The Theist Hatred Of Atheists

[Kade]

Great article.

 

[Dieseler]

Don't sweat it Kade.
You guys will be able to openly persecute, rat out and maybe even kill some of us evil and insane Christians soon enough.
The stage is set and the script is already Pre-written for you.
Christians will be the new delicacy on the menu soon, so grab a knife and a fork and dig in!
Hurray for you!! No more God to stand in your way!!
Or will their be???
lols at you I reckon for you will finally have the master you've always served so unknowingly soon enough.
I wish you luck, You're gonna need it.

 

[fireinme]

http://www.persecutionblog.com/

Can you boast as many Atheists killed for their belief?

This is just to point out something you might not have noticed. I do not hold to all the views expressed on this blog but I do not pretend that Christian persecution does not occur.

It is absolutely unchristian to do anything but good to your "enemies." Thus if any in the name of Christ were to persecute anyone they would be unchristian.

 

[theczar1776]

great article.

i am very sick of being treated like a plague-infested rat by theists, religious FREAKING FREEDOM. if i don't want do believe your crap, i am no less American then you you SCUM!!

 

[fireinme]

Love you man, I do not think you are any of those things. For all I know you just might be more American than me. If you posted in response to my post I want to tell you that I am sorry that you have been mistreated by "theists." I hope you know that not all are as as unchristian.

Jesus said you will know Christians not for what they profess but by what they do. this is why Christianity has a bad name. I also would say that it goes the other way that not all who are atheist are intrinsically going to be more evil or less good than the average person.

Matthew 7:16-24 (KJV)16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:

 

[Mini-Me]

Quite frankly, I think the animosity on both sides is ridiculous...far too many people on both sides are arrogant and utterly overconfident that they "know the real truth" to the exclusion of everyone else, and then they proceed to publicly exalt themselves and belittle others for their beliefs. Richard Dawkins is a prick about this, George H.W. Bush is a prick about this (his quote is in the article), and the laws in Tennessee, Arkansas, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Texas forbidding nonreligious people to hold office are just absurd.

When will people finally understand that Atheists and Christians (and plenty of other groups) do not have to be enemies? Both sides are so busy demonizing each other that they totally ignore the people who want to control government and expand its power to control what all of us believe. We're being divided and set against each other for a reason, folks...Christians are led to imagine that Atheists are trying to destroy Christianity, so we have crazies like Huckabee who want to make "Christian values" part of the Constitution! Then, nonreligious people are led to believe that religious fanatics are out to get them, so we have crazies like Elton John who say we should abolish religion! Sadly, people get drawn into the hype and the fear of persecution so much that they start entertaining and supporting the extreme ideas at both crazy ends of the spectrum, so slowly but surely, this "imaginary" battle starts to become real. Everyone needs to take a chill pill, reaffirm freedom of religion, and unite to fight off our real oppressors.

Both believers and nonbelievers have their place, and both must exist in balance so neither side goes way overboard. When we're all of the same belief, we're all able to be easily manipulated and controlled by the same method. Several hundred years ago, corrupt organized religion held tyrannical power over Europe, and they were able to keep people in line because of their uniform "fear of God." If everyone becomes religious, this same tactic will be used once again to control people. Hence, having a healthy number of Atheists and other nonbelievers is a check against a tyrannical government that uses religion to control the people. Similarly, Christians and other theists are also important, because they have a built-in allegiance to a power other than the state. Hence, having a healthy number of Christians and other theists is a check against a tyrannical secular government that desires everyone to have allegiance to it alone.

We need each other, guys!

 

[Publius Freeman]

There is Nothing New Under the Sun...

America's dual foundational pillars remain Civil and Religious Liberty.

If either one is lost, tyranny ensues (like it did in the Old World, before 1776).

The "New" World Order is not new...


Something to think on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKXkZWIIEiU

"Fifty thousand men were sent to do the will of one.
His claim was phrased quite simply, though he never voiced it loud,
I am he, the chosen one.

In his name they could slaughter, for his name they could die.
Though many there were believed in him, still more were sure he lied,
But they'll fight the battle on..."

