things people should stop saying on these fourms...

[AmericaFyeah92]

I, like all Ron Paul supporters, support free speech. But if we all want to actually help Dr. Paul's campaign, there are things that should would be better left untyped, because rivals WILL use this site as political ammo if they haven't already. Its your decision ultimately, but i know lots of my fellow Paulites agree that there are way too many of the following on this forum:

-9/11 was an inside job/conspiracy
-Al Qaeda is a "branch" of the CIA (yes we did help the Afghan mujehedin, but Al Qaeda was formed AFTER the soviet withdrawal)
-the term "Zionist"


Not only do none of things have real evidence to back them up, but Ron Paul has given no indication that he believes them. It basically amounts to spamming.

 

[Rebel Resource]

"Not only do none of things have real evidence to back them up"

Faither?

 

[Hancock1776]

As long as we're talking about fringe things that may harm the reputation of Dr. Paul, I think links to that infernal Zeitgeist movie should be kept at least 500 yards away from this website. The second and third parts of it (about monetary policy and fascism) I'm completely on board with, but the complete and total nonsense in Part 1 about Christianity is the most inexcusable form of intellectual dishonesty I have ever seen. Let's not risk the press associating Ron Paul with people who think Christianity=Astrological paganism.

If Zeitgeist Part 1 is all you know about the real evidence for Christ, then your research is incomplete.

 

[The One]

I, like all Ron Paul supporters, support free speech. But if we all want to actually help Dr. Paul's campaign, there are things that should would be better left untyped, because rivals WILL use this site as political ammo if they haven't already. Its your decision ultimately, but i know lots of my fellow Paulites agree that there are way too many of the following on this forum:

-9/11 was an inside job/conspiracy
-Al Qaeda is a "branch" of the CIA (yes we did help the Afghan mujehedin, but Al Qaeda was formed AFTER the soviet withdrawal)
-the term "Zionist"


Not only do none of things have real evidence to back them up, but Ron Paul has given no indication that he believes them. It basically amounts to spamming.

LMAO........I'm typing a list of things that shouldn't be typed on this forum. I'll be posting them on the forum. Very well thought out, sir.

 

[wildflower]

As long as we're talking about fringe things that may harm the reputation of Dr. Paul, I think links to that infernal Zeitgeist movie should be kept at least 500 yards away from this website. The second and third parts of it (about monetary policy and fascism) I'm completely on board with, but the complete and total nonsense in Part 1 about Christianity is the most inexcusable form of intellectual dishonesty I have ever seen. Let's not risk the press associating Ron Paul with people who think Christianity=Astrological paganism.

If Zeitgeist Part 1 is all you know about the real evidence for Christ, then your research is incomplete.

So true. It's a shame that a "documentary" can have some truth to it, but then also put out very misleading or false information. To me, that's just as bad as the lies our enemies put out, and possibly worse, because it can have very serious consequences.

 

[Feelgood]

As long as we're talking about fringe things that may harm the reputation of Dr. Paul, I think links to that infernal Zeitgeist movie should be kept at least 500 yards away from this website.

+1000

Im quite sick of all the 9/11 Truthers
People calling for a third party run as well.

Go away all ready!

 

[smoke.stack]

baaaaa

 

[ErikBlack]

I think people should stop saying what other's should say.

I understand that there are certain ideas that scare the sheeple. But if you pander to their fear and ignorance you only encourage more of the same behavior. I'm not saying that any of these controversial subjects are true, but it is good for people to hear them because it starts the gears in their heads churning again. Even if its only to get them all mad and riled up, at least they are thinking again! At least they know that a counter claim to their version of the truth exists and things may not always be as they seem and are reported on the news.

When presented with both sides of the argument they can make a judgment. When presented with only one side they have no choice but to blindly accept what is dictated to them. If that pisses them off it's their hangup. Real truth isn't delivered to you daily through a box in your living room. It requires a little more mental effort than that.

Contrary to the claims of the OP I think that discussing these controversial issues is very helpful to the Ron Paul campaign, because the campaign is about WAKING PEOPLE UP from their apathetic slumber, not singing them a lullaby while they continue to sleep. They may not agree that 911 is an inside job or whatever, but at least they will think about it, and while they are in a questioning mode maybe they will start questioning other things in their life, such as their political views.

 

[GravitysRainbow]

Telling people to be quiet seems like a mistake. The last thing we need to do is emulate the Masons who got us into this situation in the first place.

 

[Dr.3D]

Telling people to be quiet seems like a mistake. The last thing we need to do is emulate the Masons who got us into this situation in the first place.

Shhh... it's a secret.

 

[rickcain]

Supporters should avoid these as well...

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[Joe3113]

As long as we're talking about fringe things that may harm the reputation of Dr. Paul, I think links to that infernal Zeitgeist movie should be kept at least 500 yards away from this website. The second and third parts of it (about monetary policy and fascism) I'm completely on board with, but the complete and total nonsense in Part 1 about Christianity is the most inexcusable form of intellectual dishonesty I have ever seen. Let's not risk the press associating Ron Paul with people who think Christianity=Astrological paganism.

