus non-jew?

Am I seeing this right?

No, I see that all the time. That's the public face of the "culture war".

 

[Ozwest]

It must be worrying for America, being the world's guiding light.

I especially enjoy be reminded, as often as possible.