The Shocking Truth Behind Amnesty

[Tywysog Cymru]

Europeans were brought to this country and allowed to come here because they had something to offer, the current state of illegals do not. They are just here to mooch off the country that the anglo-saxons created.

Most of the concepts from the constitution came from Europe and Rome.

It all started when they let my people, the Celts and Germans in, and we contaminated the pure Anglo-Saxon blood of America. It all went downhill after that.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

It all started when they let my people, the Celts and Germans in, and we contaminated the pure Anglo-Saxon blood of America. It all went downhill after that.

"Liberty Cabbage"

 

[John F Kennedy III]

It all started when they let my people, the Celts and Germans in, and we contaminated the pure Anglo-Saxon blood of America. It all went downhill after that.

You mean Anglo-Celtic.

 

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I think I watched about two minutes of that amateurish crap. The woman is talking a mile a minute. She does not pause between thoughts. I'm actually a really fast reader, but I did not even care to read any of the graphics and text whizzing by.

Lousy editing and a poorly delivered message are not really shocking in today's Youtube and cable TV world, so no, I did not find it shocking.

 

[RonPaul4Prez2012]

LMAO - it's better to keep your mouth shut and everyone think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it to them.

Israel in an a little place called "Southwest Asia" and since the vast majority of biblical authors arose out of Southwest Asia, then the Bible was, indeed, written by Asians.

Also, it's a well-documented and public fact that much of the US Constitution was inspired by the Iroquois Nation Confederacy

I was referring to modern day asians - you know the people that live in china etc. Yes, jews wrote about half of the bible if you want to consider them to be asian but the other half were romans and they are not from asia.

 

[RonPaul4Prez2012]

And you believe reducing migration will increase jobs? Reducing our population would decrease both supply and demand. This means that the ability of American labor to specialize would be hindered and increase the real costs of goods and services. Decreased demand obviously means that less goods and services would be demanded to begin with.

Read the literature of the economics of immigration before you go any further. I recommend David Card. He is one of the leading authorities on this issue. Obviously do a proper literature review if you have the time and resources.

http://davidcard.berkeley.edu/papers.html

I do repeat my question though, are you a libertarian? Because you've just lost a few more brownie points by implying you have a right to a job. If you can't find work go back to school and learn new skills. You don't need to get a new BA degree or anything like that. There are plenty of skill shortages in LA that could be met by taking a few courses as a technical school. Attacking others, especially those who don't have the ability to defend themselves such as migrants, won't help though. Channel your energy into improving yourself instead.

you can sit there and make arguments from your flyover state pulpit, but I live here in LA and seeing your country turn into a POS tijuana wannabe 3rd world country might open up your country boy eyes a little bit.

And yeah I went to college, so I do expect to get a jobby job you asshole. Thats what college is for.

 

[Michelangelo]

you can sit there and make arguments from your flyover state pulpit, but I live here in LA and seeing your country turn into a POS tijuana wannabe 3rd world country might open up your country boy eyes a little bit.

And yeah I went to college, so I do expect to get a jobby job you asshole. Thats what college is for.

I'm an Angeleno.

USC has been doing some interesting work on the demographics of Los Angeles. You should read it maybe?

But yeah, migration isn't Los Angeles' problem.

 

[Cabal]

How many indians wrote and signed the constitution? ZERO

What a profoundly absurd argument, on all fronts.

 

[MRK]

Go back to Stormfront.

I posted on Stormfront once.

There was a thread where all were chiming in on their unanimous agreement that whites were the clearly superior race in all forms of measurement - intellectually, sexually, and culturally. Then throughout the thread, several people continued to blame the jews for keeping the white man down across the world.

I asked the logical question - if the white men are on all accounts superior, then why are they dominated by jews?

The post was never approved.

 

[MRK]

I was referring to modern day asians - you know the people that live in china etc.

I just realized that I live in china etc.

I might have to put that as my profile location now.

 

[MRK]

Europeans were brought to this country and allowed to come here because they had something to offer, the current state of illegals do not. They are just here to mooch off the country that the anglo-saxons created.

Most of the concepts from the constitution came from Europe and Rome.

I'm pretty sure that you also were not alive to create the country at the time of its cultural founding, nor did you create the hundreds of years of culture of Europe or Rome.

Stop mooching, sanctimonious parasite!

 

[AuH20]

I agree.

Suddenly immigrants are "illegals" when in the past they were simply immigrants.

The multi-cultural stuff really bugs me; America has ALWAYS been multi-cultural; every major city had a "Germantown"; French/Spanish/etc District.

The Irish were hated in the 1800's and considered Catholic scum; all the "real" Americans didn't want them here (you know, all those Americans that migrated earlier?).

As a Cherokee, I find this all rather amusing: WHAT! Different colored "immigrants" taking over our land? Not speaking our language? Breaking our laws?

The answer is simple:
- Open borders
- NO entitlements
- Get rid of minimum wage

The economy has always boomed with an influx of immigrants- but we can't have that now, can we?

