They found Arvin!

[tangent4ronpaul]

well, sorta....

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011...entists-claims-evidence-alien-life-meteorite/

We are not alone in the universe -- and alien life forms may have a lot more in common with life on Earth than we had previously thought.

That's the stunning conclusion one NASA scientist has come to, releasing his groundbreaking revelations in a new study in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology.

Dr. Richard B. Hoover, an astrobiologist with NASA’s Marshall Space Flight Center, gave FoxNews.com early access to the out-of-this-world research, published late Friday evening in the March edition of the Journal of Cosmology. In it, Hoover describes the latest findings in his study of an extremely rare class of meteorites, called CI1 carbonaceous chondrites -- only nine such meteorites are known to exist on Earth.

Though it may be hard to swallow, Hoover has become convinced that his findings reveal fossil evidence of bacterial life within such meteorites -- and by extension, suggest we are not alone in the universe.

“I interpret it as indicating that life is more broadly distributed than restricted strictly to the planet earth,” Hoover told FoxNews.com. “This field of study has just barely been touched -- because quite frankly, a great many scientist would say that this is impossible.”

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[pcosmar]

Arvin ?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_the_Martian

 

[oyarde]

Marvin.

 

[Kotin]

its so funny to me that any scientist would say its outright impossible that life exists anywhere besides earth... really?? have you visited the trillions of planets and and star systems out there?? its completely ridiculous to think earth is the only source of life in the universe.. in fact its laughable.

 

[Petar]

I'm still hiding.

 

[erowe1]

its so funny to me that any scientist would say its outright impossible that life exists anywhere besides earth... really?? have you visited the trillions of planets and and star systems out there?? its completely ridiculous to think earth is the only source of life in the universe.. in fact its laughable.

If something is statistically improbable enough, it warrants being called impossible.

Since the likelihood of any given planet being capable of sustaining life is something like 1 in 10^500, even if there were trillions of planets (which sounds high to me, but I can't remember), that would warrant calling it statistically impossible for life to exist on any of them. The fact that even one earth exists at all is a miracle.

 

[Dr.3D]

One has to wonder if those meteorites were not simply blown out of the atmosphere by either a cosmic collision or volcanic explosion and then simply fell back to earth, giving the impression they fell from space.

 

[Petar]

If something is statistically improbable enough, it warrants being called impossible.

Since the likelihood of any given planet being capable of sustaining life is something like 1 in 10^500, even if there were trillions of planets (which sounds high to me, but I can't remember), that would warrant calling it statistically impossible for life to exist on any of them. The fact that even one earth exists at all is a miracle.

Just know that somewhere in the universe, there is a really weird looking alien, who also doubts that you exist.

 

[MelissaWV]

If something is statistically improbable enough, it warrants being called impossible.

Since the likelihood of any given planet being capable of sustaining life is something like 1 in 10^500, even if there were trillions of planets (which sounds high to me, but I can't remember), that would warrant calling it statistically impossible for life to exist on any of them. The fact that even one earth exists at all is a miracle.

Yet the same scientists have found numerous earthlike planets. Many, many, many planets are "almost" capable of maintaining life as we know it. They might be barely too hot, or too cold, or have too much gravity... but who says life has to be "as we know it"?

Now, intelligent life? That's improbable to show up in our neck of the woods. That's more a product of our technology and the chances that we're even remotely interesting enough to a fellow civilization that has far better technology.

 

[ClayTrainor]

its so funny to me that any scientist would say its outright impossible that life exists anywhere besides earth... really?? have you visited the trillions of planets and and star systems out there?? its completely ridiculous to think earth is the only source of life in the universe.. in fact its laughable.

Agreed... And life only needs a small location to flourish, it doesn't need a whole planet. Many of the planets that seem hostile to life, could potentially have pockets of life within them. Like mars for example, if there's water under the surface, there could be a whole sea of life under there we don't know about, even though the surface of the planet seems quite hostile to life. We don't even know about the all the life that exists at the depths of earths oceans.

And the things is, we only know about how life forms on earths conditions. Life on other planets may not form in the same way, or under the same conditions. The likelihood of there being life on other planets somewhere in the universe is extremely high, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Petar]

If something is statistically improbable enough, it warrants being called impossible.

