This is what we are up against: A neocon explains his foreign policy

[seraphson]

I couldn't honestly tell if that spiel was in the name of America or Nazi Germany. In my defense I don't see America mentioned once in his reasoning.

 

[BuddyRey]

In my mind, I read that collectivist screed in the voice of Prothero from V for Vendetta.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Is his original language German? So many capitalized words...

Good question.

 

[Elwar]

Tell him that if he does not vote for Ron Paul, you will slaughter him and his family after you get out of church on Sunday.

He should respect that.

 

[soulcyon]

So who is Iran bullying? AFAIK, his argument holds no water since United States seems to be the one throwing sanctions everywhere.

 

[airborne373]

This neocon is really a Trotskyite Communist following the interventionist policies of Woodrow Wilson and FDR. Sounds like Hitler, Mao or Stalin would also be an acceptable leader to this ideological follower of Irving Kristol. I have little doubt this communist is a chicken-hawk coward who never wore the uniform.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Whatever you do, don't read the Constitution.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Constitution_of_the_United_States,_page_1.jpg

Are you seriously suggesting that the drivel the OP quoted should be considered as a member of the same species exemplified by the U.S. Constitution?
Whatever you do, familiarize yourself with the fallacy of "affirming the consequent".

 

[Kingfisher]

We will promote democracy throughout the Middle East if we have to kill everyone there!

 

[cajuncocoa]

I don't think there's much you can say to someone with that pov. There are so many people who DON'T think like that who are ready to be converted...maybe they just don't know much about Ron Paul because the media has blacked us out. Those are the people we should be concentrating on to win votes. The neocons who worship Hannity and Limbaugh are just happy to waste our time. Seriously.

 

[LanceK37]

I couldn't honestly tell if that spiel was in the name of America or Nazi Germany. In my defense I don't see America mentioned once in his reasoning.

Nazi Germany didn't conquer other territories in the name of "moral responsibility", what the poster is writing about is a Calvinist mentality unique to America. Think of John Brown's illegal raid to "protest against slavery" and you can better understand the kind of moral crusader attitude that is preached in the Republican party today.

 

[LanceK37]

So who is Iran bullying? AFAIK, his argument holds no water since United States seems to be the one throwing sanctions everywhere.

Neocons don't think logically, they accuse Ron Paul of being like Neville Chamberlain and wanting to "appease" Iran when Iran hasn't actually conquered any foreign territory.

 

[PaulStandsTall]

Are you seriously suggesting that the drivel the OP quoted should be considered as a member of the same species exemplified by the U.S. Constitution?
Whatever you do, familiarize yourself with the fallacy of "affirming the consequent".

I was clearly making a joke, pointing out the irony in your overgeneralization of those " who thinks that capitalizing various Words and Phrases somehow makes what he is saying more Impressive" by presenting the unexpected evidence to the contrary.
Whatever you do, reply with a wiki linking to any logical fallacies included in this post.

 

[ExPatPaki]

Nazi Germany didn't conquer other territories in the name of "moral responsibility

So why did the Nazis do it? I saw a History Channel documentary on Hitler where they showed clips of Austrians cheering their Nazi liberators.

 

[tod evans]

I'm really glad this fellow feels that "HE" has a moral responsibility to promote his views of right-n-wrong on the rest of the planet.
I'm all for granting him the freedom to send his money and even his children to fight for the causes he believes in.

But please have the decency to allow me the same freedom.

The audacity to think that his moral compass is superior to mine, especially to the extent that he wants to force me to sacrifice my children and money in order to support his beliefs, leads me to question the basis of his alleged morality in the first place.

The true sign of a persons morality, in my opinion, is the ability to respect others beliefs while governing ones own behavior.

 

[Pericles]

Nazi Germany didn't conquer other territories in the name of "moral responsibility", what the poster is writing about is a Calvinist mentality unique to America. Think of John Brown's illegal raid to "protest against slavery" and you can better understand the kind of moral crusader attitude that is preached in the Republican party today.

That ^ While we don't like it, that is reality.

 

[WilliamC]

Too bad that the god he worships reminds me more of Satan than Christ.

I suppose the innocents killed in his 'Moral' wars are the blood sacrifice that Satan requires.

Of course if you point this out to him he probably won't be your friend anymore.

But he is evil, so you should think about it.

 

[LanceK37]

So why did the Nazis do it? I saw a History Channel documentary on Hitler where they showed clips of Austrians cheering their Nazi liberators.

Hitler was born in Austria so he had a lot of support there. The Nazis conquered territory for resources. In contrast, the average neocon in America supports worldwide wars for morality, they have the view that if any government in the world doesn't share "American values" they should be subject to regime change.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Nazi Germany didn't conquer other territories in the name of "moral responsibility", what the poster is writing about is a Calvinist mentality unique to America. Think of John Brown's illegal raid to "protest against slavery" and you can better understand the kind of moral crusader attitude that is preached in the Republican party today.

Um. It was 'illegal' to not return slaves to their masters too. I, for one, would have proudly stood with John Brown as slavery was reprehensible.

 

[GrahamUK]

Hitler was born in Austria so he had a lot of support there. The Nazis conquered territory for resources. In contrast, the average neocon in America supports worldwide wars for morality, they have the view that if any government in the world doesn't share "American values" they should be subject to regime change.

Yep that's exactly it... Imagine how different things might be if the likes of Iran and N.Korea would just submit to the corporations and allow themselves to be corrupted, how rude of them NOT to embrace Coca Cola,McDonald's burgers or Mountain Dew. We must invade the heathens and teach them their errors. How very dare these oppressive regimes even consider trading oil and other commodities with anything other than the all powerful United States Dollar! We have to surround these rogue nations with hundreds of military bases and point missiles at them, we have to blockade their ports and seas with massive warships, we have to impose strict sanctions on them as punishment. If all else fails we can bomb them into liking us!! But its OK cus then they'll be free, right?

 

[Occam's Banana]

I was clearly making a joke, pointing out the irony in your overgeneralization of those " who thinks that capitalizing various Words and Phrases somehow makes what he is saying more Impressive" by presenting the unexpected evidence to the contrary.

I apologize if I misinterpreted your intent. Your use of (rather than or ) led me to think you were being serious (despite the self-deprecation in my OP).

After all, there be trollz on the Interwebz, so ... sorry, my bad.

Whatever you do, reply with a wiki linking to any logical fallacies included in this post.

No logical fallacies this time. But I must indulge my tendency to pedantry by defending myself against the inaccurate charge of overgeneralization. My statement didn't apply to *anyone* who "capitaliz[es] various Words and Phrases," but only to "[particular kinds of] fools" who do so. James Madison doesn't fall into that group, (Thus, my previous charge of consequent-affirmation.)

Oh, yeah, and: