This email was brilliant from the Ron Paul campaign

[alucard13mmfmj]

The people we as a Liberty Movement have to be worried about now are the 110,000 Youth for Ron Paul Supporters.

I am shocked that Ron Paul would not continue to hold rallies on College Campus's to build the Liberty Movement in the outgoing years.

This is the most devastating part of "stupid" press release today. We shot ourselves in the proverbial foot if our goal is to continue building the Liberty Movement.

A HUGE BLUNDER!!!

college students cant fund the campaign.... the campaign probably realizes this so they cut and go the rallies. i know college students are the future of the movement, but it does not really benefit the campaign too much.
-college students are too poor or paying off tuition to donate
-college students too busy with school/job/relationship to do grassroots stuff
-college students at a college might not be able to vote in their district because their original address is out of state
-college students might just be going to rallies because it is the cool, hip thing to do, like Kony 2012

again, i do understand the importance of educating people.. maybe some might get involved in the delegate process at the conventions. maybe they might even join the grassroots. however, i imagine it is only a small portion of the 5,000-8,000 crowd that would go down this route.

 

[freedomordeath]

the Romney campaign aren't going anywhere, they hold the reigns of media power, they are not stupid and probably even have poeple in these forums, they will use every dirty trick, we need to start getting lawyers and prosecute the fraud, we just need to carry on.

 

[maxoutco]

I'm gonna post this here also from another thread, as I see it can apply here also.

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Ok, here is my speculation on this...

This statement from the Paul campaign has a huge purpose and just might be genius. We already have the media ignoring us, and we have a huge task to get the message out about our wins of delegates and our delegate strategy. I was really trying to think why the Paul campaign would have stooped to such low levels like this.

Well, here's why. We don't have to look that far back. Just at the last thing that pissed some/most people off. That was Doug Wead's major announcement that wasn't a major announcement. Man, that sure got a lot of people's attention. One thing that stuck out from what he facebook/tweeted though was he stated that the establishment GOP is making it sound like we are trying to backdoor this thing and going against the will of the party. He stated we needed a HUGE way to get out the message that Paul was winning the delegates fair and square.


Well, here ya go. We now have EVERY medium right now reporting national and local that Paul has dropped out or shifted direction. Yes, WE HAVE EVERY MEDIUM, FINALLY. What do medium's have. Comments! We now have a way (RP internet revolution) to inform the masses of people that Ron Paul is winning huge. The more we can report to people to start informing them, the less of a shocker it will be when ol' brokered convention (abstain) or the final win (unbound) comes around.

So use this message a blessing in disguise even if it wasn't meant to be, because we now have the national podium to inform the sheeple that we are here to stay.

>>>>

 

[AZ Libertarian]

The thing is... you didn't need an email to say any of that.
Not right before a supposedly needed money bomb...

I agree 100% with this sentiment.

It shouldn't have been sent like this. It shouldn't have been sent at all, even if that is what they plan to do.

If it is an intentional signal to the media and the Establishment, DON'T send it to the grass roots, dammit. Any pessimism shown only brings up bad memories from when he dropped out last time after assuring us he would 'go all the way' as long as the money was there (which it was) and we were behind him (which you can tell because we're STILL HERE!).

 

[Q11Q]

Exactly.

I'm gonna post this here also from another thread, as I see it can apply here also.

<<<<

Ok, here is my speculation on this...

This statement from the Paul campaign has a huge purpose and just might be genius. We already have the media ignoring us, and we have a huge task to get the message out about our wins of delegates and our delegate strategy. I was really trying to think why the Paul campaign would have stooped to such low levels like this.

Well, here's why. We don't have to look that far back. Just at the last thing that pissed some/most people off. That was Doug Wead's major announcement that wasn't a major announcement. Man, that sure got a lot of people's attention. One thing that stuck out from what he facebook/tweeted though was he stated that the establishment GOP is making it sound like we are trying to backdoor this thing and going against the will of the party. He stated we needed a HUGE way to get out the message that Paul was winning the delegates fair and square.


