The Taliban is 'hunting down informants' named on Wikileaks

[South Park Fan]

 

[Liberty Star]

who in the taliban appointed zabihullah mujahid as a spokesman? Petraeus? Gates? Ted tuner himself?

lolz

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

I don't know, but wikileaks support harming our troops and afghan informants, as does PFC Manning, and he should be executed.

Too far one way

 

[AmericaFyeah92]

Too far the other way

 

[American Nationalist]

How is giving leaks that could lead to a withdrawal tantamount to treason? I would think the mission of the Taliban is actually to keep us there, along with blowing us up. Also if you believe that we need to withdrawal as well why wouldn't you agree with this? I'm assuming that your thinking this is somehow aiding and giving -- "comfort" (whatever that is: warm blankets and a cozy bedside reading of the leaks to lull themselves).

It is treason because they are aiding and abetting the enemy, putting our informants and soldiers at a heightened level of danger.

The mission of the Taliban is to take over Afghanistan, us staying there makes it harder for them to do so, so our presence is counterintuitive to their goals.

Just because I oppose the war, doesn't mean I support the enemy, or having our troops or those Afghans who aid them harmed. I didn't realize people here supported more Americans dying, that is rooting for the death toll to go up, so we get out of there. That is pretty sick, and sadistic, and I doubt it is a position held by the majority of the people on this board, except by maybe some of the nutjob anarchists.

 

[RM918]

It is treason because they are aiding and abetting the enemy, putting our informants and soldiers at a heightened level of danger.

The mission of the Taliban is to take over Afghanistan, us staying there makes it harder for them to do so, so our presence is counterintuitive to their goals.

Just because I oppose the war, doesn't mean I support the enemy, or having our troops or those Afghans who aid them harmed. I didn't realize people here supported more Americans dying, that is rotting for the death toll to go up, so we get out of there. That is pretty sick, and sadistic, and I doubt it is a position held by the majority of the people on this board, except by maybe some of the nutjob anarchists.

You'd demand someone be executed for trying to shine some light on the shadows surrounding our foreign policy mechanisms, who kill far more innocent people than these documents ever will. Are you any better? Transparency is the only way, throwing out any sort of accountability for the government on the grounds of some barbaric accusation like treason that amounts to little more than daring to spit on our almighty government will just further the suffering for everyone.

 

[charrob]

You'd demand someone be executed for trying to shine some light on the shadows surrounding our foreign policy mechanisms, who kill far more innocent people than these documents ever will. Are you any better? Transparency is the only way, throwing out any sort of accountability for the government on the grounds of some barbaric accusation like treason that amounts to little more than daring to spit on our almighty government will just further the suffering for everyone.

well said.

 

[Dr.3D]

It is treason because they are aiding and abetting the enemy, putting our informants and soldiers at a heightened level of danger.

The mission of the Taliban is to take over Afghanistan, us staying there makes it harder for them to do so, so our presence is counterintuitive to their goals.

Just because I oppose the war, doesn't mean I support the enemy, or having our troops or those Afghans who aid them harmed. I didn't realize people here supported more Americans dying, that is rotting for the death toll to go up, so we get out of there. That is pretty sick, and sadistic, and I doubt it is a position held by the majority of the people on this board, except by maybe some of the nutjob anarchists.

Just don't listen to those people AN, they have no clue as to what they are talking about. They don't know what kind of damage can be caused to our military when troop movements, strategies and behind the scenes planning are divulged to the enemy. We might as well tell the enemy exactly what we are planning next so they can get ready for it or even ambush our troops as they execute their mission.

Some folks don't understand the gravity of the situation when secrets are compromised to the enemy. I know these things, because I was in the Vietnam war and held high security clearances. In my opinion, it would be better if the news media were kept out of war areas so as to diminish the possibility to compromising our military activity.

Giving away sensitive information is tantamount to releasing the cryptographic codes, used in communications and letting the enemy know what we are planning on a day to day basis.

It's fine if people don't approve of the war, but when they help the enemy in that situation, they are doing nothing more than helping the enemy kill our troops and that is tantamount to sabotage.

 

[constituent]

Just don't listen to those people AN, they have no clue as to what they are talking about. They don't know what kind of damage can be caused to our military when troop movements, strategies and behind the scenes planning are divulged to the enemy. We might as well tell the enemy exactly what we are planning next so they can get ready for it or even ambush our troops as they execute their mission.

Remind me again just what the hell it is they're doing there and on what authority.

"Our" troops?

My troops don't blow up 15 innocents for every "bad guy" they capture or kill.
It saddens me to see that yours do.

 

[Dr.3D]

Remind me again just what the hell it is they're doing there and on what authority.

"Our" troops?

My troops don't blow up 15 innocents for every "bad guy" they capture or kill.
It saddens me to see that yours do.

Well, you either live in another country, or don't pay taxes, if you don't see them as our troops. They are there under the authority of those in our government who have the authority to send them there. If you want to place blame, place it where it belongs, with those who sent them there. Sabotage something other than the lives of those who were sent there to do a job they don't really want to do but have little choice in the matter.