If Zeitgeist Part 1 is all you know about the real evidence for Christ, then your research is incomplete.

I smell some bible thumpers in this thread........

QUICK! Get the fly spray!!

 

[noztnac]

Here are a few better quotes to use.


A people free to choose will always choose peace.
Ronald Reagan

Great is the guilt of an unnecessary war.
John Adams

I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind.
Thomas Jefferson

Vote Ron Paul 2008!

 

[Ilhaguru]

I, like all Ron Paul supporters, support free speech. But if we all want to actually help Dr. Paul's campaign, there are things that should would be better left untyped, because rivals WILL use this site as political ammo if they haven't already. Its your decision ultimately, but i know lots of my fellow Paulites agree that there are way too many of the following on this forum:

-9/11 was an inside job/conspiracy
-Al Qaeda is a "branch" of the CIA (yes we did help the Afghan mujehedin, but Al Qaeda was formed AFTER the soviet withdrawal)
-the term "Zionist"


Not only do none of things have real evidence to back them up, but Ron Paul has given no indication that he believes them. It basically amounts to spamming.

Not to mention, these things give too much credit to the government. It assumes they have a brain when in fact they do not.

They are not smart enough to pull this stuff out, much less covertly.

 

[jyakulis]

So true. It's a shame that a "documentary" can have some truth to it, but then also put out very misleading or false information. To me, that's just as bad as the lies our enemies put out, and possibly worse, because it can have very serious consequences.

what are the misleading parts? i think the movie has a very strong messag, especially at the end. i think there is a god/supreme being/prime creator, but i don't think salvation is achieved by the belief that one man is going to save you. that's looking to much outside yourself when i believe salvation lies within...man must first win the battle within himself.

i think it's kind of like what dr. paul says: it's not ME, it's the MESSAGE. i think there are plenty of good teachings in christianity and in the bible, but to believe it is completely pure and has not been perverted by people through the centuries of its existance is a little naive if you ask me.

i think people should question everything they are told and decide for themselves. i've never posted links to any of these movies, but i do see your point that people not familiar with dr. paul or his message could be offended by movies like these and quite frankly there are plenty of other places to plug this sort of stuff.

but to think that you can control 15-20k individuals that post on this board is ludicrous just like the government thinking they can fully control each and every aspect of your life. i don't know man, take it up with an admin of the board if it bothers you that much, they could always ban or warn these individuals. take down names and email the admin...take responsibility, but don't hand down mandates to each and every member of the board.

 

[KevinDW78]

i think there are plenty of good teachings in christianity and in the bible, but to believe it is completely pure and has not been perverted by people through the centuries of its existance is a little naive if you ask me.

Here! Here!

I don't want to get into a religious debate, but I will quote Carl Sagan - "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Virgin Births? Arks? Staffs into snakes? Parting of seas? Ever wonder why these things are limited to the realm of the ancient past and never in the modern, scientific age?

 

[seeker1]

I was typing my own list of things that shouldn't typed in this forum and I came to the one where there shouldn't be people allowed to make lists of things people can't type on this forum and I was in a quandary.

That's a state of uncertainty or perplexity for those of you without a dictionary handy.

Thanks for the laugh.

Like calling someone a 9/11 truther like it's a cuss word or something. We're not all republicrats around here.

Oh and...
-9/11 was an inside job/conspiracy
-Al Qaeda is a "branch" of the CIA al qaeda was the term used by the cia meaning "database" Robin Cook article in the Guardian
-"Zionist"

I only typed the part about the database, but that wasn't on your list. I copied and pasted the rest.

 

[american empire]

zionist

 

[fisharmor]

I had an argument on another board about this a while back, during one of the first debates.
Some guy was saying that he didn't like RP's response to whether he believed 9/11 was an inside job. He took exception to the fact that RP didn't say no, he said "there's no evidence of that". That didn't sit well with him.

I pointed out that the answer RP gave was better than "no". It insinuated that RP had actually entertained the idea, thought about it, perhaps even looked into the claims, and determined that there is no evidence to support the claim. At that point it's not a matter of belief, it's a matter of fact.

Telling the 9/11 truthers simply to go away seems to me exactly what the MSM is doing to us. If we expect people to be receptive to ideas that fly in the face of what they're breastfed 24/7, we should extend that courtesy to others, IMO. At least long enough to tell them that there's no evidence for what they're saying.

 

[IPSecure]

STEVE MARTIN: Let's repeat the Non-Conformist Oath. I promise to be different.
AUDIENCE: I promise to be different.
STEVE MARTIN: I promise to be unique.
AUDIENCE: I promise to be unique.
STEVE MARTIN: I promise not to repeat things other people say.
AUDIENCE: I promise ... [Dissolves into nervous laughter.]