The View video (youtube)

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Abortion at the state level

A couple of points about abortion that the Pro-Choice crowd clings to.

1.) Some states would ban abortion. This means that someone who choose to exercise their individual rights for an abortion would need to travel out of state.

2.) Since abortion would likely be banned in several states, this would put abortion clinics out of business. Abortion would be more expensive.

I personally hold the belief that abortion should be performed on a case by case basis. The decision should be between parents (if a minor), BOTH parents, the doctor, and the priest (should either parent desire). I would consider myself Pro-Choice on this issue in the current paradigm.

I believe the current paradigm on this issue should be the focus of change and Doctor Paul may want to consider arguing his points from a new angle. The States vs the Fed argument in my opinion is complicating matters. While I am in complete agreement with Doctor Paul that abortion should NOT be an issue that the Fed deals with, I am in complete disagreement that abortion is something the State should handle.

The abortion issue raises some serious questions about States vs Federal. This is the old way of looking at things. States like California, Florida, Texas, and New York are like mini-countries themselves. I think that the Federal Government needs to take a serious look at giving more power to and better protecting of local governments.

The question of abortion needs to be decided by City Councils, County Commissions, and similar types of local government bodies. I am not sure what role the Federal and State governments have in protecting local government bodies, but issues like abortion which are clearly individual choices should definitely be protected at some level of government.

Bottom line, the argument of States vs Fed harkens back to the old days of Demo vs Repub, Red vs Blue, Lib vs Repub. Pro-Choice vs Pro-Life. Its part of the old paradigm and Ron Paul would serve us all well if he abandoned that old cadre in favor of a more progressive view on protecting individual rights while honoring life.

I am still voting for him, but I believe this to be his weakest plank and when he wins the Repub nomination or runs as Independent he will need to reinforce his beliefs with a new way of arguing against Roe vs Wade.

Respectfully submitted,

John in FL.

 

[DJ RP]

WTF is wrong with people. I was expecting this to be bad. It was absolutely fine and Ron did an oustanding job in a difficult situation. I'm not a woman but my guess would be if I were pro-choice and I saw this I would come away with a very positive opinion of Ron Paul. His manner is so disarming, he is an experienced politician, very slippery and difficult to trap. Somebody in a different thread said he was not good at debating. I personally think that's one of his biggest strengths.

 

[Arklatex]

When whoopi was talking about the "china problem" I thought she was referring to the tainted imports issue, so when Paul gave his answer i think many women might have been confused. Anyone want to verify?

 

[Ron LOL]

Wow, he got totally ambushed on abortion. Go figure, I guess.

Not terrible, not great.

 

[JeffersonThomas]

I thought it went quite well overall. I have lots of female friends who watch the View. I have mentioned Ron Paul to them before but they don't seem too interested. I think maybe now they'll have some more questions for me.
I wonder if it would have been a good move for him to bring his wife on?

 

[Jobarra]

When whoopi was talking about the "china problem" I thought she was referring to the tainted imports issue, so when Paul gave his answer i think many women might have been confused. Anyone want to verify?

I think that's what Whoopi was going for, but he answered that question AND the unasked question of what China is doing to our economy and what power it has over it. Loved that response. I liked his response from the 12/01/2007 speech even better. "It's ultimately the responsibility of the company that sells you that item as to whether it's safe or not" You better believe the companies will react if a lawsuit can be filed against them.

 

[JMann]

Paul handled himself well but you knew these ladies where only going to be concerned about his pro-life position.

 

[literatim]

I personally hold the belief that abortion should be performed on a case by case basis. The decision should be between parents (if a minor), BOTH parents, the doctor, and the priest (should either parent desire). I would consider myself Pro-Choice on this issue in the current paradigm.

I wonder how many people in Soviet Russia advocated that Christians should be executed on a case-by-case basis instead of the whole sale genocide. You know, with both parents, the doctor and the priest (should either parent desire).

