This movement is bigger than Ron Paul, it is about spreading the message of liberty!

[Travlyr]

Ive lost my wealth my home and my free market job and I haven't felt so liberated in a long time. My ultimate goal is to completely fend for myself

gold is heavy, I don't want anything that is going to weigh me down

for you all liberty is something you put on for me its something I was born with

I don't see liberty as something I put on. I see liberty as dealing with each other peacefully and honestly without the chains of tyranny binding me.

 

[specsaregood]

gold is heavy, I don't want anything that is going to weigh me down

Really? its at 1700/oz. What else do you have that packs so much worth into such a small size and weight?

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

You forgot to count the weight of worrying about it

 

[heavenlyboy34]

True but when, if ever, will we see a torch bearer like Ron Paul?

This is a man who is truly incorruptible with a record that spans decades not months or a few years.

We KNOW we can trust Ron Paul.

One day, someone may come along with similar ideals, but there will almost assuredly never be another Ron Paul. No one who will have such an incredible knowledge of the economy, honor the Constitution, defend our civil liberties and condemn our overseas empire with such devotion.

So it is vital that we get him into the White House.

This^^

 

[heavenlyboy34]

gold is heavy, I don't want anything that is going to weigh me down

That's what cheques and gold-backed notes are for.

 

[Tod]

So there for freedom is contingent upon leadership to dictate freedom?

yeah right

The White house is paltry, this is an Intellectual revolution, not a change in power.

Though we definantely need less corruption, you have to kill the desire to be corrupt first

You completely missed my point.

Also, your statement about killing the desire to be corrupt completely ignores the nature of man.

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

my gold mine is simple satisfaction

Lady Liberty kissed me as a boy and I haven't been able to get her off of my mind not even after 22 years of marriage to another woman

 

[Travlyr]

Here is an article in pdf written by Howard Buffet's father that explains how honest sound money liberates.

Excerpts,

Human Freedom Rests on Gold Redeemable Money by HON. HOWARD BUFFETT U. S. Congressman from Nebraska

I hold here a small packet of this second kind of money -- printing press paper money -- technically known as fiat money because its value is arbitrarily fixed by rulers or statute. The amount of this money in numerals is very large. This little packet amounts to CNC $680,000. It cost me $5 at regular exchange rates. I understand I got clipped on the deal. I could have gotten $2½ million if I had purchased in the black market. But you can readily see that this Chinese money, which is a fine grade of paper money, gives the individual who owns it no independence, because it has no redemptive value.

Under such conditions the individual citizen is deprived of freedom of movement. He is prevented from laying away purchasing power for the future. He becomes dependent upon the goodwill of the politicians for his daily bread. Unless he lives on land that will sustain him, freedom for him does not exist.

[...]

I warn you that politicians of both parties will oppose the restoration of gold, although they may outwardly seemingly favor it. Also those elements here and abroad who are getting rich from the continued American inflation will oppose a return to sound money. You must be prepared to meet their opposition intelligently and vigorously. They have had 15 years of unbroken victory.

But, unless you are willing to surrender your children and your country to galloping inflation, war and slavery, then this cause demands your support. For if human liberty is to survive in America, we must win the battle to restore honest money.

There is no more important challenge facing us than this issue -- the restoration of your freedom to secure gold in exchange for the fruits of your labors.

 

[azxd]

Really? its at 1700/oz. What else do you have that packs so much worth into such a small size and weight?

Bullets !!!
A 22 can get you lunch.

Gold is hard to eat

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Bullets !!!
A 22 can get you lunch.

Gold is hard to eat

But gold is portable/tradable.

If you shoot a squirell with your .22 you must trade it for corn or a table or axe or whatever before it spoils. And just maybe they don't want a squirel.

 

[azxd]

But gold is portable/tradable.

If you shoot a squirell with your .22 you must trade it for corn or a table or axe or whatever before it spoils. And just maybe they don't want a squirel.

You could also eat it, and for their cost, you could trade off a bunch of them, and still have plenty of them left for the next hunt.

Dig around here - http://ferfal.blogspot.com/ or just buy his book.
For that matter, unless it was taken down by request, most of his book was posted here, before he turned it into a book.

Gold is basically worthless in a major economic collapse, and junk gold will have the same value as the better stuff, while you'll need to find a big city exchange place if you want to barter bullion.

But things that allow for defense and hunting will be invaluable.

Gold is really nothing more than a bet against current currency forms, and for all we know, if things go far south, gold might have no value at all.

 

[Johnny Appleseed]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to azxd again.

it may be the most ya get for a bar of gold is a loaf of bread

adaptability endurance and luck are the best commodities.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

You could also eat it, and for their cost, you could trade off a bunch of them, and still have plenty of them left for the next hunt.

Dig around here - http://ferfal.blogspot.com/ or just buy his book.
For that matter, unless it was taken down by request, most of his book was posted here, before he turned it into a book.

Gold is basically worthless in a major economic collapse, and junk gold will have the same value as the better stuff, while you'll need to find a big city exchange place if you want to barter bullion.

But things that allow for defense and hunting will be invaluable.

Gold is really nothing more than a bet against current currency forms, and for all we know, if things go far south, gold might have no value at all.

Yep, you are right about that in a total collapse scenario. Tobacco, sugar, salt, milk, meat, bullets of various callibers will be worth alot.

But is that what we are discussing, armegedon scenario, or how it ought to be now?

This seems a mixed up tangled discussion.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

my goal is not just to join the GOP, that would be good, but we cant really say that any of the two parties are congruent with the freedom message.

Though I will run for political office I will run based on ideas not on a two party paradigm/false dichotomy

Of course the GOP doesn't represent the freedom message.

That's why we have to take it over.

We take it over and the sky is the limit.

 

[Massachusetts]

Of course the GOP doesn't represent the freedom message.

That's why we have to take it over.

We take it over and the sky is the limit.

I'm honestly of the impression that it is coming very soon..the GOP as we know it (neo-cons) is going to collapse. The country just isn't buying the propaganda as much as they used to. It's coming.

 

[pacelli]

How did spreading the message of liberty evolve into a discussion about whether gold can be orally consumed?

LOL you guys and gals crack me up. 2 days before super tuesday. LOL hey what about silver!!?