The US Foreign Service looked the other way while my friend was brutalized in Brazil

Our daughter and a friend were victims of an armed home invasion during a benevolence visit to Brazil. Local police were very nice to the young, pretty American girls. We did not ask for any action by the consulate, but it's fortunate something worse didn't happen. The perps were caught. My guess is it didn't go well for them.
 
The police were very nice to me, but they weren't to my friend.

I can't believe you're acting as if self-defense is wrong. You people are insulting. Soldiers signed up and are paid to defend us from foreign powers. We need to use them or we're spending lots of money for nothing.

How is this a stupid reason to start a war? My friend is being tortured. The US Consul needs to start doing their job and stop allowing their host country to do whatever they want and not standing up for the rights of our citizens.

We have to stand for human rights and justice. If we don't take away the sovereignty of nations who abuse their citizens and travelers, we are allowing evil. We need to crush any nation and imprison their ambassadors and their families of ones that doesn't respect human rights. Not doing so would be like letting a murderer go free. They must be punished for supporting an evil nation.

This is why we need to wage war against Saudi Arabia and China too.

Diplomacy and UN resolutions don't solve anything. Only direct action will.

You people are selfish. You care nothing for my friend who was trying to defend me, you care more about your money and whether or not we look good to everyone else.
 
The police were very nice to me, but they weren't to my friend.

I can't believe you're acting as if self-defense is wrong. You people are insulting. Soldiers signed up and are paid to defend us from foreign powers. We need to use them or we're spending lots of money for nothing.

How is this a stupid reason to start a war? My friend is being tortured. The US Consul needs to start doing their job and stop allowing their host country to do whatever they want and not standing up for the rights of our citizens.

We have to stand for human rights and justice. If we don't take away the sovereignty of nations who abuse their citizens and travelers, we are allowing evil. We need to crush any nation and imprison their ambassadors and their families of ones that doesn't respect human rights. Not doing so would be like letting a murderer go free. They must be punished for supporting an evil nation.

This is why we need to wage war against Saudi Arabia and China too.

Diplomacy and UN resolutions don't solve anything. Only direct action will.

You people are selfish. You care nothing for my friend who was trying to defend me, you care more about your money and whether or not we look good to everyone else.

First off who is this we you speak of?

I don't need to wage war on another nations people for what happened in a bar fight, that's insane!

If you don't like the fact that your friend is in prison then get your happy ass down there and get him out.

If you don't have political power or money then you've only got one option that'll actually work and it ain't trying to incite an internet board to wage war on your behalf.
 
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Then you are supporting torture and injustice. You are not an American. Nobody deserves to be beaten to death for defending someone innocent. Waging a war is the only way these barbarians will learn.
 
Then you are supporting torture and injustice. You are not an American. Nobody deserves to be beaten to death for defending someone innocent. Waging a war is the only way these barbarians will learn.

Well, hell! I meant to neg-rep this viciously hypocritical blather, but accidentally plus-repped it instead ... :o:o:o
 
Then you are supporting torture and injustice. You are not an American. Nobody deserves to be beaten to death for defending someone innocent. Waging a war is the only way these barbarians will learn.

You are suggesting torture, violence, and injustice to punish an entire country for the actions of a few- who were punished by their country.
 
Then you are supporting torture and injustice. You are not an American. Nobody deserves to be beaten to death for defending someone innocent. Waging a war is the only way these barbarians will learn.

No sweetheart I'm not buying into your little temper fit...;)

Maybe if you took me to a bar in Brazil, got me lit and shook your money-maker in my face you could convince me to throw a punch or two on your behalf, maybe..

But let me tell you here and now, I give less of a shit about your panty-waste boy friend than you do and it's quite apparent by your lack of real action that you don't care one whit...

Instead of trying to paint me with your silly brush try looking in the mirror, by your own admission you got this dude in trouble (no doubt he was hoping to get laid) and now you're trying to manipulate faceless men (and women) to go to bat on your behalf without even the veiled promise of sex...

