The Top Five Special Interest Groups Lobbying to Keep Marijuana Illegal

[azxd]

Not necessarily. There is (would be if it were legalized) the real possibility that growers can make more money if it is made legal. I too thought the exact same thing (hypothetically speaking, of course) ... initially. Then I thought of MANY uses which individuals could use marijuana for, and many free-market areas that could then be explored. "What about the competition" then you may ask? Well, that's what makes real Capitalism work as it should ... isn't it?

Supply and demand ... How much does a tomato cost ?
How much would that tomato cost, if only a select group of people were allowed to produce it ?
How much would it cost if tomatoes were illegal to grwo/import to this country ?

 

[azxd]

i also want to point out marijuana was not made illegal because you could get high. It was made illegal by special interest giant dupont and friends so there would be no free market on its many industrial uses. That is the bottom line . There are many made up reasons by the gov on why they had a war on marijuana but the top reason was raw materials and still is.

It was made illegal due to a few racists who wished to keep both the black and hispanic communities down, while also not laying off a bunch of revenuers as the nation came out of the depression.

 

[dannno]

I only have one thing to disagree with and that is that marijuana can replace everything from Advil to Vicodin. I take narcotics regularly and have compared the effectiveness of the two. For me, the opiates do a better job. This statement is minor in comparison to the harm done everyday that people are denied the choice to make that decision for themselves.

Opiates are good for temporary pain relief, but I wouldn't suggest taking them on a long-term basis.

I know someone who used to be addicted to pain killers from an injury that eventually subsided.. but when they stopped taking the opiates they would have pain all over their entire body unless they took more opiates. Took a long time to get off of them.

Cannabis, on the other hand, is a much better alternative for long-term pain relief, with very few exceptions.

 

[dannno]

I don't think she was arguing that. She was saying that as far as painkillers go, opiates are much more effective than marijuana. And she's right.

Ya, effective at causing severe addiction.

 

[dannno]

Mad Cow? Really?

I have no idea, does somebody claim it helps with mad cow disease? I doubt it cures it, though it wouldn't surprise me. I would be much less surprised to find out that it significantly reduces the symptoms of the disease.

Do you know that YOU have a cannabinoid receptor system in your body? An entire SYSTEM that regulates hormones and all sorts of bodily functions, which SCIENTISTS have NAMED after the cannabis plant because it is the only plant that contains cannabinoids?!

Think about that for a few minutes. A receptor system that is found throughout our entire body that is based on substances found in a single plant that regulates all bodily functions..

Now we found out that ingesting the plant helps to regulate all those bodily functions, and you're surprised that it treats hundreds of conditions?? Why??

 

[dannno]

You do not grow it legally. Not according to te federal government.

So what? Since when do they go after individual small medicinal growers?

The local cops have known I grow for years. They have come by on a 'tip', checked my dr. recomendation, and left without searching the premises never to come back.

 

[dannno]

Thanks for proving that the OP needs at least one more line to cover those who lobby to keep things as they are.

No, I'd rather it be legal at the federal level and free for everyone to grow.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

So what? Since when do they go after individual small medicinal growers?

The local cops have known I grow for years. They have come by on a 'tip', checked my dr. recomendation, and left without searching the premises never to come back.

It's happened before. I read one story where the local cops came to do a checkup on an old couple who grew for themselves and each year they counted the number of plants and then charged them 5 yrs later with growing that number when in reality they had only grown a small number each year. I'll find it in a minute and put the link here.

 

[JebSanderson]

So what? Since when do they go after individual small medicinal growers?

The local cops have known I grow for years. They have come by on a 'tip', checked my dr. recomendation, and left without searching the premises never to come back.

I'm not arguing whether they target small growers or not. I'm just saying, growing marijuana is illegal.

 

[bolil]

Ahaha 5 out of 5! It is good to be validated! The tobacco industry, surprisingly, is not lobbying for decriminalization.

 

[Tudo]

Opiates are good for temporary pain relief, but I wouldn't suggest taking them on a long-term basis.

I know someone who used to be addicted to pain killers from an injury that eventually subsided.. but when they stopped taking the opiates they would have pain all over their entire body unless they took more opiates. Took a long time to get off of them.

Cannabis, on the other hand, is a much better alternative for long-term pain relief, with very few exceptions.

Of course it's not suggested however some people suffer from long term chronic pain and need a strong enough medication in order to at least have some quality of life without laying paralyzed on a couch. Unfortunately cannabis is not strong enough to accomplish the type of pain relief necessary for people in this condition and there are millions and millions of these people. That said one of the major negatives of long term intake of opiates is also long term , or at least while in taking said opiates, which also means long term use of laxatives which creates a whole new internal problem for those millions as well. However it is absolutely possible to limit useage of those opioid s simply by adding medical marijuana into the equation in an effort to reduce the pharmaceuticals.