That's not necessarily true. At the turn of the 19th century you'd be correct, when examining the significant infrastructure needs of the Western territories. At a certain saturation point, a surplus of unskilled labor is a detriment, especially in this day and age when the auxiliary costs for habitation are offset largely by the taxpayer.

 

[Michelangelo]

It is possible that a certain region becomes 'overpopulated' however market forces encourage the excess population to migrate somewhere that is 'underpopulated'. You are certainly right that this is a possibility. I'd argue that Detroit is one such example of a place in the United States that was overpopulated and its depopulation in recent years has been for the better. Mexico and India are both overpopulated today. In the past most of Europe was overpopulated. Increasing technology has made it so that Europe is now underpopulated and capable of supporting a larger population. Mexico is starting to stabilize economically and I would not be surprised if it went from an net emigrant country to a net immigrant country within our lifetimes.

Most of the United States has not reached this point though. The United States as a whole has historically demanded more labor than it had. This is what allowed its colonial population to grow so rapidly and gave it a comparative advantage when it came towards inviting migrants over. By all measures the United States as a whole still retains the ability to house a larger population. Improving technology, and therefore better ability to make better use of resources available, will increase the ability of the United States to house even more people. Arguably the western states could house infinitely more people if so much of their land wasn't federally owned or if zoning laws were relaxed to allow them to construct more housing.

Is there a limit to how large a population the United States can house without living standards decreasing? Yes. Have we reached said limit? No. Even if we had reached such a limit, would we need the government to deal with it? No.

If the United States ever becomes overpopulated market forces will act in such a manner to deal with it by encouraging voluntary migration to locations that can better accommodate the growing population. I suspect that by the time the United States does reach this limit we will have the technology to colonize space. Indeed, it will make economic sense to begin colonizing space when Earth reaches that limit. That limit hasn't been met though.

Note: I should make it clear here that the limit to population isn't a 'hard' cap. It is a 'soft' cap that changes according to our technology and knowledge of how to use our resources better. This is why Europe has a larger population today than it did a few centuries back, but is now underpopulated. With its past technology/knowledge Europeans were incapable of using their resources to properly house their population. Advances in technology/knowledge however have allowed it to house many more.

 

[Intoxiklown]

Too many people here are not acknowledging the current state of America, regarding the welfare government. Until this is changed, illegal immigration is DEVASTATING the US economy. And before someone writes dissertation trying to explain Austrian economics, save your time. I already know and agree, but I am also looking at the now and real, and not what I wish. And if you need proof, a great example is the Dominican Republic. With it's smaller population, 10 million illegal immigrants from Haiti have destroyed their nation.

 

[erowe1]

I was referring to modern day asians - you know the people that live in china etc. Yes, jews wrote about half of the bible if you want to consider them to be asian but the other half were romans and they are not from asia.

Tucked inside that "etc." in your quote is the entire Arabian peninsula.

And even when much of the Middle East was part of the Roman Empire, it was still part of Asia. Which biblical authors were not Asians? As far as I know, all of the ones we know about were. Quite possibly all of them were. And at most very few were not.

I don't think "Jew" is the right word for these biblical authors. Judean and Israelite would be better terms.

 

[erowe1]

What planet are you living on?

The economic laws of comparative advantage don't apply on this planet?

 

[AuH20]

Too many people here are not acknowledging the current state of America, regarding the welfare government. Until this is changed, illegal immigration is DEVASTATING the US economy. And before someone writes dissertation trying to explain Austrian economics, save your time. I already know and agree, but I am also looking at the now and real, and not what I wish. And if you need proof, a great example is the Dominican Republic. With it's smaller population, 10 million illegal immigrants from Haiti have destroyed their nation.

If you do not have large infrastructure projects waiting in the wings, where mass manual labor is critical, then a surplus of unskilled labor is counterproductive. How many lawncutters can you have? Crop pickers? Housecleaners? There is a diminishing return on these occupations, especially with increasing habitation costs associated with their stay.

 

[erowe1]

At a certain saturation point, a surplus of unskilled labor is a detriment

There are no such things as saturation points and surpluses of unskilled labor. The amount of work out there to be done (i.e. the distance between the world we live in and a perfect one) is infinite.

 

[AuH20]

There are no such things as saturation points and surpluses of unskilled labor. The amount of work out there to be done (i.e. the distance between the world we live in and a perfect one) is infinite.

There are finite homes to be cleaned. Finite lawns to be tended to.

 

[erowe1]

If you do not have large infrastructure projects waiting in the wings, where mass manual labor is critical, then a surplus of unskilled labor is counterproductive. How many lawncutters can you have? Crop pickers? Housecleaners? There is a diminishing return on these occupations, especially with increasing habitation costs associated with their stay.

Once we have all the lawn cutters and house cleaners we all want (of which I still don't have any yet, and neither do most Americans), then we can move onto door openers, shoe tiers, and umbrella carriers. The diminishing return will be reflected in the lower and lower wages offered to each new employee, which will continue up until the incentive to come work for those wages is gone.