"And our president is a fascist dictator. Of whom do you think is the nicer and more sincere person?"
George Bush is a corporatist, neocon fool, but hardly the literal interpretation of "fascist dictator." Chavez is a brutal dictator who silences opposition by killing them with his militia. That is a fact. Furthermore, the supporting of socialist ideals as Hugo Chavez does is far more evil than anything George Bush has done so far. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Bush, but you're way way out there with this comparison.
"Don't forget that Chavez was democratically elected by the people and the majority LOVE him as much as we love Ron Paul. He is teaching them how to read and learn their governments' Constitution ... which is their rule of law, and to learn about their rights."
Um, Bush was "democratically" elected as well. The U.S. is not now, nor was it ever intended to be a true democracy, but instead a Constitutional Republic based on the rule of law. Democratic tyranny is a thing the founders tried very hard to avoid, ie: 51% of the population telling 49% of the population how to live. People also loved Hitler, so just because people love Chavez now, doesn't mean anything. Furthermore, vast multitudes of Venezualans thoroughly understand what he is trying to do, and hate him. And... uh, "learn about their rights?" RIGHTS? What rights? You have NO rights under a socialist dictatorship. Nothing is yours, not even your own life. Everything is sacrificed for the "common good," ie: for the state, because someone else "needs," it. To speak of their "rights," is to speak of something that does not exist in Venezuala.
"Yes, they are a socialist country. But isn't our government? I could go on and on about how ours is too. Not to say it's supposed to be ... that's why I support Ron Paul. I hate socialism!"
You cannot simultaneously hate socialism and support Chavez. And no again, we are not a socialist country, ...yet. We are leaning that way. France, UK, Sweden, Canada, Mexico, etc. are all much more socialist than we are. For example, they all have socialized medicine, whereas we do not.
"It seems amazing to criticize harshly another duly elected leader of another country, if that's who their people want, and not emphasize the problem with our own "leader" ... if one dignifies Bush as that."
Why is it amazing? If their leader is a socialist dictator who wants to rule not by law, but by decree (as he currently does), it is right to criticize him, elected or not. This is starting to get into that moral relativist territory where "some things are right for us, and not right for other people." Socialism is a failed idea, no matter where it is or who wants it. If a majority of people want it, that does not make it right. As to us not emphasizing our problems with Bush.. uh... what? This is the Ron Paul forum. Quite clearly we are anti-Bush, no need to elaborate.
"Their people seem to like national oil (which a coup tried to steal for private big oil interests) and pay only 14 cents a gallon for gas."
Of course the poor people like nationalized oil, they do nothing to earn the profits, and yet they still see money for work they didn't do. Hooray socialism! The point is, SOMEONE is doing the work, SOMEONE is refining the oil. Are you saying that the people of Venezuala have a right to the work that they didn't do? It does not follow that if you happen to be born in a geographic region that is rich in natural resources, that you deserve a share of the profits. If I'm from the midwest U.S. where tons of corn and grain are grown every year, does that mean that I deserve a share of the money earned from the sale of the corn, simply because I live here, or that I "need" the money? It is an impossible argument.
They pay 14 "cents" a gallon for gas because their gas is heavily subsidized, ie: tax money (money taken by force from people who earned it) is used to pay for most of it before it gets to the consumer. It is an illusion.
"People need to stop listening to propaganda."
Well, I couldn't agree more.
"Let their people have the leader they WANT. That goes for us too.
I will elaborate more in another post."
Absolutely, let them have the leader they want. IF that's truly what they want, then let em have it.
Ok, I did my part and watched the film, now all I'd ask is that you read Atlas Shrugged, by late novelist Ayn Rand. Ron Paul is a huge fan. You should really check it out as it explains all of this much more thoroughly than I can.