Well, here ya go. We now have EVERY medium right now reporting national and local that Paul has dropped out or shifted direction. Yes, WE HAVE EVERY MEDIUM, FINALLY. What do medium's have. Comments! We now have a way (RP internet revolution) to inform the masses of people that Ron Paul is winning huge. The more we can report to people to start informing them, the less of a shocker it will be when ol' brokered convention (abstain) or the final win (unbound) comes around.

So use this message a blessing in disguise even if it wasn't meant to be, because we now have the national podium to inform the sheeple that we are here to stay.

>>>>

 

[The Free Hornet]

Rand already said his dad isn't going to win the nomination, I think this email is the beginning of the "break it to them gently" stage.

What is the source for this? Include the exact quote ("said" what?).

 

[wizardwatson]

What is the source for this? Include the exact quote ("said" what?).

See video on this thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?375660

Quote is:

"Thousands of people are showing up to see a guy and hear a guy who isn't going to win the nomination." - Rand Paul (@ 4:29)

 

[maninblack]

Exactly.

now that's some spin. Kudos though for trying to polish this turd.

 

[The Free Hornet]

If it is an intentional signal to the media and the Establishment, DON'T send it to the grass roots, dammit.

Is this practical? Do they have an email list labeled "establishment" and one labeled "grass roots"? I'm not being a smartass. With a mass release of information, how do you target one group and not the other? At best you delay the transfer of knowledge for a few minutes. I like Ron Paul but he has no secret way of communicating with me. I bet Romney has Ron Paul donors on his campaign for no other reason than to get information faster. Paul may have people that do the same (donate a few bucks to a candidate, get emails and strategy info sooner).

Any pessimism shown only brings up bad memories from when he dropped out last time after assuring us he would 'go all the way' as long as the money was there (which it was) and we were behind him (which you can tell because we're STILL HERE!).

There was little pessimism aside from the implied lack of tens of millions of dollars. The media misinterpreted the press release - likely on purpose - and you are reacting to the reaction. In 2008, Ron Paul held an alternative convention and started the "Campaign for Liberty". I don't expect 2012 to end with a whimper.

Hell, I feel like we are being played by the MSM. It won't end well for the MSM as they make themselves increasingly useless and unreliable. I had two coworkers tell me Ron Paul ended his campaign. I knew was pure BS even though I have been off the forums all day. Honestly, I thought it was BS unless there was a serious health or family emergency. There wasn't. BS story is BS. Don't buy it.

 

[ericthethe]

We are better off when we are not on the radar. The establishment will have their heads in the cloud and we can continue getting delegates at State Conventions.

If Ron Paul went up and said "I'm going to kick Romney's ass" then Romney's supporters will show up at the conventions in droves.

I was worried that the establishment will catch on to our delegate strategy but now this keep us off the radar, so lets look to the conventions this weekend.

I didn't think about it from this angle. Nice.

Then you thought correctly the first time because this angle is retarded and reeks of denial and desperation.

 

[The Free Hornet]

See video on this thread: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?375660

Quote is:

"Thousands of people are showing up to see a guy and hear a guy who isn't going to win the nomination." - Rand Paul (@ 4:29)

Thanks. Rand might have been speaking casually as if to say, "thousands are showing up to see a guy nobody thinks will win the nomination". However, as he worded it, it is stupid. I would not take it as the gospel truth just because it is Rand Paul.

Also, Rand is playing a dangerous game with establishment and I think that statement shows either a disregard to the effect of words or he is courting the insider crowd to be the "safe" liberty candidate. He could be like the grape Mr Miyagi (Karate Kid) speaks of, not walking to the right or the left but getting squashed in the middle.

 

[papitosabe]

ok, so he's not spending money on any remaining primary states...so how many caucus states are left?

edit...found it...so the only caucus states left are 6/01-6/10 - Nebraska, Caucus
6/14-6/16 - Montana, Caucus

so he's only going to campaign in these 2 states from now til then???