Yeah, yeah... I've heard all of the arguments, that they could refuse to do the job, but those arguments are old and I'm not going to address to them anymore. Those arguments are put forth by people who have never been in the situation of having their lives on the line and thus are just the rambling of kids who don't have a clue about the situation.

If you don't like what is happening over there, get those who sent them over there to stop doing so.

 

[silverhandorder]

Maybe instead of bitching government should have made this information available them selves vetted not to reveal the informants.

 

[pcosmar]

Maybe instead of bitching government should have made this information available them selves vetted not to reveal the informants.

Maybe if the government was anything near honest we wouldn't be there at all.

Maybe if
Maybe if,,,

Maybe if we suffered some truly massive defeats (and loss of lives,unfortunately) the people of this country would be outraged enough to demand an end to this madness.

Maybe if,,

 

[constituent]

Well, you either live in another country, or don't pay taxes, if you don't see them as our troops.

When fedgov starts so much as pretending to follow the constitution, then and only then will they be "our troops," and only when their existence functions as a service to a nation fighting a legitimate, DECLARED war.

I don't remember anyone declaring war on Pakistan, do you?

They are there under the authority of those in our government who have the authority to send them there.

No, they are there of their own volition.

That excuse flew in Korea and Viet Nam.

If you want to place blame, place it where it belongs, with those who sent them there.

The blame belongs on cheerleaders like yourself who help to drive public opinion in favor of war and "supporting the troops" no matter what.

Politicians just give the angry mob what they think the angry mob wants. You are the angry mob.

The blame belongs on the man or woman (the mercenary) who signs up to kill innocent people knowing that they will be sent to kill innocent people.

Personal responsibility, the hallmark of conservative philosophy.

Sabotage something other than the lives of those who were sent there to do a job they don't really want to do but have little choice in the matter.

If the duties of your job include killing innocent people for no discernible reason, then it's time for a new job.

They have ALL of the choice in the matter.

If they really didn't want to kill innocent people, they wouldn't.

But it's for the greater good, ya know?

What are 15 innocent people when you get 1 "bad guy," ya know?

Yeah, yeah... I've heard all of the arguments, that they could refuse to do the job, but those arguments are old and I'm not going to address to them anymore.

No older than your tired b.s. excuse.

Those arguments are put forth by people who have never been in the situation of having their lives on the line and thus are just the rambling of kids who don't have a clue about the situation.

You're arguing from ignorance (again).

Watch me feign surprise.

If you don't like what is happening over there, get those who sent them over there to stop doing so.

It starts with you baby. "Rah-rah-rah-sis-boom-bah!"

 

[acptulsa]

Thank you acp! Very well said.

Always a pleasure, and thank you for the compliment.

He's a fox news cheerleader though, so consider his head space.

Would that be 'us vs. them' or 'me vs. the world'?

 

[constituent]

Would that be 'us vs. them' or 'me vs. the world'?

His head space?

More like 'Murica vs. the Evil Doers

 

[amy31416]

The blame belongs on the man or woman who signs up to kill innocent people knowing that they will be sent to kill innocent people.

Personal responsibility, the hallmark of conservative philosophy.

I had a little cognitive dissonance about this when my cousin was sent to Afghanistan, but you're 100% right. I contemplated the military because I had no money for college, but just asked myself once if I could kill another person based on .... what the government told me(?)!

The answer to such a ludicrous question was obviously "no." And that there's not some profound introspection that the average Joe is incapable of (I hope.)

All I'd add is that the supporting politicians/taxpayers/flag-waving cheerleaders/media/many voters/lying assholes who intentionally misinform are also to blame. And that, unfortunately, includes me and most of us here. Pretty much everyone but the homeless, the "hobos" the entirely self-sufficient, children and insane people are also to blame--at least in part.

We keep paying them, they're going to keep doing it. There will never be a critical mass of moral human beings in political positions--I don't think it's possible.

What is possible is that we refuse to play their game, they can't do it without us.

 

[pcosmar]

The Taliban is 'hunting down informants'

I wonder if they are hiring.

just a thought from the unemployed.

 

[constituent]

Pretty much everyone but the homeless, the "hobos" the entirely self-sufficient, children and insane people are also to blame--at least in part.

awww... thanks.

What is possible is that we refuse to play their game, they can't do it without us.

absolutely.

 

[American Nationalist]

You'd demand someone be executed for trying to shine some light on the shadows surrounding our foreign policy mechanisms, who kill far more innocent people than these documents ever will. Are you any better? Transparency is the only way, throwing out any sort of accountability for the government on the grounds of some barbaric accusation like treason that amounts to little more than daring to spit on our almighty government will just further the suffering for everyone.

Yes, I demand someone be killed for harming our troops and our spies, absolutely. And what they showed, other than the informants, wasn't anything new, and won't change policy, it will only hurt troops, and the reason I oppose the wars is because we are driving up the debt and putting our troops who have families in harm's way in unnecessary wars. I am pretty much anti-war, so it would be hypocritical of me to support the other side, otherwise I wouldn't be anti-war, I would be for war against our troops.

 

[American Nationalist]

Maybe it is more personal to me because I have a cousin over there, but now he is at a heightened risk of being harmed because of this scumbag.