If there is no moral law, then you're just being arbitrary by stipulating what you think morality should be.
Exactly, all of us do this and we compromise on a societal level through elected politicians.
Bingo, we have a winner.
If morality can be stipulated, then God can be arbitrary by stipulating His own morality as the sovereign, all-powerful, all-wise, all-knowing, transcendent Being, such as punishing those sinful people whom He deems as evil by destroying their lands and posterity or bringing plagues upon a nation.
God is a murderous asshole if the Bible is anything to go by.
Threatening to Rape and Kill his own creations young and old, good work!
When you make moral outcries against God, you're assuming there's a moral standard (law) by which God Himself is violating,
He is violating my moral standards.
yet you deny that such a moral law exists.
My moral standards exist.
In so doing, you are being inconsistent, and thus, you refute yourself.
No and no.
Do you dare to judge God for acting upon His own creation which he created for His own purpose?
God is a murderous, violent, sexually predatory evil asshole as portrayed in the Christian Bible.
Any questions?
I showed you previously that without a Lawgiver, there is no basis for judging morality because law necessitates a lawgiver (or establisher).
Incorrect. No need for a universal Lawgiver.
You, once again, are being arbitrary by making morality what you want it to be, but then getting angry at God (Who is infinitely more powerful and wise than you) for doing the same.
God doesn't exist, like the tooth fairy, sorry about that. That's just how I see it.
Yes, God is necessary for us to understand morality because He has given all of mankind a conscience to know right and wrong.
God is necessary to you, not to me. God doesn't exist to me. Maybe you should take that on board, before assuming people give 2c about an imaginary being you have in your mind.
Though we have a knowledge of morality, we still lack the ability to live morally, at least in the way God requires and stipulates, because of our universal sinful natures. As a result, a Savior and Mediator is needed to enable man to live in the fashion which God intended for mankind in the beginning, and without that connection to God in relationship through His Son Jesus, morality is just subjective and conventional. And if it's that, then you have no basis to tell God what He "ought" to be doing because God has His own convention of morality is, just as you have your own.
God is as real as the invisible brick I just threw at you.
No complaint? What was this:
(Emphasis mine)
Just because you don't believe in something, agree with something, or like something doesn't mean it ceases to exist. That is just intellectually childish.
Once again, if you're correct about morality, then morality ceases to exist in the universal, invariant way in which we all assume morality to be. Thus, there is no "evil" or "good," so you need to change your username, TheEvilDetector, because you are just a living contradiction of your own convictions.
Wishful thinking. Evil is what I think is evil. Broadly Evil is something most people agree on.
On the subject of God..
Living in accordance with phantom desires of an imaginary (yet contradictory and violent) super-being is something you can keep all to yourself.
What surprises me is how people wilfully pretend the ugly parts of the Bible do not exist where God makes death threats and rape threats and kills people wholesale.
(Not to mention many many contradictions)
Because he LOVES us, ie. God's LOVE can KILL, but that's OK!
Any rational being who actually managed to believe in this fairy should be living in fear after displays such as that, praying he doesn't get killed for some whimsical reason only
known to the aggressive superbeing. God makes all the rules.
By the way, Bible hasnt been updated in ages, how do you know he likes what is written in the bible?
What if he decided its making him look bad or its out of date (it really should be brought up to 21st century imo)?
What if he suddenly wants the sinners to sin more?
What if he just doesn't care?
What if he has 1000000000 trillion other planets on his schedule to look at?
He might have a sick sense of humour, how would you know anything about God anyway.
How do the religious know, that prayers do not piss God off?
What if he is "sick and tired" of all the whinging?
With so many unanswered questions, we really have no clue, why bother with this charade?
Maybe he is working on 100 other universes and doesnt have time for prayers, have you bothered to ask him? Oh wait I forgot, you cant actually communicate with God.
Its a one way traffic.
You wouldn't want to make God angry, he gets quite murderous when he is upset after all. I would caution you to avoid prayer in case you catch him in a bad mood and he might grant you the reverse of what you want or strike you with some affliction. Come to think of it, that explains all the problems in the world. Maybe, just maybe, God is sending a message, leave me the fuck alone with all your prayers.
Ponder that for a while.
Last point, why the hell would a super being who creates universes stretching billions and bilions of miles care about the tiniest speck imaginable called earth?
In relative terms, earth is far smaller to the rest of the universe, than a grain of sand is to earth and besides that, no doubt there are billions of other planets with life on it.
Religious are quite arrogant to think that their maker gives 2c about them. If earth were to disappear, he would just make 1000000000 more earths with a flick of his fingers.
The whole God idea paradoxically makes people feel secure. Well that's nice I guess.
Maybe, just Maybe what God wanted was for humans to take care of themselves, take responsibility for their lives and stop worshipping him. What kind of a superbeing needs to be
worshipped? What is he? Insecure? Give me a break. How many super-beings have you had a chance to interview? Why would they spend more than a nanosecond thinking about earth?
God may have made earth just for fun, maybe the whole universe is just a science experiment he created because he was bored.
Bottom line is this:
If we just realised we are on our own and started being responsible, and stopped talking about hell, heaven, miracles, god's will, jesus etc etc (add all icons from other religions in here),
maybe we would be better off and safer. Religion is just social and financial crowd control.
Given the above multitude of questions without any answers and given the total lack of any proof about existence of God as far as I can see no wonder atheism is alive and well.
