This is where I close my eyes and pretend the world isn't there.

Nanerbeet

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After todays comments about how fascism will be delivered to us in a trojan package, dressed up in a flag, carrying cross and pandering to the people, I am left with choice but to turn off the intertubes, close my eyes and turn away.


I am very saddened by my decision, but I would rather bury my head in the sand than risk losing the love of my life. I can't allow politics, Fox News, and media pundits like Sean Hannity to create turmoil in our marriage and in our lives.


Todays comments didn't go over so well; I felt a fracture in our relationship like a broken bone when Paul delivered that uppercut which left me blindsided. My intelligent, beautiful, loving and caring wife equated those comments with Romneys direct attack on Mormons; that they are as anti-american as any anti-war activist who says the terrorists are freedom fighters. Those words, in her misguided interpretation of them, demonstrate his true colors.


Its not her fault; She just doesn't understand the context of his meaning; she doesn't understand that what Ron Paul said, in plain english, is "Those who would enter our homes and do us harm would present themselves as a friend; someone we can trust, by enthusiastically selling themselves and associating with the same principles that define us."


I place the blame directly on Fox news. They casually tossed a loaded question at Paul which bounced off and blew up in their faces, but unfortunately, it also blew up in the faces of honest God fearing, God loving conservatives who just don't get it. They don't see the MSM for who they are. They don't see through the deceptions. They don't associate their actions as being subversive, sinister. They only see what is on the surface; the surface which Ron Paul appeared to say, "Patriotic Christians are Fascists."


I am very hopeful for Ron Paul, for all of us, and I think he can win, and I also know that even if he doesn't get the nomination, it won't stop this movement. I feel everything has been set in motion, the sparkes have ignited the flames, this is the next great movement since the civil rights movement. We will reject facism. We will reject communism. We reject socialism. We will reject ALL forms of tyranny. We will have our freedom. That this is the greatest and freest nation on Earth. l will just have to hear about it after the fact and not try to be a part of it. I would rather be hand-cuffed in a prison, locked away in a torture cell, and dead and buried than to have these hard feelings between us.



I am very very saddened as I write this; and I am telling you only becase I needed to tell it to someone who would understand. I hope you understand. And I wish everyone the very best.


Go Ron Paul!! Go!
 
Paul quoted C.S. Lewis. A very well known Christian author.

Keep your eyes open. We need you. And just maybe you and yours need us as well..
 
My mother is a Christian conservative type, the one you'd think would be charmed by Huckabee. I asked her what she thought about Ron Paul's comment and she didn't think it was bad at all. She thinks he's somewhat of a fraud and insincere about his message. I think a lot of Christian conservatives believe this, they do not want Huckabee to win the primaries. Ron Paul's comment really wasn't that out of sync with what people are thinking about Huckabee.

There's nothing wrong with being patriotic and Christian. But Huckabee takes it to another level entirely and it's turning off a lot of people.
 
After todays comments about how fascism will be delivered to us in a trojan package, dressed up in a flag, carrying cross and pandering to the people, I am left with choice but to turn off the intertubes, close my eyes and turn away.


I am very saddened by my decision, but I would rather bury my head in the sand than risk losing the love of my life. I can't allow politics, Fox News, and media pundits like Sean Hannity to create turmoil in our marriage and in our lives.


Todays comments didn't go over so well; I felt a fracture in our relationship like a broken bone when Paul delivered that uppercut which left me blindsided. My intelligent, beautiful, loving and caring wife equated those comments with Romneys direct attack on Mormons; that they are as anti-american as any anti-war activist who says the terrorists are freedom fighters. Those words, in her misguided interpretation of them, demonstrate his true colors.


Its not her fault; She just doesn't understand the context of his meaning; she doesn't understand that what Ron Paul said, in plain english, is "Those who would enter our homes and do us harm would present themselves as a friend; someone we can trust, by enthusiastically selling themselves and associating with the same principles that define us."