Genesis "One for the Vine" lyrics
http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric....rics-Genesis/519695C1D432F66E4825696000155637

 

[jon_perez]

Great article.

From the article:

"State laws instill and perpetuate this attitude. Article IX, Sec. 2, of the Tennessee constitution states: “No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.” Arkansas, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Texas have similar laws."

Doesn't Ron Paul talk about giving the States more power?

 

[Mini-Me]

From the article:

"State laws instill and perpetuate this attitude. Article IX, Sec. 2, of the Tennessee constitution states: “No person who denies the being of God, or a future state of rewards and punishments shall hold any office in the civil department of this state.” Arkansas, Maryland, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Texas have similar laws."

Doesn't Ron Paul talk about giving the States more power?

Yup...tyranny can occur at all levels of government, but at least you have somewhere else to run when it isn't centralized. For instance, most states do not have this ridiculous requirement as part of their Constitutions. Also, you have more representation at more local levels of government...in other words, if some people in Tennessee want to amend their Constitution, it would probably be a much easier battle against far less entrenched powers than the one we face in trying to restore the federal government to its Constitutional limits. That said, although it probably wouldn't do much for this particular instance, state-level abuses like this are among the reasons a "real" incorporation doctrine may in fact be a good idea. (If so, we'd have to do it with a new, properly ratified, clear-cut amendment...and we'd also have to find an elegant way to get around the fact that outright incorporation would make state libel and slander laws unconstitutional, among other things )

 

[wildflower]

What is the point of this thread, other than to divide, stir up emotions and rile up animosity?

 

[Mini-Me]

What is the point of this thread, other than to divide, stir up emotions and rile up animosity?

That may have been the OP's intent, but hopefully people might consider my point about how atheists and theists need each other to fight off tyranny

 

[WilliamC]

Theists versus atheists, false dichotomy.

The real problem is collectivists versus individualists.

I'll take all the theists allies I can find just so long as they value individualism more than forcing me into their collective religion.

And from what I've seem there are more than a few atheists who are more than willing to use government to force their views on believers.

Those kind of atheists are simply worshiping a different kind of supreme power as far as I am concerned, and I will work against them.

Why should anyone feel threatened over what an individuals personal beliefs about life, the universe, and everything are?

 

[truelies]

great article.

i am very sick of being treated like a plague-infested rat by theists, religious FREAKING FREEDOM. if i don't want do believe your crap, i am no less American then you you SCUM!!

No one is denying you the freedom to not believe and/or to so shout such from the rooftops........... BUT Believers ALSO have the Freedom to decline to associate with, employ or do business with you if they so choose.

 

[RiderX]

Live and let live, man!
Everyone should just leave everyone else alone. ~~ Peace.

 

[Kade]

Theists versus atheists, false dichotomy.

The real problem is collectivists versus individualists.

I'll take all the theists allies I can find just so long as they value individualism more than forcing me into their collective religion.

And from what I've seem there are more than a few atheists who are more than willing to use government to force their views on believers.

Those kind of atheists are simply worshiping a different kind of supreme power as far as I am concerned, and I will work against them.

Why should anyone feel threatened over what an individuals personal beliefs about life, the universe, and everything are?

I agree with this.. more than you. I started this topic for more dialogue. I am mildly anti-religious, as opposed to simply atheist... the equivalent would be someone who claimed to be anti-socialist, or anti-fascist. I am against dogma.

I believe wholeheartedly that most atheists are tolerant people... just look at the first few posts in this thread... who are the ones with reasonable responses?

I'm from the deep south. There was no tolerance. Simply because I don't believe!? How ridiculous is that... and people are killed... in fact, it's much worse than being killed...

Consider that atheism was the rarest of philosophical stances after the rise of the great monotheisms... history has destroyed the freethinkers, we have so very few... Atheists were not just killed, they were completely and utterly silenced. It is one thing to be a martyr for a religion, it's another to be the end of any voice... we don't hear about atheists in the past, because nothing of them remains. If a person even questioned the churches on policy during this period, they were skinned alive and fed their own testicles and set afire...

