This is what we are up against: A neocon explains his foreign policy

His entire premise depends on believing others abhor reason. Isn't that ironic?

The rest of it, the belief in it becoming your moral duty to bully people who don't believe the same as you, that thinking is pervasive in our culture. Some even wrap it in Christianity even though it's a serious cognitive dissonance to think that's following Christ.
 
Um. It was 'illegal' to not return slaves to their masters too. I, for one, would have proudly stood with John Brown as slavery was reprehensible.

But that's exactly my point, the moral crusader mentality which was developed at that time by religious extremism has been expanded to include events all over the Earth.
 
But that's exactly my point, the moral crusader mentality which was developed at that time by religious extremism has been expanded to include events all over the Earth.

I've never heard the antislavery movement called religious extremism. :(
 
I apologize if I misinterpreted your intent. Your use of :rolleyes: (rather than :) or :p) led me to think you were being serious (despite the self-deprecation in my OP).

After all, there be trollz on the Interwebz, so ... sorry, my bad.



No logical fallacies this time. But I must indulge my tendency to pedantry by defending myself against the inaccurate charge of overgeneralization. My statement didn't apply to *anyone* who "capitaliz[es] various Words and Phrases," but only to "[particular kinds of] fools" who do so. James Madison doesn't fall into that group, (Thus, my previous charge of consequent-affirmation.)

Oh, yeah, and: :):p:)

Oh boy! Was that really our miscommunication, an emoticon? I apologize. While choosing which smiley to add to my post, the blue faced smile struck my fancy, and I unknowingly choose the "sarcastic eye-roll". A simple mouse-over in your previous post was, believe it or not, where I first learned this meaning! Gotta love these here internets. :D

Regarding your clarification on your post I originally quoted, I am delighted to say that you are indeed correct and my apologies. I was led to stretch the truth in my own defense while I was under the impression the dialogue would surely take a turn to a less gentlemanly timbre.

Although, even had I been correct, it would be nearly impossible to want to refute you after that smiley fest! :):p:)
 
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The rhetoric behind moral crusading was advanced by the White Man's Burden concept most blatantly. There's a big difference between fighting for what is right and doing whatever abusive thing you feel like doing with an air of justification.
 
Oh boy! Was that really our miscommunication, an emoticon? I apologize. While choosing which smiley to add to my post, the blue faced smile struck my fancy, and I unknowingly choose the "sarcastic eye-roll". A simple mouse-over in your previous post was, believe it or not, where I first learned this meaning! Gotta love these here internets. :D

Yep. Pretty soon, we're gonna need emoticons for the clarification of our emoticons! :eek:

Regarding your clarification on your post I originally quoted, I am delighted to say that you are indeed correct and my apologies. I was led to stretch the truth in my own defense while I was under the impression the dialogue would surely take a turn to a less gentlemanly timbre.

Perfectly understandable. Been there, done that ...

Although, even had I been correct, it would be nearly impossible to want to refute you after that smiley fest! :):p:)

;):D
 
He doesn't realize America is the bully.

Exactly. Lots of great responses to this thread. When you see stuff like this you feel like angrily responding and name calling, as some have "safely" done here. But we must be good ambassadors for the cause of liberty. So, I'll attempt to do that when I respond to this guy. And I'll try to not waste too much time on him...
 
Working on my response: I want to effectively rebut the claim the US is moral with irrefutable statistics, so... anyone have suggestions? Preferably there would be an article written by the likes of Bruce Fein or Glenn Greenwald summarizing the answer, but... I'm all ears.
 
The NAIVE approach of reason?? Yeah, dude is a nut.

"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use our power, the greater it will be." - Thomas Jefferson
 
I was debating Paul's foreign policy on another forum. With a neocon, of course. Here he lays out his foreign policy principles; I wonder how many of the neocons think this way. ...

Is he serving combat duty? Neocons love to play the chickenhawk.
 
What I find most dangerous in that view is that America is portrayed as God and incapable of evil. It as well reveals that the Neo-Con does not really believe in God, otherwise why try to preempt his wrath?

Invasion and occupation is "defense".

"War is peace"

'We are doing Gods will'.



Sounds too much like a psychopathic mindset to me.
 
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