 

[MusoSpuso]

I don't understand what all the whining was about earlier. This was NOT that bad. It was pretty simplistic and empty issue wise because of the time and format but it was a good introduction for people who don't know him.

The "you know you're not going to win" comment of course was out of line but all in all it wasn't that bad.

 

[TheIndependent]

I wonder how many people in Soviet Russia advocated that Christians should be execution on a case-by-case basis instead of the whole sale genocide. You know, with both parents, the doctor and the priest (should either parent desire).

You might want to edit; your sentence makes no sense in its current state, and I'm not sure your analogy works in a 1:1 situation in this case.

 

[Bigboyen]

A very good interview.

The most important thing for a presidential candidate is not his views, but if people feel they can trust him.

Paul did seem trustworthy and treated the ladies with respect even dough they did disagree on the abortion issue. That's important - especially in a setting like this. If you only get the votes from people that agree on everything you stand for you won't win - so the trick is to get people to vote for you because they like you and trust you even when they disagree with you. Most people are not a one issue voter.

 

[JeffersonThomas]

A very good interview.

The most important thing for a presidential candidate is not his views, but if people feel they can trust him.

Paul did seem trustworthy and treated the ladies with respect even dough they did disagree on the abortion issue. That's important - especially in a setting like this. If you only get the votes from people that agree on everything you stand for you won't win - so the trick is to get people to vote for you because they like you and trust you even when they disagree with you. Most people are not a one issue voter.

Good point. I seem to remember this being a big thing that was touted for W Bush when he was first running for Pres. Boy oh boy was that a mistake...

 

[literatim]

You might want to edit; your sentence makes no sense in its current state, and I'm not sure your analogy works in a 1:1 situation in this case.

Abortion is murder. What we are facing today is genocide of the innocent.

 

[Arklatex]

"It's ultimately the responsibility of the company that sells you that item as to whether it's safe or not" You better believe the companies will react if a lawsuit can be filed against them.

Your preaching to the choir here Jobarra. I wish he would have said that on the view.

 

[CAKochenash]

pwnd..

 

[warmth of the sun]

Bad interview?

He explained his abortion stance very well. I wish he had spoken so clearly at the debates about it. His comments on the dollar were great too. Great interview.

 

[autobot]

As a woman, I find the idiocy of these women astonishing.....Ron Paul did great.
THese women don't even seem have knowledge required to graduate high school, so they are difficult to debate with. The china problem?? What was she talking about? The guest host wasn't an idiot, at least. Still, the one thought nothing in history came before Jesus(is she just on there to make Christians look bad? Yikes) and they all said math was too hard. What dummies. Ron Paul came out looking great. Against the war, localized abortion laws, the falling dollar, etc. That one comment about him not winning was so stupid but he answered well.

 

[wfd40]

Personally, I just wish he laid on the "ron paul charm" a little more... he engaged the "twang" when whats her face said he wouldnt win.

I love that voice/tone of his... and on a woman's program, that's what was needed. Bill Clinton is loved for being able to employ such charm... Paul has it too.

It only needs to come out a little bit more

 

[literatim]

Shows like The View are popular because it caters to emotions. All of the discussion points on that type of show are not well thought out, but are highly energizing. The same goes with their guests, the young girl for example. It was an emotional piece.

This went for how they viewed Ron Paul also. You saw them describing him as a father figure and one said she liked him because he was a GYN. These are emotional points that are completely irrelevant to politics, but this is what they see.

Ron Paul clearly came prepared for such an environment He walked out with authority just like the father figure that they described of him would be like. He also showed conviction and adamant protection of the unborn. He had the abortionists on their heels because he hit an emotion. When she said he knew he couldn't win, he sternly disagreed.

All-in-all, it was a good interview.

 

[mconder]

"the states don't deal with murder/violence"

If he did it was just a slip up. Bush says things we stupider than that when he gets excited. Like the one about "the united states never stops trying to devise ways to harm it's own people."