This guy thinks Ron Paul supporters would be better off voting for Obama than Romney
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GunnyFreedom
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In fact, I would argue that anybody who voted for RomBama is a traitor and an enemy of America, because any vote cast for someone that it is known they will abrogate, violate, or otherwise ignore the Constitution is a vote cast with the literal intention of transforming America into a ruined smoking crater of destroyed hopes dreams filled with millions upon millions of dead people and mangled corpses. JMHO.
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It's only a theory, but for the sinister cynic, it is a tempting one:
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Obama would be less likely to impose against Amendment 64 in Colorado if it does pass unlike Romney. I truly think that Romney thinks that Hemp and Marijuana are equivalent to Heroin. Obama is actually in some ways the better choice than Romney much like Aids is better than Ebola. This point I'm voting for Gary Johnson as I hope it is felt by the GOP.
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Yeah i'm really agreeing with this guy!
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Like Ron Paul? Avoid Mitt Romney
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...ney-article-1.1181097?localLinksEnabled=false
At a town hall event in Ohio last month, Rep. Paul Ryan was asked why supporters of Ron Paul — the iconoclastic congressman from Texas — should back this year’s Republican ticket.
Appearing offended by the implication, Ryan scolded: “Do you want Barack Obama to be reelected?” Paul is a actually “friend,” he claimed, and the two are in agreement on key issues.
Baloney. Paul is one of only three GOP House members to not endorse Mitt Romney — and there are several reasons for this.
(who are the other 2 ???)
Leave aside that Paul is a man of deep principle, while Romney appears to have never held a sincere belief in his life. More important are their governing visions, which stand in profound conflict.
Paul was moved to run in the 2008 Republican primary largely out of his disgust with President George W. Bush’s foreign policy. You may recall the preemptive invasion of Iraq?
America’s misadventures abroad, Paul posited, have engendered “blowback” (i.e., anti-American resentment) around the world. This, in turn, has put our security at risk.
His rivals for the nomination were predictably outraged by the suggestion. A bitter Rudy Giuliani recently told me that Paul was intent on “blaming America” for the 9/11 attacks.
Those inclined toward Giuliani’s hardline way of thinking constitute the lion’s share of Romney advisers. Liz Cheney takes part in weekly conference calls with the campaign; former Bush officials and consummate warhawks like John Bolton and Dan Senor are major players.
By voting for Romney, then, Paul supporters would be voting for a return to the same neoconservative philosophy that mired us in the Iraq disaster, costing countless lives and dollars.
President Obama may have authorized a drone war and escalated ground troops in Afghanistan, but at least he has avoided launching another full-scale invasion.
This is not a petty distinction. Romney routinely gives assurances that he’d be far more likely to appease Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has designs to attack Iran — perhaps in the coming months. Paul’s passions seem to be most enlivened by his unflinching opposition to aggressive war; for him, this dark prospect would be a nonstarter.
But the unbridgeable divide between Paul and the GOP is not limited to foreign policy.
Many supporters were first attracted to the congressman for his blunt words on the scourge of drug prohibition. Romney has failed to evince an iota of rationality on this front. In May, he was asked for his view on the legality of medical marijuana. “Aren’t there issues of significance you’d like to talk about?” he rebuffed.
Yes, it is true that under Obama, the Drug Enforcement Administration has continued to raid marijuana distribution facilities, while Marines have been deployed overseas on ill-advised drug interdiction missions.
But it’s equally true that Obama has demonstrated some measure of amenability to reform, at least rhetorically. The famously puritanical Romney would likely bring us back to the era of “Just Say No.”
If Paul supporters still believe their aims can be best advanced vis-à-vis the GOP, they are deluding themselves.
Rather than continue this abusive relationship, they must reevaluate — bearing in mind Paul’s track record of fruitful cooperation with the left, most notably Rep. Dennis Kucinich and Ralph Nader. Ron Paul faithful should thus take a cue from the man himself and reject Paul Ryan’s phony entreaties.
In states like New York, where the outcome is essentially predetermined, they should instead vote for a third-party candidate: Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party, Jill Stein of the Green Party, Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party or Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party.
In states that hang in the balance, such as Ohio, Florida or Virginia, they should pinch their noses and vote for President Obama — even if only to punish Romney, Ryan and the GOP.
Tracey is a journalist based in Brooklyn. He contributes to The Nation, The American Conservative, Salon and other publications.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...ney-article-1.1181097?localLinksEnabled=false
At a town hall event in Ohio last month, Rep. Paul Ryan was asked why supporters of Ron Paul — the iconoclastic congressman from Texas — should back this year’s Republican ticket.
Appearing offended by the implication, Ryan scolded: “Do you want Barack Obama to be reelected?” Paul is a actually “friend,” he claimed, and the two are in agreement on key issues.
Baloney. Paul is one of only three GOP House members to not endorse Mitt Romney — and there are several reasons for this.
(who are the other 2 ???)
Leave aside that Paul is a man of deep principle, while Romney appears to have never held a sincere belief in his life. More important are their governing visions, which stand in profound conflict.
Paul was moved to run in the 2008 Republican primary largely out of his disgust with President George W. Bush’s foreign policy. You may recall the preemptive invasion of Iraq?
America’s misadventures abroad, Paul posited, have engendered “blowback” (i.e., anti-American resentment) around the world. This, in turn, has put our security at risk.
His rivals for the nomination were predictably outraged by the suggestion. A bitter Rudy Giuliani recently told me that Paul was intent on “blaming America” for the 9/11 attacks.
Those inclined toward Giuliani’s hardline way of thinking constitute the lion’s share of Romney advisers. Liz Cheney takes part in weekly conference calls with the campaign; former Bush officials and consummate warhawks like John Bolton and Dan Senor are major players.