When suffering with chronic pain there's a spread 1-10 of the severity of the pain. Generally speaking people are not at level 8 or 9 thruout the day. They might start the day in a little pain, level 2-3, but within a couple hours watch it advance to level 5, 6 in which case a lower amount of narcotics will probably suffice for at least a few hours. If at some point medical pot is added it seems to help lengthen some of the effects of the drugs without lengthing the destructive capabilities or adding more pharmaceuticals. It's all an individual thing, how much pain are you in but it's definitely possible for people who suffer at level 7 and 8 to lessen the intake of the opioids by adding pot to the mix and in a significant enough way to then also experience less of the negatives with an ultimate goal of using more pot and less pain pills. And that would be a good thing.

It is criminal for what these legislators do in writing laws that not only force people into taking risks simply to live a life of minimal pain and I repeat minimal pain as the pain is NOT going way no matter what you do, the only thing a free society can do is "allow" that sick person to make every attempt at living as normal a life as possible and pot absolutely does that for millions of us around the globe . I have nothing nice to say about people like mitt romney who would like to see people hurt even more.

 

[puppetmaster]

forgot the CIA........
The Top Five Special Interest Groups Lobbying to Keep Marijuana Illegal

 

[dannno]

Of course it's not suggested however some people suffer from long term chronic pain and need a strong enough medication in order to at least have some quality of life without laying paralyzed on a couch. Unfortunately cannabis is not strong enough to accomplish the type of pain relief necessary for people in this condition and there are millions and millions of these people. That said one of the major negatives of long term intake of opiates is also long term , or at least while in taking said opiates, which also means long term use of laxatives which creates a whole new internal problem for those millions as well. However it is absolutely possible to limit useage of those opioid s simply by adding medical marijuana into the equation in an effort to reduce the pharmaceuticals.

When suffering with chronic pain there's a spread 1-10 of the severity of the pain. Generally speaking people are not at level 8 or 9 thruout the day. They might start the day in a little pain, level 2-3, but within a couple hours watch it advance to level 5, 6 in which case a lower amount of narcotics will probably suffice for at least a few hours. If at some point medical pot is added it seems to help lengthen some of the effects of the drugs without lengthing the destructive capabilities or adding more pharmaceuticals. It's all an individual thing, how much pain are you in but it's definitely possible for people who suffer at level 7 and 8 to lessen the intake of the opioids by adding pot to the mix and in a significant enough way to then also experience less of the negatives with an ultimate goal of using more pot and less pain pills. And that would be a good thing.

It is criminal for what these legislators do in writing laws that not only force people into taking risks simply to live a life of minimal pain and I repeat minimal pain as the pain is NOT going way no matter what you do, the only thing a free society can do is "allow" that sick person to make every attempt at living as normal a life as possible and pot absolutely does that for millions of us around the globe . I have nothing nice to say about people like mitt romney who would like to see people hurt even more.

I believe cannabis is a lot better at treating many (though not all) types of chronic pain much better than you think. I'm not saying EVERYBODY on opiates would be better off and have as high of a quality of life than if they used cannabis, but I believe the VAST MAJORITY of the "millions" you are talking about would do great with cannabis... or at least a combination of opiates and cannabis, which can significantly lower the dose of opiates needed.

 

[The Northbreather]

We cant leave out the military industrial complex when it comes to pot policy. They are very aware of the ability of cannabis to unify people through enlightenment.

The fact is that pot brings people together and makes them less violent and we can't have our soldiers being less aggressive.

It also has an as relieving effect on peoples perception of reality that many people mistake as laziness. It allows people to perceive the falsehoods of society and government which is a danger to many in unjust positions of power.

 

[speciallyblend]

It was made illegal due to a few racists who wished to keep both the black and hispanic communities down, while also not laying off a bunch of revenuers as the nation came out of the depression.

that was only a small part back in 1937 there was only an estimated 20-50,000 marijuana smokers yes it had a lil but the bottom line was raw materials as i will repeat again.

 

[speciallyblend]

"Federal law trumps state law". I hate that as much as everyone else.

who says corrupt politicians and courts? I disagree and will always disagree. Colorado state law trumps federal and that is where istand and will always stand period.

 

[speciallyblend]

Uhm,
Not to argue, but if it was legal to grow, there would be no need for your friends business to exist.

Supply and demand !!!

supply and demand would still demand stores and medical stores period.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Supply and demand ... How much does a tomato cost ?
How much would that tomato cost, if only a select group of people were allowed to produce it ?
How much would it cost if tomatoes were illegal to grwo/import to this country ?

And to think, I never thought I'd see "must spread some rep around" for azxd. I would have repped three of your posts if I could have.

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

And to think, I never thought I'd see "must spread some rep around" for azxd. I would have repped three of your posts if I could have.

I don't understand him at all. He's for the police state to the extreme but for legalization. Weird

 

[azxd]

supply and demand would still demand stores and medical stores period.

Why ?

Eta:
The consumer will get a better price from a larger distributor who can purchase in quantity.

WalMart, Target, K-Mart, and your local grocery story come to mind, along with Walgreens, CVS pharmacy, and a host of convenience stores that already carry tobacco products.