The Zimmerman Trial

[TheTexan]

I'm sure if he's found not guilty, all the sexist nonsense will be taken back

It's not nonsense if it's true.

 

[MelissaWV]

It's not nonsense if it's true.

Hence why I said if he's found not guilty, though. If it's a guilty verdict of any sort, or a hung jury, I fully expect the weak-hearted-women-siding-with-an-angelic-victim characterization to stick around perpetually.

 

[green73]

I'd like to hear OJ's opinion.

I'm sure he gets Court TV in prison. No, really, I'm sure he does.

That and hundreds of other channels.

 

[HigherVision]

n/m

 

[green73]

Having 6 women seems like it was really bad idea by the defense. Just on optics, I could see them making a more emotional decision- siding with a kid vs an adult. I would much rather males be on the jury in a self defense case.

It was absolutely hilarious listening to the state characterize Martin as a child.

 

[MelissaWV]

It was absolutely hilarious listening to the state characterize Martin as a child.

Particularly in Florida, a state where "children" are up for the death penalty from time to time.

 

[green73]

Particularly in Florida, a state where "children" are up for the death penalty from time to time.

Ha! yes!

 

[alucard13mm]

So Zimmerman has a high probability of not recieving 2nd degree murder.

I assume manslaughter will result in prison time. Which means Zimmerman is going to be in solitary confinement for the duration of his term... Blacks in prison will kill Zimmerman. Zimmerman is high profile and whoever kills him gets "rep". Itll probably take some time to get an appeal as well.

 

[green73]

So Zimmerman has a high probability of not recieving 2nd degree murder.

I assume manslaughter will result in prison time. Which means Zimmerman is going to be in solitary confinement for the duration of his term... Blacks in prison will kill Zimmerman. Zimmerman is high profile and whoever kills him gets "rep". Itll probably take some time to get an appeal as well.

If I'm not mistaken it's no better for him to get manslaughter, maybe even worse.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

If I'm not mistaken it's no better for him to get manslaughter, maybe even worse.

He will face some time, I doubt he'd do long.

Probably serve a few years at most.

I'm not sure about Florida's laws in particular but there are other manslaughter options besides voluntary. Negligible for example. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a hung jury. Some people don't want to be responsible for the decision of him walking and I really don't think there is enough evidence to convict. Never know though.

 

[green73]

He will face some time, I doubt he'd do long.

Probably serve a few years at most.

I'm not sure about Florida's laws in particular but there are other manslaughter options besides voluntary. Negligible for example. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a hung jury. Some people don't want to be responsible for the decision of him walking and I really don't think there is enough evidence to convict. Never know though.

CNN was saying 25 years for 2nd degree, 30 for manslaughter with a gun.

 

[James Madison]

Yeah... men wouldn't read the 27-page instruction manual

 

[kcchiefs6465]

CNN was saying 25 years for 2nd degree, 30 for manslaughter with a gun.

Wow. I knew Florida was a pretty backwards state but damn.

 

[Ranger29860]

Wow. I knew Florida was a pretty backwards state but damn.

Remember murder and manslaughter convictions in Florida are based on the idea that a conscious decision to kill was made and was not in self defense. So I think straight up shooting someone because you wanted to makes 30 years look like nothing.

 

[NewRightLibertarian]

Here's a great video that sums up the facts regarding the case very well from Stefan Molyneux:

 

[Antischism]

I was going to post earlier that if he isn't found not guilty, I could already hear various people coming in to claim that the verdict was a result of the jury being full of emotional, non-rational, non-penis having humanoids of the lesser sex. Looks like it was already done preemptively.

 

[green73]

Here's a great video that sums up the facts regarding the case very well from Stefan Molyneux:

This is excellent. I really hope the people who are so dedicated to this case give it a listen.

 

[alucard13mm]

If I got punched first, getting my ass kicked and then verbally told that I am going to die.. I would definitely do the same thing. Watching someone on the public street is not illegal. Being a neighborhood watchman and following/watching someone is not illegal. It is not stalking, since stalking is repetitive behavior on an individual.

Good thing Zimmerman killed him.. Otherwise Zimmerman would face a civil lawsuit for the possible thief/drug addict's medical bill and "loss of income". Although, if he never killed him, but wounded him.. this case would probably never made it to national spotlight.

Ah well.

At least it is not about gun grabbing anymore.... right?..

 

[Antischism]

If I got punched first, getting my ass kicked and then verbally told that I am going to die.. I would definitely do the same thing. Watching someone on the public street is not illegal. Being a neighborhood watchman and following/watching someone is not illegal. It is not stalking, since stalking is repetitive behavior on an individual.

Good thing Zimmerman killed him.. Otherwise Zimmerman would face a civil lawsuit for the possible thief/drug addict's medical bill and "loss of income". Although, if he never killed him, but wounded him.. this case would probably never made it to national spotlight.

Ah well.

At least it is not about gun grabbing anymore.... right?..

Zimmerman has been caught fibbing about certain parts of the account due to inconsistencies in his story, so I would take the part about being told he was "going to die" with a grain of salt.

My theory is he probably did fear for his life when he was getting hit, but the minor injuries sustained lead me to believe he overestimated his injuries at the time and later realized he probably made a mistake in shooting Trayvon. Since he made this realization after the fact, he started to bolster his story in order to make a self-defense claim more credible.

 

[brushfire]

verdict is in!