By voting for Romney, then, Paul supporters would be voting for a return to the same neoconservative philosophy that mired us in the Iraq disaster, costing countless lives and dollars.
President Obama may have authorized a drone war and escalated ground troops in Afghanistan, but at least he has avoided launching another full-scale invasion.
This is not a petty distinction. Romney routinely gives assurances that he’d be far more likely to appease Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has designs to attack Iran — perhaps in the coming months. Paul’s passions seem to be most enlivened by his unflinching opposition to aggressive war; for him, this dark prospect would be a nonstarter.
But the unbridgeable divide between Paul and the GOP is not limited to foreign policy.
Many supporters were first attracted to the congressman for his blunt words on the scourge of drug prohibition. Romney has failed to evince an iota of rationality on this front. In May, he was asked for his view on the legality of medical marijuana. “Aren’t there issues of significance you’d like to talk about?” he rebuffed.
Yes, it is true that under Obama, the Drug Enforcement Administration has continued to raid marijuana distribution facilities, while Marines have been deployed overseas on ill-advised drug interdiction missions.
But it’s equally true that Obama has demonstrated some measure of amenability to reform, at least rhetorically. The famously puritanical Romney would likely bring us back to the era of “Just Say No.”
If Paul supporters still believe their aims can be best advanced vis-à-vis the GOP, they are deluding themselves.
Rather than continue this abusive relationship, they must reevaluate — bearing in mind Paul’s track record of fruitful cooperation with the left, most notably Rep. Dennis Kucinich and Ralph Nader. Ron Paul faithful should thus take a cue from the man himself and reject Paul Ryan’s phony entreaties.
In states like New York, where the outcome is essentially predetermined, they should instead vote for a third-party candidate: Gary Johnson of the Libertarian Party, Jill Stein of the Green Party, Rocky Anderson of the Justice Party or Virgil Goode of the Constitution Party.
In states that hang in the balance, such as Ohio, Florida or Virginia, they should pinch their noses and vote for President Obama — even if only to punish Romney, Ryan and the GOP.
Tracey is a journalist based in Brooklyn. He contributes to The Nation, The American Conservative, Salon and other publications.
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I may borrow your language next time I make that point. I was, in retrospect, kinda hard on one blogger who was saying why Ron Paul supporters have to support Romney in order to support the Constitution.... she was only 20.
I basically said voters like her were the reason we have the loss of liberties like indefinite detention of citizens without trial, the Patriot Act and debt slavery to finance development projects funding the military industrial complex overseas, where the money wasn't even recirculating in our country. That voting for evil allows it to continue and gives it legitimacy.
I neglected to tell her that until I figured out which end was up, I voted the same way myself.... :o
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I just got my Official Sample Ballot
President/Vice President
Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan [Republican]
Gary Johnson/James Gray [Libertarian]
Roseanne Barr/Cindy Sheehan [Peace and Freedom]
Barack Obama/Joesph Biden [Democrat]
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala [Green]
Thomas Hoefling/Robert Ornelas [American Independent]
"Write In Candidates: Pursuant to Elections Code 8606, Write in votes are not authorized for Voter-nominated offices at the general election"
US Senator
Elizabeth Emken [R]
Dianne Feinstein [D]
US Rep
Joe Baca [D]
Gloria Negrete Mcleod [D]
State Assemby
Kenny Coble [R]
Norma Torres [D]
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Looks like I'll be voting for Gary Johnson. Possibly Obama (if Romney is doing good) to give Rand or another freedom candidate a chance in 2016.
President/Vice President
Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan [Republican]
Gary Johnson/James Gray [Libertarian]
Roseanne Barr/Cindy Sheehan [Peace and Freedom]
Barack Obama/Joesph Biden [Democrat]
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala [Green]
Thomas Hoefling/Robert Ornelas [American Independent]
"Write In Candidates: Pursuant to Elections Code 8606, Write in votes are not authorized for Voter-nominated offices at the general election"
US Senator
Elizabeth Emken [R]
Dianne Feinstein [D]
US Rep
Joe Baca [D]
Gloria Negrete Mcleod [D]
State Assemby
Kenny Coble [R]
Norma Torres [D]
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Looks like I'll be voting for Gary Johnson. Possibly Obama (if Romney is doing good) to give Rand or another freedom candidate a chance in 2016.
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Wow! That write in legend is really misleading!!! That is for the non presidential offices only, because electors are the candidate for president and it is by separate statute. Check Elections code Section 8650:
and 8651
and 8652
and 8653
hence my forms for elector and the directions, patterned on a 'sample' the secretary of state's office sent me to use:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/106853479/e... write in candidacy (plus directions) 002.bmp
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/106853479/REVISED Directions for submitting Ron Paul elector forms.docx
note that a similar effort was successful in 2008 - scroll down for the certified write in candidates:
http://www.lavote.net/Voter/PDFS/ELECTION_RELATED/11042008_LIST_WRITE_IN_CANDIDATES.pdf
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so i can still write in RP in california? ;s
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No way in hell would I vote for a Obama. I am sure this author also believes Obama is a Christian and deserves another Peace prize. 
Obama is pure evil. He is not a true liberal in the very sense of the word. Rather, he is what every other Democrat has become to be and that is a liberal fascist pig - a monster with a smiley face behind him.
Obama is pure evil. He is not a true liberal in the very sense of the word. Rather, he is what every other Democrat has become to be and that is a liberal fascist pig - a monster with a smiley face behind him.
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FTFY
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Ice cream would not fill the hole in my soul that would be burned into it by voting for either one of these reprehensible bastards.
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