The Zimmerman Trial

[Neil Desmond]

I've been trying that with Alex Jones, but to date he is still on the air.

Me too.

 

[Weston White]

I've been trying that with Alex Jones, but to date he is still on the air.

Yuppers, the less you watch him the more popular his shows become; and the more his staff multiplies. Funny how that works, eh?

 

[Kregisen]

I wish the same justice was afforded to this woman in Florida.

It's funny how everyone in this thread is so pissed off at the media and the everyday americans who automatically assume Zimmerman just straight up shot an "innocent black kid" walking for no reason at all, and then comment on this story saying she deserves the same result as Zimmerman without knowing the story.

Just reading the comments on the article, everyone is saying she did not "stand her ground", she walked out to the garage, picked up a gun, and then walked back in the house to shoot the warning shots. I'm not saying she shouldn't be innocent, but why does everyone always assume things.....how about we look into an issue before pointing fingers.....I'm talking to everybody in America, including everyone on this forum who said how "outrageous" this story is without looking into it.

 

[green73]

Piers Morgan had Alex Jones on his show a few months ago.

ahh

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yuppers, the less you watch him the more popular his shows become; and the more his staff multiplies. Funny how that works, eh?

Same is true for Sean Hannity and Bill O'Reilly. Go figure.

 

[Origanalist]

It's funny how everyone in this thread is so pissed off at the media and the everyday americans who automatically assume Zimmerman just straight up shot an "innocent black kid" walking for no reason at all, and then comment on this story saying she deserves the same result as Zimmerman without knowing the story.

Just reading the comments on the article, everyone is saying she did not "stand her ground", she walked out to the garage, picked up a gun, and then walked back in the house to shoot the warning shots. I'm not saying she shouldn't be innocent, but why does everyone always assume things.....how about we look into an issue before pointing fingers.....I'm talking to everybody in America, including everyone on this forum who said how "outrageous" this story is without looking into it.

The media misrepresenting the story on that case is just disgusting. Unfortunately, I'm hardly shocked.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I live in probably the most liberal city in the US - no one's going to riot (not on any serious scale). Stop living in fear.

Day 3 of riots in many major cities...

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Third-night-of-Zimmerman-protests-in-Oakland-4667042.php

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Los Angeles...

People protesting George Zimmerman's acquittal marched along Crenshaw Boulevard on Monday night, stomping on cars, chasing bystanders and storming a Wal-Mart.

Several protesters made their way into the Wal-Mart as guards scrambled to close security gates. A short while later, Los Angeles Police Department officers wearing helmets and carrying batons swarmed the store as others marched through the parking lot.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...art-in-crenshaw-area-20130715,0,2522648.story

 

[phill4paul]

Los Angeles...

The race riots are a no show. More damage has been done over a lost sports game. SMFH. Let this crap go.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The race riots are a no show. More damage has been done over a lost sports game. SMFH. Let this crap go.

I never claimed there would be race riots. The protests in Oakland are largely white leftists.

 

[phill4paul]

I never claimed there would be race riots. The protests in Oakland are largely white leftists.

Well good. Because AuH20, ObiRandKenobi and others want to push this riot bullshit. With much ado about nothing no one, in any significant way, rose to the bait. To the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the MSM.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Well good. Because AuH20, ObiRandKenobi and others want to push this riot bullshit. With much ado about nothing no one, in any significant way, rose to the bait. To the wailing and gnashing of teeth of the MSM.

It's pretty much extensions or offshoots of OWS that are organizing the protests. Black residents of Oakland are generally against the vandalism.

Some organizers included the (Marxist) Party for Socialism and Liberation: hxxp://www.pslweb.org/

 

[AuH20]

I wonder if this will come up in the civil trial. The jewelry is still in possession of the police.

http://thejacksonpress.org/?p=5088

 

[juleswin]

I am having a bitter argument with a friend (this moment) and we are arguing whether or not Travvon went home before coming back out to confront George Z. He asked me to show proof of this and I just realized I haven't seen one yet. Anyone have a link that I can use to convince my friend.

Post here or PM with one so I will know when it arrives without having to pull up this thread. Thanks in advance

 

[brandon]

You're not going to find any proof because there isn't any. There is evidence that suggests he walked to his house and then walked back up the path to confront Zimmerman. Jeantel's testimony sort of suggested this.

 

[Dr.3D]

I am having a bitter argument with a friend (this moment) and we are arguing whether or not Travvon went home before coming back out to confront George Z. He asked me to show proof of this and I just realized I haven't seen one yet. Anyone have a link that I can use to convince my friend.

Post here or PM with one so I will know when it arrives without having to pull up this thread. Thanks in advance

@5:14 in this video Rachel Jeantel says he was behind the home where he was living at the time.

 

[AuH20]

Too much time separated (anywhere from 6-10 mins) Zimmerman's initial SUV encounter with Martin (in which Martin bolted) and their later death struggle. He went somewhere, but for some reason the GPS data from his phone never was released.

When I first started following the Trayvon Martin killing, I thought it would be interesting to use Google maps to see why Trayvon Martin was in the neighborhood where Zimmerman killed him. But I ran into two problems: no close 7-11s, and I could not find out where Brandy Green’s house was. (Green is Martin’s father’s girlfriend; Trayvon Martin was staying at her townhouse while suspended from school.) So I gave up on that. But I did think that such information should be pretty easy for a journalist to figure out with a little bit of work.

Well, finally I see someone has done it—in this post by one Dan Linehan at a site called the Wagist. (I am unfamiliar with both the author and the site.) The article shows a Google map annotated with various locations of interest in this incident: where the killing happened, where Zimmerman’s SUV was, and where Brandy Green’s townhouse is. This is obvious work that the mainstream media has not done.

Now, assuming the info there is correct (again, I cannot verify it beyond that the streets match what anyone can see on Google maps), we see several very interesting facts about the killing:

(a) There are paved walkways in the townhouse development that would make it very easy to escape anyone in a vehicle. The path where Martin ran from Zimmerman (still in his SUV) was one of them. And it explains why Zimmerman got out of his SUV: he could not follow Martin to see where he was going, except on foot.

(b) The path where Martin ran was the first part of one of the shortest routes from the road he was on to Brandy Green’s townhouse. It is definitely the shortest non-vehicle-capable paved route; any other similarly short route would have been down Twin Trees, where Zimmerman was.

(c) When he started running, Martin had walked past Zimmerman, so that he, Martin, was closer to Green’s townhouse than Zimmerman was. At this point Zimmerman was still in his truck, about 450 feet by paved walkway from Brandy Green’s townhouse.

(d) The site of the shooting was about 150 feet from where Martin left the road onto the walkway, and about 300 feet from Brandy Green’s townhouse. Martin could have sprinted “home” after he passed Zimmerman’s truck in 20 seconds.

Zimmerman was on the recorded 311 call for almost two minutes after he reported Martin started to run. (And the fight didn’t happen for a few minutes after that.) In two minutes, a normal person would walk 500 feet; to have moved just 150 feet in that time would be to move at about 1 mph. It is very difficult for any adult to move 1 mph. A slow walk will be 2-3 mph; a faster walk 4 or so (wiki link on walking speeds).

The above facts lead the author, and me, to speculate that Martin must have doubled back. Otherwise, it is difficult to explain how they happened to encounter each other just 150 feet from Zimmerman’s truck, more than two minutes after he reports Martin running.

 

[bolil]

90 pages of conjecture... NICE!

Since when is it aggressive to ask ANYONE a question? The proper salutory conclusion to be drawn: The State cannot protect you, even if it could it wouldn't.

If I ask you what you are doing and you attack me...