The Zimmerman Trial

A reporter at the courthouse had Tweeted that the judge allowed the sequestered jury leave home for their lunch today... Meanwhile, mass demonstrations are taking place against Zimmerman, including outside of the very courthouse the trial is taking place at. Did the judge permit this as an attempt to sway the decision of the now tanted jury? That action by the judge should be appealable. Hell, might as well just let them all watch whichever cable news channel that is covering the trial while at it judge; for what does it even matter after that inept move?
 
Weston White said:
A reporter at the courthouse had Tweeted that the judge allowed the sequestered jury leave home for their lunch today... Meanwhile, mass demonstrations are taking place against Zimmerman, including outside of the very courthouse the trial is taking place at. Did the judge permit this as an attempt to sway the decision of the now tanted jury? That action by the judge should be appealable. Hell, might as well just let them all watch whichever cable news channel that is covering the trial while at it judge; for what does it even matter after that inept move?
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It was reported the jury ate lunch at the courthouse.
 
Weston White said:
A reporter at the courthouse had Tweeted that the judge allowed the sequestered jury leave home for their lunch today... Meanwhile, mass demonstrations are taking place against Zimmerman, including outside of the very courthouse the trial is taking place at. Did the judge permit this as an attempt to sway the decision of the now tanted jury? That action by the judge should be appealable. Hell, might as well just let them all watch whichever cable news channel that is covering the trial while at it judge; for what does it even matter after that inept move?
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Where are you getting this from? I haven't read anything to suggest the judge allowed the jury to go home for lunch. I also haven't seen "mass demonstrations" outside the courthouse. Here's an image from like half an hour ago outside, not to mention there's rain coming into the area.

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The jury room has its' own bathroom and is windowless with sound proof walls. There are also large fans placed outside the doors to block out noises any further.
 
brushfire said:
Whistle-blower fired

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...ey-fires-information-techonology-director-who

"Truth is treason"
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I think they should have commenced a sting-op on the prosecutor's office prior to the defense filing their motions in court on this matter, while quietly working with the defense privately. After consulting with the defense, White, should of first had Kruidbos goto the office manager or whoever and address this concern very specifically to them, and then again follow up with that individual say that next week to ensure that they had just not forgotten about the matter entirely. Afterward, the defense could wait and see if they receive that related discovery over the course of one week, for example. And if not then they should have filed their motions. I think that would have made the case on this point so much stronger and would have padded any determinable wrong by Kruidbos, while redirecting any wrong back to the prosecution, now with the added issues of conspiracy and corruption.
 
brushfire said:
Well... I guess it really depends. It depends on what the media tells me to think, and how I'm feeling that day. Its hard to justify the killing of a 12 year old back boy, who was just buying some candy, and walking home. Especially when the killer spitefully called him a FKING PUNK! If only guns were never invented, this tragedy would have never happened.
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Do you know how many 12-15 year olds have been found guilty of murder and were tried as adults, including in Florida?

What if that twelve year old was a 5-11 and 160 pound football player with an attitude?

If only Travyon had ran or quickly walked directly home to his father's residence instead of trying to beat down Zimmerman in total darkness by smashing his face in; if only Travyon would have gotten off the phone with his friend to call 911 and report that some creepy guy is stalking him down the street in a car; if only Travyon would have yelled out to Zimmerman that his father lives here and he is over visiting with him for the next few weeks; then perhaps this tragedy would have never happened.
 
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[h=1]Zimmerman jury asks for 'clarificaton' on manslaughter charge[/h].....

I don't want to seem sexists... but it seems the 6 women on the jury is influenced by emotions and threats/riots. Fail.
 
alucard13mm said:
[h=1]Zimmerman jury asks for 'clarificaton' on manslaughter charge[/h].....

I don't want to seem sexists... but it seems the 6 women on the jury is influenced by emotions and threats/riots. Fail.
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Or they need clarification on the manslaughter charge.

Incidentally, this almost 100% guarantees that he won't be convicted of 2nd-degree murder (which there isn't evidence for). If they found him not guilty on that charge, then it's likely that once they clarify the question (and I would bet good money the question revolves around whether claiming self defense can get you out of a manslaughter conviction... which it can) he will be found not guilty there as well.
 
MelissaWV said:
Or they need clarification on the manslaughter charge.

Incidentally, this almost 100% guarantees that he won't be convicted of 2nd-degree murder (which there isn't evidence for). If they found him not guilty on that charge, then it's likely that once they clarify the question (and I would bet good money the question revolves around whether claiming self defense can get you out of a manslaughter conviction... which it can) he will be found not guilty there as well.
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I think they would have decided this by now if that were the case. I think this will be a hung jury. Which in a way is good because then the defense will have all the evidence the prosecution had and will be able to prepare a much better defense the second time.
 
RickyJ said:
I think they would have decided this by now if that were the case. I think this will be a hung jury. Which in a way is good because then the defense will have all the evidence the prosecution had and will be able to prepare a much better defense the second time.
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? Not really. If they are considering manslaughter, then 2nd degree is totally off the table, imo.

Frankly there is no real way this ends poorly for Zimmerman from a legal standpoint.

Not guilty: self-explanatory.
Hung jury: the prosecution would probably not want to go through this again.
Guilty: there are at least a dozen reasons to appeal --- and win --- and that's just from what the media's let filter through.

From a social standpoint, though, he's going to be tailed by this his whole life no matter the outcome, and so is his family.
 
alucard13mm said:
[h=1]Zimmerman jury asks for 'clarificaton' on manslaughter charge[/h].....
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Not good for the Zimster. That this hasn't been decided yet doesn’t bode well for him. But it could simply be protracted because it's six ladies--jibberjabbering.
 
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green73 said:
Not good for the Zimster. That this hasn't been decided yet doesn’t bode well for him. But it could simply be protracted because it's six ladies--jibberjabbering.
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Having 6 women seems like it was really bad idea by the defense. Just on optics, I could see them making a more emotional decision- siding with a kid vs an adult. I would much rather males be on the jury in a self defense case.
 
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