this is one of Rand's best speeches

[Warlord]

just my opinion

 

[fisharmor]

He's sticking it, for sure.

 

[Warlord]

he's striking a hawkish tone on Iran

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

The foreign policy part was hard to listen to.

 

[kahless]

I agree with Rand on FP in this speech.

 

[Havax]

It was his best ever. He has ZERO chance of getting elected without the strain of hawkish talk about Iran. Get used to it or enjoy Bush vs. Clinton once again.

 

[rg17]

It was his best ever. He has ZERO chance of getting elected without the strain of hawkish talk about Iran. Get used to it or enjoy Bush vs. Clinton once again.

He may not be perfect but, it is a step in the right direction.

 

[Warlord]

It was his best ever. He has ZERO chance of getting elected without the strain of hawkish talk about Iran. Get used to it or enjoy Bush vs. Clinton once again.

I know it's kinda hard to swallow especially with Ron sitting there.

 

[WD-NY]

ISO a YOUTUBE of STEVE SCHMIDT's review of the speech on MSNBC!!

Adjectives used include "flawless", "beautifully staged", "incredibly sophisticated" "tremendous resonance".

#updated list of adjectives

 

[Warlord]

overall one of his best.. he really nailed it at times

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

It was his best ever. He has ZERO chance of getting elected without the strain of hawkish talk about Iran. Get used to it or enjoy Bush vs. Clinton once again.

Yep. I know it's true. I (and probably many others) just won't be an enthusiastic supporter or donate. I'm sure he won't need us anyway. I'm also worried that if he wins, even though he clearly is NOT a libertarian, the liberty movement will become placated and it's reputation will be destroyed along with that of libertarianism. He warns against the GOP becoming Democrat light. I'm worried that he is taking the libertarian name and making it mean GOP lite (in the minds of pretty much the entire general public).

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

He may not be perfect but, it is a step in the right direction.

Just like Mitt Romney! At least thats what I was told by republicans 4 years ago.

 

[TaftFan]

Glad he called out radical Islam. Ignoring it would have been a horrible idea. As he said, "you can't get around it."

 

[LibertyExtremist]

Just like Mitt Romney! At least thats what I was told by republicans 4 years ago.

Except Romney wasn't a step in the right direction and Rand clearly is. The flip side to your above post is that he does a good job and opens the door for those that are more libertarian than himself.

 

[dannno]

Glad he called out radical Islam. Ignoring it would have been a horrible idea. As he said, "you can't get around it."

Especially when you spend trillions of dollars promoting it.

 

[Badger Paul]

"Get used to it or enjoy Bush vs. Clinton once again."

Actually I'm counting on it because only then will the LP have a chance to gain a foothold in U.S. politics. No offense to Rand and I wish him the best of luck but he's going on a fool's errand and its just going to end up bad for him I'm afraid.

 

[Warlord]

"Get used to it or enjoy Bush vs. Clinton once again."

Actually I'm counting on it because only then will the LP have a chance to gain a foothold in U.S. politics. No offense to Rand and I wish him the best of luck but he's going on a fool's errand and its just going to end up bad for him I'm afraid.

The LP will never gain a foothold anywhere. wake up from this delusion.

 

[Tunink]

The LP will never gain a foothold anywhere. wake up from this delusion.

Truth, unfortunately.

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

Except Romney wasn't a step in the right direction and Rand clearly is. The flip side to your above post is that he does a good job and opens the door for those that are more libertarian than himself.

His father was more libertarian than him. The trend is now going the other way. You can bet that if he's elected he's going to become even LESS libertarian once in office (gotta get that second term). Once the message and rhetoric becomes watered down, the policies are doomed. And then the unlibertarian policies become the new definition of libertarianism in the eyes of everyone else (see Reagan). Gradualism in theory is perpetuity in practice. I can't think of one politician whose actions were more libertarian than his rhetoric.

 

[LibertyExtremist]

His father was more libertarian than him. The trend is now going the other way. You can bet that if he's elected he's going to become even LESS libertarian once in office (gotta get that second term). Once the message and rhetoric becomes watered down, the policies are doomed. And then the unlibertarian policies become the new definition of libertarianism in the eyes of everyone else (see Reagan). Gradualism in theory is perpetuity in practice. I can't think of one politician whose actions were more libertarian than his rhetoric.

I agree, his father was more libertarian than him (at least if we go by what they say in public). That being said, I think Rand has principles and I think he will only go so far when it comes to stretching some of those principles. Maybe I'm being too hopeful, however, I hope I'm right.