If you want someone out of jail you have only three options to pay the bill;
1) Political clout.......(See Matt Collins on this board)
2) Cash money
3) Barter in lieu of cash

Seeing as how you were mooching off your "friend" to even get to Brazil it sounds like the cash money isn't an option for you.......
 
It is not any of those. It is a reprisal. If someone got beaten to death for defending their friends from thugs, that is morally wrong. We spent lots of money to rescue American POWs in Japan and Germany, how is my friend's life any less valuable. Those soldiers lives will be used for a good cause.
 
Then you are supporting torture and injustice. You are not an American. Nobody deserves to be beaten to death for defending someone innocent. Waging a war is the only way these barbarians will learn.

But it's more moral for you to send men and women who have nothing to do with your bar fight to their deaths than for you to do what it takes to rescue your friend?

Why do I suspect that your "friend" and this entire scenario are a complete fabrication?

When will we see your tearful television interview?
 
This is so upsetting to write about, but I must tell you about the corruption in the US Foreign Service. This happened in 2013.

My friend was a Brazilian-ethnic medical student. To protect his privacy, I'm going to call him Alex. We've known each other for several years, and last year he was done with his final clinical clerkships, so he had several weeks of free-time before he started his IM residency. So Alex asked me if I wanted to take a trip to Brazil to go see Carnival. That really excited me, so I jumped at the chance.

Well, we were having a great time partying, and he was getting really drunk. Along with just about everyone else, except me. Well, a few guys started making passes at me, and he decided to defend me. By smashing their heads into the wall. A huge fight started, and I slipped out and got the police (very awkward, since I kept mixing up Spanish and Portuguese words). I gave them me and Alex's US Passports, and they arrested Alex along with several other of the fighters. They returned mine, but kept Alex's, and called the US Consulate to inform them that he was arrested.

So he was in jail now, and I didn't have any money to post his bond, so he was remanded to Polinter jail while charges of battery were being filed.

I knew that Brazilian prisons were bad and the guards are lazy, but I was thinking "he's a tough guy, he can tough this out." How wrong I was. Apparently, he was being kept in the same area as the people he was fighting. So when I came to see him the next morning, he was beaten severely. His face was totally smashed in. Later I was informed he was rushed to a hospital where a craniotomy was done and his face plated back together.

I immediately went to the US Consul, and I told them "You need to fucking do something, he is going to die!" Their response "Ma'am, we sincerely apologize for this terrible ordeal you are going through, but we cannot interfere with another state's justice system. Things will work out, we are doing everything in our power to help."

I told them "You need to get him released so he can be in a proper secure prison, not this rat-infested cesspool. Man up, and start actually trying to help him! Don't you have FAST Marines protecting this site? You can deploy them to extract him so he can be moved to safety!" "Ma'am, if we do anything that could even be construed as a threat to Brazil's sovereignty, we will get expelled and then all bets are off. Please be patient, I know you are extremely frustrated; I would be too."

Eventually he recovered and was sent back to the prison. He was now partially-sighted in both eyes, and is on anti-seizure medication.

After six months, he had a trial, and he was sentenced to two years. During that period, he suffered another assault, and his hands were smashed.

At this point I said "I've had enough. The USN Fourth Fleet is stationed here. Perhaps threatening a naval blockade will convince them to release him." "Ma'am, I truly feel for you. This is a tragedy. But a naval blockade is an act of war, as I am sure you know, and starting a war with Brazil will not help him at all. We cannot break the law, let alone declare war, to rescue him. Unfortunately, it's just not worth it to risk the lives of thousands of Sailors and Marines for one person and effectively force Brazil to sever diplomatic relations and upset the entirety of South America. Once again none of this should have ever happened, but there's nothing we can legally do."

Apparently my friend's severe injuries that were suffered in Brazilian prison were not enough to convince the USFS officers to risk their jobs to ensure his safety. He is permanently disabled, and will never be able to fulfill his dream.