I place the blame directly on Fox news. They casually tossed a loaded question at Paul which bounced off and blew up in their faces, but unfortunately, it also blew up in the faces of honest God fearing, God loving conservatives who just don't get it. They don't see the MSM for who they are. They don't see through the deceptions. They don't associate their actions as being subversive, sinister. They only see what is on the surface; the surface which Ron Paul appeared to say, "Patriotic Christians are Fascists."


I am very hopeful for Ron Paul, for all of us, and I think he can win, and I also know that even if he doesn't get the nomination, it won't stop this movement. I feel everything has been set in motion, the sparkes have ignited the flames, this is the next great movement since the civil rights movement. We will reject facism. We will reject communism. We reject socialism. We will reject ALL forms of tyranny. We will have our freedom. That this is the greatest and freest nation on Earth. l will just have to hear about it after the fact and not try to be a part of it. I would rather be hand-cuffed in a prison, locked away in a torture cell, and dead and buried than to have these hard feelings between us.



I am very very saddened as I write this; and I am telling you only becase I needed to tell it to someone who would understand. I hope you understand. And I wish everyone the very best.


Go Ron Paul!! Go!

Overreacting much?
 
I'm sorry your wife feels that way.


But go back and re watch the video after he said the quote he said

he essentially said that may not be mike huckaby but what he was saying is that you shouldn't be pandering with your god.

You shouldn't use your religious believes to garner support

By Mike Huckabee saying this is the season to remember christ blah blah is pandering

Just because you believe in Christ doesn't mean your the best man for the job
 
huckabee wants us to give up freedom for security, both reagan and the founders warned us of this.
 
I frankly don't give a damn how misguided and ignorant your intelligent wife is. I empathize, but as your post must be therapeutic for you, so is this for me.
 
you need to set your woman strait , or you need a divorce ..

+1

Sounds like you are already "in a prison, locked away in a torture cell, and dead and buried[.]"

I'd rather live with someone who actually understands whats important in this world, than just live with someone because they fill some physical nitch you require.

Good luck in your prison.
 
Some people really need to toughen up and stop being so namby pamby. Some rules need to be thrown out the window if we are going to win this thing. I say dam the torpedo's, lets fire some of our own.
 
you should ask your wife what she thinks the comment meant and then explain to her what the quote actually means. dr. paul felt concern with the fact that people today are wrapping themselves in the flag and calling themselves patriots while at the same time leading this country to turmoil. anyone who questions this is seen as unpatriotic. that's the meaning of the first half of the quote. he also finds concern that politicians this primary season feel the need to carry the cross higher than the others when that shouldn't matter in politics. who's more christian than the other, who has a stronger faith in God, shouldn't be given the spotlight when trying to address this nation's issues. the fact that huckabee's ad reminded dr. paul of the quote relating to fascism coming wrapped in a flag carrying a cross should be a positive thing. because the direction people have been going is reflected greatly in that quote. I don't want to feel like I'm not patriotic or christian enough because of my political views, and neither should you.
 
Paul quoted C.S. Lewis. A very well known Christian author.

Keep your eyes open. We need you. And just maybe you and yours need us as well..

It was actually Sinclair Lewis. The problem with the OP is that they are taking Paul's statement as literal.

To the OP:

As someone who has studied rhetoric and metaphor, you have to understand WHY he said what he did, what the attributed quote's contexts were, and the context of Paul's utterance, not the snippet the media loves to attack. If you aren't able to do so, or critically think and decide these things, then yes, politics is probably too much of an endeavor for you or your wife.
 
Whoa! There is so much misinformation here it's ridiculous. I'll start from the top and I'll probably miss a few things:

1. "wife equated those comments with Romneys direct attack on Mormons"...Romney IS a mormon! i don't believe he attacked his own faith after he's been trying to defend it for so long.
2. "Paul quoted C.S. Lewis. A very well known Christian author" ...he quoted SINCLAIR Lewis, not Clive S Lewis (CS Lewis). They are two VERY different people.
 
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