I want tolerance, and I want people to understand here that the separation of church and state is of UTMOST importance to many people. It is not a policy against religion, it is a policy of religious freedom for all... I don't understand what the difficulty comprehending that here is... this board is filled with real theocrats.

 

[Pianist4Freedom]

I have found that for any imaginable combination of beliefs and characteristics, even apparently contradictory ones, you can find a human being that has that combination. Thus, I think there are a vast spectrum of human beings who are atheist and who are theist. There are kind, generous and understanding atheists and kind, generous and understanding theists. There are vociferous, vehement, vitriolic atheists and also theists.

I just want everyone to shut up about how awful the other side is and just live side by side, in freedom. As long as we all agree on the absolute morality of respecting each other's lives and rights, I don't think that religious beliefs will ever be a problem--and we'll just continue to try to persuade one another peacefully.

 

[Theocrat]

"Atheism" is the Problem

I don't hate "atheists," but I do hate "atheism." In my opinion, it is the most irrational, dangerous, diabolical, contradictory, and foolish theories that mankind has ever formulated as a philosophy and view of the world. Therefore, I, as a Christian theist, will continue to seek its destruction until it is eradicated from the world as a system of thought and lifestyle.

In passing, I would say that "atheists" hate theists more than theists hate them because "atheists" love sin and hate God, by nature. One can only think of the Christian hate speeches of Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Sam Harris, as international spokesman of "atheism." If you want to witness hatred and aggression as you've never seen in a human being, just read any of their works or listen to their speeches. It will definitely send chills up your spine and make your blood boil. It's just too bad these guys will have to face an angry and righteous God on Judgment Day to give an account of their perpetual hate, aggression, and ridicule towards God's people (unless they turn from their wicked ways and believe in the truth of God's revelation).

Anyway, for me, "atheists" aren't the problem because they are made in the image and likeness of their Creator, though they daily refuse to acknowledge Him as such. It's "atheism" that's the problem, and as I've said before, I will work diligently to bring its demise to the human race as long as the living God blesses me with breath in my body and His Spirit in my soul. Having said that, I try hard to love "atheists" as my neighbors on God's earth, though I fail to do that at times, I admit.

So much for "atheists" trying to attain peace in the world. As long as theists exist, you will never have peace because your "atheism" will be a threat to us. Oh, what will you do?

 

[Kade]

I don't hate "atheists," but I do hate "atheism." In my opinion, it is the most irrational, dangerous, diabolical, contradictory, and foolish theories that mankind has ever formulated as a philosophy and view of the world. Therefore, I, as a Christian theist, will continue to seek its destruction until it is eradicated from the world as a system of thought and lifestyle.

In passing, I would say that "atheists" hate theists more than theists hate them because "atheists" love sin and hate God, by nature. One can only think of the Christian hate speeches of Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins, and Sam Harris, as international spokesman of "atheism." If you want to witness hatred and aggression as you've never seen in a human being, just read any of their works or listen to their speeches. It will definitely send chills up your spine and make your blood boil. It's just too bad these guys will have to face an angry and righteous God on Judgment Day to give an account of their perpetual hate, aggression, and ridicule towards God's people (unless they turn from their wicked ways and believe in the truth of God's revelation).

Anyway, for me, "atheists" aren't the problem because they are made in the image and likeness of their Creator, though they daily refuse to acknowledge Him as such. It's "atheism" that's the problem, and as I've said before, I will work diligently to bring its demise to the human race as long as the living God blesses me with breath in my body and His Spirit in my soul. Having said that, I try hard to love "atheists" as my neighbors on God's earth, though I fail to do that at times, I admit.

So much for "atheists" trying to attain peace in the world. As long as theists exist, you will never have peace because your "atheism" will be a threat to us. Oh, what will you do?

Bump for Batshit.

 

[Theocrat]

Just As I Thought

Bump for Batshit.

Way to be rational, Kade.

 

[integrity]

Agnostics ROCK!