Since the likelihood of any given planet being capable of sustaining life is something like 1 in 10^500, even if there were trillions of planets (which sounds high to me, but I can't remember), that would warrant calling it statistically impossible for life to exist on any of them. The fact that even one earth exists at all is a miracle.

Also, how the fuck do you know what the statistical odds are for a planet to form which is able to sustain Earth-like life?

What is the precise portion of stars in even 1 single galaxy that you were able to closely investigate, in order to come up with even a theoretical frequency for how often such sun/planet combinations might form?

Is it possible that you are simply pulling numbers out of your rear black-hole?

Please enlighten me, you extra special, super unique, galactic chemical snow-flake you.

 

[erowe1]

Also, how the fuck do you know what the statistical odds are for a planet to form which is able to sustain Earth-like life?

What is the precise portion of stars in even 1 single galaxy that you were able to closely investigate, in order to come up with even a theoretical frequency for how often such sun/planet combinations might form?

Is it possible that you are simply pulling numbers out of your rear black-hole?

Please enlighten me, you extra special, super unique, galactic chemical snow-flake you.

From here and here. Don't take it personally. Nobody was going to believe you were a real life Martian anyway.

 

[Petar]

From here and here. Don't take it personally. Nobody was going to believe you were a real life Martian anyway.

I think it is barely interesting that you were able to find a source of myriad pseudo-scientific facts regarding this subject.

Please try to offer some answer to my specific question instead.

Thank you.

 

[Kotin]

Also, how the fuck do you know what the statistical odds are for a planet to form which is able to sustain Earth-like life?

What is the precise portion of stars in even 1 single galaxy that you were able to closely investigate, in order to come up with even a theoretical frequency for how often such sun/planet combinations might form?

Is it possible that you are simply pulling numbers out of your rear black-hole?

Please enlighten me, you extra special, super unique, galactic chemical snow-flake you.

yeah I agree with this..


its hilarious that one could claim such a thing.

 

[erowe1]

I think it is barely interesting that you were able to find a source of myriad pseudo-scientific facts regarding this subject.

Please try to offer some answer to my specific question instead.

Thank you.

I did answer it. You asked if I pulled that number out of my black hole, and my answer is, no, I got it from Hugh Ross. If you don't like it, feel free to explain what's wrong with his analysis. There's not much more I can say about it.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I think it is barely interesting that you were able to find a source of myriad pseudo-scientific facts regarding this subject.

Please try to offer some answer to my specific question instead.

Thank you.

The probability is high that he went to a Catholic school. Science is "different" in those places.

 

[erowe1]

The probability is high that he went to a Catholic school. Science is "different" in those places.

I didn't. I went to public school. Although I wouldn't imagine that the science education I received there was better than it would have been had I gone to a private school (probably not Catholic, though, since I'm not Catholic), or, better yet, been home schooled. But I also have a bachelors in engineering, for what that's worth.

By the way, I find the arguments you all have put in your responses to my comment very compelling so far.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

One has to wonder if those meteorites were not simply blown out of the atmosphere by either a cosmic collision or volcanic explosion and then simply fell back to earth, giving the impression they fell from space.

This is a huge problem with this copyright crap - it really screws up comprehension and spurs false rumors/chain mails because people often don't click through for the full story.

Hoover says he isn’t worried about the process and is open to any other explanations.

“If someone can explain how it is possible to have a biological remain that has no nitrogen, or nitrogen below the detect ability limits that I have, in a time period as short as 150 years, then I would be very interested in hearing that."

"I’ve talked with many scientists about this and no one has been able to explain,” he said.

 

[TheTyke]

The probability is high that he went to a Catholic school. Science is "different" in those places.

Government indoctrination is so much more likely to be true!

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I didn't. I went to public school. Although I wouldn't imagine that the science education I received there was better than it would have been had I gone to a private school (probably not Catholic, though, since I'm not Catholic), or, better yet, been home schooled. But I also have a bachelors in engineering, for what that's worth.

By the way, I find the arguments you all have put in your responses to my comment very compelling so far.

What kind of engineering?

From other posts, you obviously have a strong religious bias, so I am assuming that is effecting your answer here.