THIS IS DISGUSTING - MASS DEL OUSTED

It looks to me like these delegates brought this on themselves. Does anyone know why they refused to send in their affidavits?
 
erowe1 said:
It looks to me like these delegates brought this on themselves. Does anyone know why they refused to send in their affidavits?
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again, my understanding is that is not correct but the party excuse. My understanding is they DID sign.
 
sailingaway said:
again, my understanding is that is not correct but the party excuse. My understanding is they DID sign.
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I hope you're right. It's one thing when kids on the internet spread rumors that Ron Paul supporters elected as bound delegates for Romney plan to turn around and vote for Paul on the first ballot. But the last thing Ron Paul needs is actual RNC delegates lending those rumors any credibility.
 
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DeMintConservative said:
I can't apply the purity test concept to this situation. I'm all in favour of state parties binding their delegates to the results of primary/conventions.
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Why not? It sounds exactly like a purity test from the rules committee. Can explain why you can't apply that concept to the rules committee?

Also, it sounds like you say you are NOT in favor of them following their own rules.
 
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DeMintConservative said:
I don't know what do you call "establishment" - anybody who doesnt' support Ron Paul or doesn't meet some purity test? - but they'll change the rules to make sure the preference of primary votes is enforced. Are you opposed to that? Do you think that the nominee should be picked by millions of primary voters and caucuses goers or the few people who care enough to go to state conventions and run/elect delegates?
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lol! I am much more literal to the words you were using than that. I mean those in place to make rules about how delegates are selected, in that instance.

And I prefer more people having a say but not if the information to them is filtered by those with an agenda. I can't make up my mind on this point, I am struggling with it right now.
 
erowe1 said:
I hope you're right. It's one thing when kids on the internet spread rumors that Ron Paul supporters elected as bound delegates for Romney plan to turn around and vote for Paul on the first ballot. But the last thing Ron Paul needs is actual RNC delegates lending those rumors any credibility.
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given the state of my information, it is possible no rule required AFFIDAVITS just votes, and the affidavits may have gone further than the rule..... which is to say, they might not have signed right away, but my understanding is they always said they would vote for Romney on the first ballot and they have signed the affidavits, before they were axed, I don't know the timing. And I don't know the precise wording of the affidavits or whether they went beyond what the rules required.
 
freedomordeath said:
http://bostonglobe.com/metro/2012/0...l-delegates/3xYwhZ5kbZuRMyMBlXy6EK/story.html

When I read the reasons why, its because they refused to sign an avidavid to support Mitt.

There was this feeling of total and utter disgust that one of them an 18 year patriot who beat out scum will not be seated because he didn't sign the avvidavid.



These poeple have lost all respect and common deceny this IS NOT A DEMOCRACY BUT A REPUBLIC, their vote rigged primary results are meaningless.
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It's nice to think so and argue from classical republican thought, but in practice you're incorrect. The last vestiges of republicanism were smashed long ago, primarily by direct election of Senators, the income tax, Lincoln et al's destruction of state soverignty, and the FED. Nowadays, people can and do vote themselves largesse, democracy-style.
 
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this is a REPUBLIC NOT A DEMOCRACY.... google trends and put romney and ron paul in and see the media coverage. Look around for mitt romney signs, look on the internet for all his supporters, you get loads Obama sheeple, but where is romneys die hard supporters. IT IS A BIG CON, the sheeple have Romney forced onto them, they didn't want him, but they were forced to pick him.. you know the whole lesser of 2 evils BS... if Rick Santorum got the 1st election victory momentum, who knows how things could have turned out. Thats why the delgate system is AWESOME, the delgates need to give speeches and need to defend their guy, its very good vetting procedure and nice thing is there are NO VOTING MACHINES.

Another way of looking at it is.... you as an individual were born free under the protection of the constitution, even if you have to go against 250million poeple, so be it. You have your gold and silver, stocked up with many cans of food, loaded weapon with the flag proudly flying outside your house and ready to defend the constitution both foreign and domestic and gve those 250million hell ;)
 
erowe1 said:
It looks to me like these delegates brought this on themselves. Does anyone know why they refused to send in their affidavits?
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Why should they? How can they make up rules as they go along or after the fact? What other rules could they come up with? Home ownership? Sexual preference affidavits? 50 push ups?
 
Where does this all end? What's next? What if tomorrow the RNC says Ron Paul delegates from Maine, Minnesota, and Iowa are not allowed in Tampa because they do not reflect the will of the voters in those states?
 
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