 

[VBRonPaulFan]

if the grassroots that's supposed to be in the know is confused by this, what do you think all the soft support thinks? exactly what the media is narrating it as - that's what. that Paul is out. poor move, imo.

 

[parocks]

college students cant fund the campaign.... the campaign probably realizes this so they cut and go the rallies. i know college students are the future of the movement, but it does not really benefit the campaign too much.
-college students are too poor or paying off tuition to donate
-college students too busy with school/job/relationship to do grassroots stuff
-college students at a college might not be able to vote in their district because their original address is out of state
-college students might just be going to rallies because it is the cool, hip thing to do, like Kony 2012

again, i do understand the importance of educating people.. maybe some might get involved in the delegate process at the conventions. maybe they might even join the grassroots. however, i imagine it is only a small portion of the 5,000-8,000 crowd that would go down this route.

Rallies are also a bit of an attractive nuisance. Ron Paul supporters fill their tank with $4 a gallon gasoline and drive hours to see Ron Paul speak. If msm mentioned every time RP got 10x as many people at a rally as Romney, then it would be "earned media". But they never mentioned those huge rallies. And they never really made the most of those huge rallies. People weren't roped into signing up on the email list, or registering, or contributing, in the numbers that it would be really really useful.

 

[parocks]

if the grassroots that's supposed to be in the know is confused by this, what do you think all the soft support thinks? exactly what the media is narrating it as - that's what. that Paul is out. poor move, imo.

Are we counting on soft support to go to the conventions? My guess is no.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

Rallies are also a bit of an attractive nuisance. Ron Paul supporters fill their tank with $4 a gallon gasoline and drive hours to see Ron Paul speak. If msm mentioned every time RP got 10x as many people at a rally as Romney, then it would be "earned media". But they never mentioned those huge rallies. And they never really made the most of those huge rallies. People weren't roped into signing up on the email list, or registering, or contributing, in the numbers that it would be really really useful.

4 dollar gas couldve been donation money ^^ hehe

 

[parocks]

ok, so he's not spending money on any remaining primary states...so how many caucus states are left?

edit...found it...so the only caucus states left are 6/01-6/10 - Nebraska, Caucus
6/14-6/16 - Montana, Caucus

so he's only going to campaign in these 2 states from now til then???

No.

Conventions.

Like, just this past weekend. - Arizona, Oklahoma, Virginia.
And the weekend before - Maine, Nevada.

Getting our people in as the delegates, that's the plan.

There are 5 (I think) this coming weekend. We don't really do all that great in the "people voting in voting booths" part. We do well in the "drive hours, spend days" part.

 

[parocks]

4 dollar gas couldve been donation money ^^ hehe

That's the exact point I was trying to make. Opportunity costs.

 

[awake]

If any one is counting, we were supposedly out of this race hundreds if not thousands of times ago. We don't listen very well, just ask the Republican party "leadership".

Like a weasel stuck on an electric fence - we got them shaking.

 

[Kirdneh]

Truthfully, I think Ron's been overwhelmed ...He's got to remove himself at some level before it really gets good

Absolutely right, the best comment of the day. Nearly all crazy successes go beyond the imagination of their creator. Most primary elections 2012 already doubled 2008. I also think the campaign must have had a plan/knowledge which funds to expect. Todays announcer is nothing but repeating whats already been said: no campaigning in primary states!

'Dropping out' (thats what it is painted) just in that week with so many state conv ahead doesnt make any sense other than deceiving the opponent. Especially since conv went so well until now.

This will get funny when they have to drag him to the microphone in Tampa! With RP going underneath radars he could sweep most of this weeks conventions , run into an effective delegate lead, take that into TX to win it and add all up for CA. That could easily make Romney clear for the first dropout of the quartet at 7th of June. Got to play that on intrade!

All fantasy, but this weeks conventions will tell it all.