There is No such thing as a right to "LIE".

Still that lie is not guaranteed, in a world where lie's are accepted as the norm (the criminal element) then there would be a need to counteract lies but still the truth comes out aka the apprehension of the suspect and the criminal trial. I'm not a lawyer and most people aren't so there is a fine line there between what would accepted as legitimate evidence. I think they might call that entrapment, in which case your lie would not be allowed as evidence and the case would get thrown out of court.


I'm simply making a statement "there is no such thing as right to lie". Kind of like abortion it's wrong, people know it's wrong, but there are situations where it's necessary. There fore that right exist. I don't think there are any situations where lying is absolutely necessary for the average American there for that right dose not exist.

What do you mean exactly when you say 'a lie is not guaranteed'? Are you just saying that a lie isn't guaranteed to be accepted as truth, or that he who commits the lie is not guaranteed to get away with it?

If so, what does this have anything to do with 'rights'? Would you say that I do not have the 'right' to voluntarily contract with someone simply because I am not guaranteed to be able to form a contract to my liking with a particular person? What is your logic, exactly - without making arbitrary claims about 'what is' and 'what isn't'?

Methinks you don't understand the concept of 'rights'. Not trying to be mean or anything, I'm just stating an observation.
 
I'm trying to provoke people into being righteous. If you buy a corvette, you have a fast car, but you are not guaranteed to be able to drive it top speed on the highway. In that context, you have the ability to lie, but you are not guaranteed to be successful with that lie. If you live an honest life and seek first the kingdom of God (which is the ultimate truth), you are guaranteed access to better living. If the government you are under is legitimate, and they don't lie to you, because they realize they don't have that right. You will have much more success. Be a blessing and you'll get a blessing.
 
What if a person agrees to live with you, or go into business, so long as there are no lies?
 
Then if they lied it would be a breach of contract. I think it would be very difficult to penalize someone for lying and most cases government should not intervene.
 
right
   /raɪt/ Show Spelled [rahyt] Show IPA adjective, -er, -est, noun, adverb, verb
–adjective
1.
in accordance with what is good, proper, or just: right conduct.
2.
in conformity with fact, reason, truth, or some standard or principle; correct: the right solution; the right answer.
3.
correct in judgment, opinion, or action.
4.
fitting or appropriate; suitable: to say the right thing at the right time.
5.
most convenient, desirable, or favorable: Omaha is the right location for a meatpacking firm.
6.
of, pertaining to, or located on or near the side of a person or thing that is turned toward the east when the subject is facing north ( opposed to left).
7.
in a satisfactory state; in good order: to put things right.
8.
sound, sane, or normal: to be in one's right mind; She wasn't right in her head when she made the will.
9.
in good health or spirits: I don't feel quite right today.
10.
principal, front, or upper: the right side of cloth.
11.
( often initial capital letter ) of or pertaining to political conservatives or their beliefs.
12.
socially approved, desirable, or influential: to go to the right schools and know the right people.
13.
formed by or with reference to a perpendicular: a right angle.
14.
straight: a right line.
15.
Geometry . having an axis perpendicular to the base: a right cone.
16.
Mathematics . pertaining to an element of a set that has a given property when placed on the right of an element or set of elements of the given set: a right identity.
17.
genuine; authentic: the right owner.
–noun
18.
a just claim or title, whether legal, prescriptive, or moral: You have a right to say what you please.
19.
Sometimes, rights. that which is due to anyone by just claim, legal guarantees, moral principles, etc.: women's rights; Freedom of speech is a right of all Americans.
20.
adherence or obedience to moral and legal principles and authority.
21.
that which is morally, legally, or ethically proper: to know right from wrong.
22.
a moral, ethical, or legal principle considered as an underlying cause of truth, justice, morality, or ethics.
23.
Sometimes, rights. the interest or ownership a person, group, or business has in property: He has a 50-percent right in a silver mine. The author controls the screen rights for the book.
24.
the property itself or its value.
25.
Finance .
a.
the privilege, usually preemptive, that accrues to the owners of the stock of a corporation to subscribe to additional shares of stock or securities convertible into stock at an advantageous price.
b.
Often, rights. the privilege of subscribing to a specified amount of a stock or bond issue, or the document certifying this privilege.
26.
that which is in accord with fact, reason, propriety, the correct way of thinking, etc.
27.
the state or quality or an instance of being correct.
28.
the side that is normally opposite to that where the heart is; the direction toward that side: to turn to the right.
29.
a right-hand turn: Make a right at the top of the hill.
30.
the portion toward the right, as of troops in battle formation: Our right crumbled.
31.
(in a pair) the member that is shaped for, used by, or situated on the right side: Is this shoe a left or a right?
32.
the right hand: Jab with your left and punch with your right.
33.
the Right,
a.
the complex of individuals or organized groups opposing change in a liberal direction and usually advocating maintenance of the established social, political, or economic order, sometimes by authoritarian means.
b.
the position held by these people: The depression led to a movement away from the Right. Compare left1 ( defs. 6a, b ) .
c.
right wing.
34.
( usually initial capital letter ) the part of a legislative assembly, esp. in continental Europe, that is situated on the right side of the presiding officer and that is customarily assigned to members of the legislature who hold more conservative or reactionary views than the rest of the members.
35.
the members of such an assembly who sit on the Right.
36.
Boxing . a blow delivered by the right hand: a right to the jaw.
37.
Baseball . right field.
–adverb
38.
in a straight or direct line; straight; directly: right to the bottom; to come right home.
39.
quite or completely; all the way: My hat was knocked right off.
40.
immediately; promptly: right after dinner.
41.
exactly; precisely: right here.
42.
correctly or accurately: to guess right.
43.
uprightly or righteously: to obey one's conscience and live right.
44.
properly or fittingly: to behave right.
45.
advantageously, favorably, or well: to turn out right.
46.
toward the right hand; on or to the right: to keep right; to turn right.
47.
Informal . very; extremely: a right fine day.
48.
very (used in certain titles): the right reverend.
–verb (used with object)
49.
to put in or restore to an upright position: to right a fallen lamp.
50.
to put in proper order, condition, or relationship: to right a crookedly hung picture.
51.
to bring into conformity with fact; correct: to right one's point of view.
52.
to do justice to; avenge: to be righted in court.
53.
to redress, as a wrong.
–verb (used without object)
54.
to resume an upright or the proper position: After the storm the saplings righted.
—Idioms
55.
by rights, in fairness; justly: You should by rights have been asked your opinion on the matter.
56.
in one's own right, by reason of one's own ability, ownership, etc.; in or of oneself, as independent of others: He is a rich man in his own right.
57.
in the right, having the support of reason or law; correct: It pays to be stubborn when one is in the right.
58.
right and left, on every side; in all directions: throwing his clothes right and left; members resigning right and left.
59.
right away / off, without hesitation; immediately: She made a good impression right off.
60.
right on, Slang . exactly right; precisely.
61.
too right, Australian Slang .
a.
(used as an expression of emphatic agreement.)
b.
okay: “Can we meet tonight?” “Too right.”
62.
to rights, into proper condition or order: to set a room to rights.
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Origin:
bef. 900; (n. and adj.) ME; OE reht, riht; c. D, G recht, ON rēttr, Goth raihts; akin to L rēctus, OIr recht law, Gk orektós upright; (v.) ME righten, OE rihtan, c. OFris riuchta, G richten, ON rētta; (adv.) ME; OE rihte