The USFS is lazy and does nothing to prevent evil from being inflicted upon our citizens in foreign countries. Apologies are not solutions! You may, gasp, have to break the law to dispense justice!

If I was in charge of US foreign policy, any country that inflicts this sort of evil upon our travelers will be annexed so true justice can be dispensed, because if they do this to our citizens, they no doubt also do it to their own citizens. We are the leaders of the free world, and we must spread the Bill of Rights, such as the right to clean, safe prisons and speedy trials.

I want to burn the Brazil Embassy down. They need to understand that this cannot be tolerated. Imperial Rome would have annexed them by now.

I miss my friend. He was my hero. He deserved to be arrested and charged with assault, but he didn't deserve to have his body, mind, and future destroyed for protecting me.

The Ferguson rioters deserve this crap. Not my friend.

If there really is an "Alex", I would hope he is mature enough to hold his head high, realize you are with him (and vice versa) and either leave the scene or leave the area. It doesn't sound like the other guys initiated the violence.

What you're telling me is that your alleged boyfriend has security and trust issues, if he thinks you'll leave him for the first knucklehead who makes a pass at you (and if he *does* have legitimate cause to worry on that score, that's even less of a reason to start a fight).
 
Those men and women signed up for the duty of spreading liberty and defending our interests.
 
The police were very nice to me, but they weren't to my friend.

I can't believe you're acting as if self-defense is wrong. You people are insulting. Soldiers signed up and are paid to defend us from foreign powers. We need to use them or we're spending lots of money for nothing.

How is this a stupid reason to start a war? My friend is being tortured. The US Consul needs to start doing their job and stop allowing their host country to do whatever they want and not standing up for the rights of our citizens.

We have to stand for human rights and justice. If we don't take away the sovereignty of nations who abuse their citizens and travelers, we are allowing evil. We need to crush any nation and imprison their ambassadors and their families of ones that doesn't respect human rights. Not doing so would be like letting a murderer go free. They must be punished for supporting an evil nation.

This is why we need to wage war against Saudi Arabia and China too.

Diplomacy and UN resolutions don't solve anything. Only direct action will.

You people are selfish. You care nothing for my friend who was trying to defend me, you care more about your money and whether or not we look good to everyone else.

You aren't proposing self defense. You're proposing aggression; my guess is that if this story is true, you put pressure on your boyfriend to start the fight so that you could be proud about being fought over by several men.

That act of proposed aggression didn't work out in your favor, so you're attempting to instigate another one--this time with mature men and women who know better than to play your games.
 
It is not any of those. It is a reprisal. If someone got beaten to death for defending their friends from thugs, that is morally wrong. We spent lots of money to rescue American POWs in Japan and Germany, how is my friend's life any less valuable. Those soldiers lives will be used for a good cause.

Call out the Army! An American has been wronged! How many wars do you think we should start and how many $billions (or $trillions) and human lives should we spend to enforce this around the globe?

This is coming off as a drama queen.
 
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Those men and women signed up for the duty of spreading liberty and defending our interests.

The interest of the State is not equivalent to the interest of TSLexi.

You are not the United States of America.

How are you coming on that tearful presentation to the media? How about a link to an interview or article which corroborates your version of events?
 
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Those men and women signed up for the duty of spreading liberty and defending our interests.

Silly child......

Soldiers march at the behest of politicians...

Can you buy or barter political favor?

The kind of "soldier" you're looking for is a mercenary and they work for money alone so that leaves out the political clout and barter options...
 
You aren't proposing self defense. You're proposing aggression; my guess is that if this story is true, you put pressure on your boyfriend to start the fight so that you could be proud about being fought over by several men.

That act of proposed aggression didn't work out in your favor, so you're attempting to instigate another one--this time with mature men and women who know better than to play your games.

I didn't pressure him. Stop assuming.
 
Silly child......

Soldiers march at the behest of politicians...

Can you buy or barter political favor?

The kind of "soldier" you're looking for is a mercenary and they work for money alone so that leaves out the political clout and barter options...

We have Brinks, Executive Outcomes, etc.
 
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