—Related forms
right·a·ble, adjective
half-right, adjective, noun
un·right·a·ble, adjective
un·right·ed, adjective

—Can be confused:  1. right, righteous, rightful (see usage note at this entry ); 2. right, rite, wright, write.

—Synonyms
1. equitable, fair, honest, lawful. 2. accurate, true. 4. fit, seemly. 5. proper. 10. obverse. 17. rightful. 21. morality, virtue, justice, fairness, integrity, equity, rectitude. 43. rightfully, lawfully, rightly, justly, fairly, equitably. 44. appropriately, suitably.

—Antonyms
1–5, 10, 21. wrong.

—Usage note
47. Right in the sense of “very, extremely” is neither old-fashioned nor dialectal. It is most common in informal speech and writing: It's right cold this morning. The editor knew right well where the story had originated.
 
Of course people have a right to lie. Saying that a doctrine of lies is destined to fail, while I agree with you, is not a statement of rights at all.

If I own myself, I have a right to say what I like. If I have a right to say what I like, then I have a right to lie.

It's those who use such lies in a coercive government who cause war. Without the power to cause war, lies are irrelevant.

What if they obtain those powers through lies? What then?
 
The Key is to Not Bear False Witness

In accordance with Holy Scripture, I think it's more accurate to say we don't have a right to bear false witness against our neighbors (Exodus 20:16; Matthew 19:18). Lying, when deceiving an enemy, is actually honored in the Bible, and two examples come immediately to my mind. The first example is in Joshua 2 where the harlot Rahab hid the two spies of Israel and lied to the King of Jericho when he commanded her to bring them out of her house:

And Joshua the son of Nun sent out of Shittim two men to spy secretly, saying, "Go view the land, even Jericho." And they went, and came into an harlot's house, named Rahab, and lodged there.

And it was told the king of Jericho, saying, "Behold, there came men in hither to night of the children of Israel to search out the country." And the King of Jericho sent unto Rahab, saying, "Bring forth the men that are come to thee, which are entered into thine house, for they be come to search out all the country."

And the woman took the two men, and hid them, and said thus, "There came men unto me, but I wist not whence they were. And it came to pass about the time of shutting of the gate, when it was dark, that the men went out; whither the men went I wot not. Pursue after them quickly, for ye shall overtake them." But she had brought them up to the roof of the house, and hid them with the stalks of flax, which she had laid in order upon the roof. [Joshua 2:1-6 - emphasis mine]

Because of her faithfulness in protecting God's chosen people (through deceiving Israel's enemies), she was praised for her faith (Hebrews 11:31; James 2:25), and her whole household was saved before Israel destroyed Jericho.

The second example is found in 1 Kings 22, where God allowed a lying spirit to speak through the false prophets of the evil king Ahab in order to deceive him to fight against Ramoth-Gilead (which eventually led to his death, as a punishment for his evil works of false worship before Jehovah):

And the LORD said, "Who shall persuade Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-Gilead?" And one said on this manner, and another said on that manner. And there came forth a spirit, and stood before the LORD, and said, "I will persuade him."

And the LORD said unto him, "Wherewith?"

And he said, "I will go forth, and I will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets."

And He said, "Thou shalt persuade him, and prevail also. Go forth, and do so."
[1 Kings 22:20-22; cf. 2 Chronicles 18 - emphasis mine]

So, lying isn't necessarily an evil thing, and it's especially useful when deceiving evil men who seek to destroy God's people and/or work unrighteousness to the hurt of others. The more accurate admonition is that we should not bear false witness against our neighbors to put them through unwarranted judgment and punishment (as in the shedding of innocent blood). Because our rights come from God, we must try to understand their endowment from His word, in both precept and in wisdom.
 
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